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Old 10-27-06, 07:42 AM   #1
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I just want to vent here for a bit... I hope someone understands.

I get honked at, buzzed, cut off, yelled at, cursed at, given the finger, brake checked, revved at ... almost daily when I ride my bicycle. People are just really mean.

What makes people think that they have more of a right to go from point A to point B than I do just because they are in a car ?

I fuxing hate cagers.

I know its wrong, but sometimes i wish some of the mean ones would get in a fiery wreck and burn to death !
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Old 10-27-06, 07:46 AM   #2
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If that is your daily experience than I understand your anger. I only experience the occasion yell or pass to close once or twice a week. It pisses me off but I quickly calm down. I enjoy riding too much.
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Old 10-27-06, 08:05 AM   #3
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I think with the world over populated as it is and people ignorant as they are, I have no moral objections to some of these people dying in flaming wrecks. And if some of them raise their families with the same values they have, I wouldn't mind if it were a fully loaded minivan either.
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From the sounds of it, I would need counseling if I rode in Florida.
It really is that bad there?
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Not only is it bad it gets ugly too.

I had a guy pull into the bike lane because he didn't want me passing him so I banged on the side of his car to let him know I was there. The dude didn't take kindly to his precious SUV getting a knock knock from me. He then yells at me that I shouldn't pass him on the right...Who are you? The bike police? How often do you get passed on the right by other cars A-- Ho-e!
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When I rode in Fla., I just stuck to the bike paths on the major streets. Them drivers are crazy.
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Old 10-27-06, 08:47 AM   #7
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I had a guy pull into the bike lane because he didn't want me passing him so I banged on the side of his car to let him know I was there. The dude didn't take kindly to his precious SUV getting a knock knock from me. He then yells at me that I shouldn't pass him on the right...Who are you? The bike police? How often do you get passed on the right by other cars A-- Ho-e!
I can't think of a single bike lane in my whole city, but I still see the occasional person pull over way right at lights. I try to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume it wasn't intentional but I'm sure it occasionally is. Luckily I only get a blown horn or two a day.

Touching someone's car is a dangerous thing to do. If you're about to get run over, then fine but most times they didn't see you and to be awaken from your coma by someone banging on your door is going to piss off 99.9% of the people out there. Before I do it I'd make sure I wasn't going to get run over for it, and be ready for a fight.
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Old 10-27-06, 08:52 AM   #8
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From the sounds of it, I would need counseling if I rode in Florida.
It really is that bad there?
In a word, yes. I get buzzed on every ride, but I only get yelled at once a week or so.

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I get honked at, buzzed, cut off, yelled at, cursed at, given the finger, brake checked, revved at ... almost daily when I ride my bicycle. People are just really mean.

What makes people think that they have more of a right to go from point A to point B than I do just because they are in a car ?

I fuxing hate cagers
As cyclists, we tend to see the problem as being drivers of cars, but I think it's worse than that. When I get buzzed so that someone can arrive at the next light five seconds sooner, what that person's actions tell me is that they are willing to kill or maim for those few seconds. That says that my life is worth nothing to that person. I'm sure that their attitude doesn't stop and start when they turn on the ignition.
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Not only is it bad it gets ugly too.

I had a guy pull into the bike lane because he didn't want me passing him so I banged on the side of his car to let him know I was there. The dude didn't take kindly to his precious SUV getting a knock knock from me. He then yells at me that I shouldn't pass him on the right...Who are you? The bike police? How often do you get passed on the right by other cars A-- Ho-e!
That's like the taxi the accelerated to pass me and pull up in the bike lane right in front of me. The last words of your post were properly addressed to the moron.
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I used to think Utah had the worst drivers in the country. Now I think they're quite nice. (It must be the rural atmosphere where I live. The smell of manure has a calming effect on the nerves. Or something.) The really nice thing is that I get treated better on my bike than in my car.

Is all of Florida like that, or just urban areas? How can people like that live with themselves? (How can other people live with them?)
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Old 10-27-06, 09:39 AM   #12
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The reason I get on a cager rant. It's not just how cagers treat cyclists. It's how cagers treat one another. Yes, I have a problem controlling my rage, when I get harassed by motorists. Sometimes, I have lost it. Infrequently, tho. Being spit at my h.s. punks is enough to put me over the edge.
My anti cager rant started before cycling. It's that I noticed the mannerisms of motorists towards everyone , including themselves. Driving a car is suicidal.
I sometimes counter the argument of cycling is not safe, due to traffic. I like to think that white line in the road, seperates me from the crazies. Wishful thinking. But, that cycling lane is theortically ours? Normally, Solid lines are not to be crossed?
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Because prejudice is alive and thriving in America, we have just learned to disguise it into other forms and call it other things so we think we have beat the monster down. It still all boils down to I think I am better than you for Yada yada yada.
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I'm lucky to ride in a situation that's not as bad as the OP describes. There are lots of cyclist here and drivers are used to us. I had a minor episode of raised voices last week. There used to be a yield sign where southbound Oxton Av traffic merges into Oriole Parkway traffic, but a week or two ago it was changed to a stop sign. Many drivers haven't noticed yet. I was heading south on Oriole on Monday and an Oxton driver "merged" right in front of me. I yelled that he should have stopped and he rolled down his window and yelled back about how it was a yield sign not a stop sign. I informed him of the change but he drove away without replying.

