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    Would you still ride if....

    Your company provided you with a car/truck and allowed you to drive it to and from work and they paid for the gas. My company just bought me a 2007 Toyota PreRunner to replace my old company truck. It drives nice and has made getting back on the full time bike commute hard. I had to stop for a while due to back problems that I was going to physical therapy for. The back is better and I can ride all I want but have been a lazy sloth instead. Just curious if anyone else parks the company car and rides to work on their bike.
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    Yes, I would still ride.

    I've been contemplating a move to the northwest and one of the jobs I ran across would require me to drive for work. I immediately decided that I'd just leave my car at the office and ride the bike to/from work. If I couldn't ride, the town in question has good public transit - something we in the southeast know nothing about.

    I don't ride to save money though. I guess some do.

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    Let's cut it down to the root issue by eliminating who owns, maintains and pays for the car. Then the root question becomes: 'Do I want to drive to work or ride to work?' If you love to ride, the answer is pretty easy.
    "Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey

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    Have them comp you the cost of the rig and fuel. Tacoma with the 4L V6 would be fun to drive though . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by chipcom
    If you love to ride, the answer is pretty easy.
    People of the commuting forum wanting to ride to work? That's crazy talk

    Maybe the OP should go find a Tacoma forum if he wants some encoragement to drive.

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    I'm an admin of a Ford Focus forum (as in "root", the security guy, programmer, UNIX guru, and keeper of of the Ban Hamster).

    I love my Focus, and my wife's Explorer was fun as hell on the ice last night. My bike on the slush last night and the ice this morning trumped all of that.

    I would still ride. The benefits are many. See my Top Ten things I love about my commute thread. Really though, here are three quick and easily understood points.

    1) It's better for the environment
    2) It's better for your health
    3) It's funner than driving (for most of us)

    Here's a point I'm going to drive home:

    Staying away from the company vehicle reduces the cost of fuel and maintenance TO THE COMPANY.

    The money you're saving the company does, in fact, affect everyone there, even if it's just a few thousand bucks per year. The average cager drives about 12,000 miles per year. A V6 Tacoma's EPA rating is 21/26. In real life, it's probably more like 18/23 or worse. We'll SAY it gets an average of 22 MPG for estimation's sake. That's more than 500 gallons of gasoline per year, and at $2.10 a gallon (believe me, that's going to be considered cheap by 2008) - $1,200 will have just gone into the fuel tank. Most pickup tires aren't much good past 50,000 miles (about 4 years if you go 12k/year), and a whole set of tires will cost at least $600 out the door, installed. Tires: $150 per year. Brakes: about $75-$100 per year. Oil changes quarterly at $30 each: $120 per year. Miscellaneous stuff like wiper blades, chassis lubes, light bulbs, repairs, and none of that stuff included.

    That's $1,600 annually in modestly estimated operating costs. Not counting the insurance and lease that they're paying for anyways.

    Now, I don't feel that it's YOUR DUTY to decrease these operating costs. I do feel that it's a responsible decision.

    Heck, see what their average annual fleet vehicle operating costs are, and see if they'd be willing to cut you a check for half the difference if you come in below the average. How would you like an extra $300 added to next year's bonus? If they turned it into an incentive program for all drivers of fleet vehicles, they would put cash back in employees' pockets while still reducing total cost of owenership and ROI. At the same time, people might be more tempted to drive their own fuel-sipping econoboxes (or, egad, perhaps ride a bike) instead of using the thirstier Tacomas.
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    Sell the truck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slvoid
    Sell the truck.
    Best answer yet!
    "Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey

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    it's not like I ride my bike just because it saves money
    if I wanted to drive, I'd drive my own car
    at ~35mpg, it is probably cheaper to drive a car than to ride my bike
    this is something I have actually looked into
    since my (my wifes actually) car is paid for, there are no car payments
    insurance is only $245.00 per year - that's $20.00 per month or about 65 cents a day
    my commute by car is only 18 miles per day
    gas is $2.25 per gallon
    3 oil changes per year at $20.00 a pop is $60.00 which comes to about 15 cents a day
    and yes, 3 oil changes a year is plenty, my last car was purchased in 1989 and only had 3 oil changes a year and is still running strong for my brother.
    so doing the math, driving my wifes car would cost me about... $1.80 per day to commute to work.
    I work 4 days a week, so if I drive I am spending ~$7.25 per/wk to drive.

    My bicycle commute is 25miles RT because I have to take a different route. Since I've started riding my bike I am eating and drinking alot more. I also have to purchase a new tube every month as well as a new patch kit - this is about $5.00 a month or 25 cents per day. I get lots of flats, don't bother recommending armadillos or contis or yadda yadda, I've tried them, the **** I hit in the road eats any tire alive. I ride 2 miles thru an indsutrial park where everyone there processes steel in one way or another so the roads are pretty darned bad and full of sharp things.
    Anyhow, I also have to replace my tires about once a year which is around $50.00 for a pair of geax streetrunners, so this is about 15 cents per day.
    My food intake has increased well over $2.00 per day on average but I am going to stay low in this example. So now my cost to commute by bicycle is about $10.00 per week.

    I'm not going to get into the whole "repairing a cracked head" or "health benefits" or anything. This is just a daily expenses example.

    my employer could give me a car and I'd still ride. anything else just doesn't make sense to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by slvoid
    Sell the truck.
    It is not my truck to sell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbunk
    It is not my truck to sell.
    Part it out, call it in as stolen.
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    Just noticed you're in Mesa. You don't have to deal with the crappy weather at least. Except for the occasional serial killer.
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    I started commuting because I had to.
    I now have a better job to afford the fuel/upkeep so we got a second car.
    I still ride because I love to ride.
    That's gonna leave a mark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chipcom
    Let's cut it down to the root issue by eliminating who owns, maintains and pays for the car. Then the root question becomes: 'Do I want to drive to work or ride to work?' If you love to ride, the answer is pretty easy.

    You can assume anything you want. I never said I don't love to ride. I quite riding to work due to a back problem and have just been recently cleared to ride distances over a mile so I could commute again. I was just curious if any others happen to be in the same situation as me hence the question, which was really a simple question.

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    I am a consultant and I get comped by the company that ACTUALLY pays me (not the company whose site I'm working at) regardless of situation. If I drive and park downtown, they cover my parking and mileage. If I ride my bike to the bus and take the bus in, they cover my fare.

    I was bike-bus-bike commuting 3 days a week a few months ago. I've been going more and more that way, and I haven't driven my car to work or to the bus stop in 2 weeks now.

    Transportation isn't costing me a dime. I just choose to ride, even in bad weather.
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    I have the same situation, company car and gas paid for. Instead of driving to work every day, I used my company credit card to buy some panniers, lights, a messenger bag.... I figure it's cheaper than a couple months worth of gas that I'm not using. It's a fair swap, and then some. And since I used the company money, I now feel obligated to ride to work on top of wanting to ride, hehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbunk
    You can assume anything you want. I never said I don't love to ride. I quite riding to work due to a back problem and have just been recently cleared to ride distances over a mile so I could commute again. I was just curious if any others happen to be in the same situation as me hence the question, which was really a simple question.
    I'm not sure why you took removing the ownership issues out of the subject so personally, it's just simple root cause analysis. The answer is quite simple, if ya want to ride, ride, if you don't, don't, who owns the vehicle or why you had to quit riding really are not the issue.
    "Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey

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    Quote Originally Posted by chipcom
    Let's cut it down to the root issue by eliminating who owns, maintains and pays for the car. Then the root question becomes: 'Do I want to drive to work or ride to work?' If you love to ride, the answer is pretty easy.
    The more chipcom posts I read the more I like this guy. Right on!
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    I don't ride my bike to avoid driving. I ride my bike to ride my bike.

    So the answer is yes, I would still ride if I was provided a company car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ax0n
    I am a consultant and I get comped by the company that ACTUALLY pays me (not the company whose site I'm working at) regardless of situation. If I drive and park downtown, they cover my parking and mileage. If I ride my bike to the bus and take the bus in, they cover my fare.

    I was bike-bus-bike commuting 3 days a week a few months ago. I've been going more and more that way, and I haven't driven my car to work or to the bus stop in 2 weeks now.

    Transportation isn't costing me a dime. I just choose to ride, even in bad weather.
    Do they pay you for your bike milage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chipcom
    I'm not sure why you took removing the ownership issues out of the subject so personally, it's just simple root cause analysis. The answer is quite simple, if ya want to ride, ride, if you don't, don't, who owns the vehicle or why you had to quit riding really are not the issue.
    Not so much personal as you changed the question. The question I asked was "Just curious if anyone else parks the company car and rides to work on their bike." I forgot the ? but that was the question, not whether I should ride or wanted to ride or do I like driving a car more than riding.

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    My other half was on Maternity Leave for 12 months. We are a one vehicle family. I did not take the car to work once. After a while, as you all know, it's just a part of your day.

    What else do you all do with you bikes.

    I shop,(bike trailer), Library (bike tailer), Liquor store(bike trailer) and recreation, no bike trailer.

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    Yes, but can I use the company car to haul band gear to play shows?

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    I was in this situation several years ago. The company provided me a car (a ford escort) and I was expected to drive it both at work and to home. They did not want it left at the office because having any of the cars left at the office would have raised the insurance on all of the cars. Gas and maintenance, for me to drive home, were not a issue to them in comparison to the insurance.

    I was single at the time and had a car that I occasionally used for going on dates (so it had cobwebs under it). I was able to stop using that car entirely, which saved me money. I then would drive the company car home and immediatly take my bike to go do some shopping for the evening groceries. I would no go to the closest store and generlally put at least 10-15 miles, daily, on the bike this way. The bike became my weekend and arrand vehicle. IN all, it worked out great for me (interesting enough, the mamger bike commuted and had an employee that was not assigned a car drive his company car home each night. The other employee was happy to not have to pay their own commuting costs and the manager was able to ride his bike)

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    I'd still ride because it gives me my daily exercise, but more importantly a bad day can be got out of my system by a thrash home so that i am a better husband and father in the evenings.

    And i actively enjoy cycling whereas am always mildly irritated by driving.

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