That's the only intense encounter I can remember in the last couple of years.
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When someone pulls to the right at a light so I can't pass, I go around them on the left.

I doubt this makes 'em any happier.
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I think gridlock , job insecurities, home problems all get mashed onto that gas peddle. So many believe a car represents someone's sexuality. Not me, My little red jetta was selected because it is scuba diver red. It matches my red dive insigna and red bikes. With a four cyclinder. Can't be a very sexy person.
But, I say excessive exceleration on the gas peddle is a symton of something else. Normally, not just being in a hurry.
ah, grounds for an expensive government study. What thought was going through your mind before that policemen behind you gave you that traffic ticket and you gunned yourself through that red light.
I say it's either sex, angst, or rage. I found some of these answers are in the book," Home from Nowhere."
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I'm waiting for the revenge fantasy thread.
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Reading all these threads lately about accidents, close calls, nudges, buzzings, etc., I have concluded that everybody has lost their damn mind.
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Old 10-27-06, 11:07 AM   #19
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Can I vent about a specific thing that just happened?

I got buzzed dangerously closely by a tan Chevy Malibu. I was riding in right lane, and the car straddled the lane to pass me. They saw me. Just decided to buzz me for fun.

This was on a road that does not have a bike lane or WOL, but a bike lane begins a little down the road.

So I catch up to her a next stoplight after about a quarter of a mile (after the bike lane has begun). While in the bike lane, I tap on the window and say, "You almost hit me when you passed. Please lave more room next time." She rolled down her window, and I said, "Please leave more room next time, you were too close." The light turned green then, and she said "There's a bike lane, mmmphlmmphnnn" as she sped off.

I think she only heard the second part. Not realizing that I was talking about being buzzed back there, she thought I was asking her to leave more room on the right when stopping at a stoplight so that Mighty Princess Bicyclecan mosey up to the front of the line. I could kick myself. Need to be more articulate.

I know why it happened.

I was being polite.

I officially give up on trying to formulate speech when I'm hopped up on my own wheezing biker endorphines. From now on, they either get a pass, or they get a u-lock thrown at their window.

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From the sounds of it, I would need counseling if I rode in Florida.
It really is that bad there?
Pretty much.
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Living in redneck Arkansas isn't much better. I frequently get random honks when it's just me and one other car on the road. Crazy stuff.

I also have things like bottles thrown at me on occasion, and backwoods teenage boys reeling on pubescent testosterone like to buzz me on occasion. I've taken to simply hitting their vehicle with whatever is handy (fist, bottle, u-lock, etc.) if it's a serious threat. Otherwise, I call the cops.

I work for a municipality here, so they know me well and usually dispatch someone within minutes.

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When someone pulls to the right at a light so I can't pass, I go around them on the left.

I doubt this makes 'em any happier.
+1. Do it all the time. No skin off my back wich side he want me to pass on, but I AM passing one way or another. Having to go left just means I get to do a cool little dip and sway manuover through the cars as I take the wind out of his passive agressive little move with little more than a second's delay.

Truthfully though, on the longer lines (more than 200 or 300 yards) I have started to split the lanes and not come up the right side at all but though the middle. I strongly believe it is far safer between two lanes of stuck cars than it is over there on the right. I can see more and am not at risk of being run over by someone who has had it with the line and decides to whip into and barrell down the bike lane for a right turn (happens just about every day on my commute). People don't love me going down the middle but most don't do anything about it (including many cops I have passed stuck in that mess) and I simply merge to the right after the traffic moves again. I have only had one guy yell at me for it. He just said "that's pretty dangerous". I simply thanked him for his opinion and kept on going. Cleary, he had not thought the issue over very well and I was not going to change his mind. What did I care about what he thought anyway. By the time he even hit that light, I was probably 2 miles down the road. Sucker!!!
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From the sounds of it, I would need counseling if I rode in Florida.
It really is that bad there?
Depends on what part of Florida you're in. Anything like that is very rare here. Even a "GET OUT OF THE WAY" horn honk is very rare.

Wish I had a way to make all drivers take training from these drivers.
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I can't think of a single bike lane in my whole city, but I still see the occasional person pull over way right at lights.
In some (many?) states it is required by law to move right if planning a right turn, including merging into the BL if safely yeilding to other users of BL.

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I think gridlock , job insecurities, home problems all get mashed onto that gas peddle. So many believe a car represents someone's sexuality. Not me, My little red jetta was selected because it is scuba diver red. It matches my red dive insigna and red bikes. With a four cyclinder. Can't be a very sexy person.
But, I say excessive exceleration on the gas peddle is a symton of something else. Normally, not just being in a hurry.
ah, grounds for an expensive government study. What thought was going through your mind before that policemen behind you gave you that traffic ticket and you gunned yourself through that red light.
I say it's either sex, angst, or rage. I found some of these answers are in the book," Home from Nowhere."
No way! VW's are definitely sexy, and sexy people drive them. Heck, I drive a GTI, and my wife thinks I'm sexy, therefore at least one sexy person drives a VW...
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