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    Access XCL frame...anyone with insight?

    I posted this in General, but after a week have received no replies...so now I'm turning to my commuter brethren.

    I'm looking at the Performance Access XCL frame, and wonder if anyone has any experience with this. I want to build a casual "knockaround" bike for very short runs places, and something that guests can ride when they visit. I typically commute on a "road" bike, so this project has a different aim.

    I wanted the Nashbar MTB frame...but it is now sold out in my size, and they say it is discontinued. Bummer.

    Anyhow, does anyone know anything about the Performance frame? I.e. good, bad, indifferent. Nice ride, bad geometry, etc? Who makes it? Overall quality?

    I queried Performance, to no avail...

    Quote Originally Posted by Performance Bike
    To answer your questions on the Access Frame. Because of manufacturing agreements we are obligated not to disclose who makes the frames for us. The Decals are applied under the clearcoat so it's not an option to remove them.
    Good night...and good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by banzai_f16
    I posted this in General, but after a week have received no replies...so now I'm turning to my commuter brethren.

    I'm looking at the Performance Access XCL frame, and wonder if anyone has any experience with this. I want to build a casual "knockaround" bike for very short runs places, and something that guests can ride when they visit. I typically commute on a "road" bike, so this project has a different aim.

    I wanted the Nashbar MTB frame...but it is now sold out in my size, and they say it is discontinued. Bummer.

    Anyhow, does anyone know anything about the Performance frame? I.e. good, bad, indifferent. Nice ride, bad geometry, etc? Who makes it? Overall quality?

    I queried Performance, to no avail...
    I have one ( although I got mine from Supergo just before they all turned into Performance ). IMHO they are very well made, lightweight typical XC geometry MTBs. They generally cost more than the Nashbar MTB frame but from what I have seen of both frames, the Access has a much nicer fit and finish. The welds look very good, whereas the welds on the Nashbar branded frames look very crude and sloppy. The only complaint I have with my Access MTB is that the paint seems pretty fragile, but I guess it's not that big of an issue with an aluminum frame. I built mine with a rigid fork and disc brakes.

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    They are all made in taiwan anyway.

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    I bought one last year when they were on sale and built it up with XT components, Marzocchi MX Pro 120mm fork and Mavic XM317 wheels to about 25lb. I like it a lot. I haven't noticed any real problems with paint durability although it has picked up a scratch or two but, hell, it's a mountain bike.
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    Proximo,

    What size frame is that? Just curious, as you've got a lot of seatpost showing. Also, is there a brake bridge between the seat stays that I can attach a fender mount to? My current MTB has not such attach points, so I want to swap all the stuff on it to the Access frame.

    I really appreciate everyone's words. Thank you very much, it's been a terrific help so far!
    Good night...and good luck

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    I built one up last summer with a good mix of XT/LX parts that came off an older $1500 bike. The frame is nice and you end up with an INCREDIBLY LIGHT bike if you pick the right parts.

    I had a Selle Italia Trimatica seat on it that was a real pain in the arse. I could feel every imperfection on the pavement even with a 105mm Marzocchi MX Pro ETA up front. I wouldn't hesitate to get one again for a build, but I would definitely use a plush MTB seat to soak up some of the road.

    I sold it to make room for my current commuter... a steel framed Bianchi San Jose. I don't know if it's the Leopard print seat or the compliant steel frame, but the ride on my San Jose is Cadillac plush compared to the Access.
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    I'm 5'11", average build, and it's an 18" frame. I used the fit calculator at zinncycles.com to come up with the frame size and it fits me perfectly. The amount of seatpost showing is partly due to the steeply sloping top tube and partly because in the photo the seat is raised for street riding. On the trail, I drop it quite a bit. The seat collar has been replaced with a quick release since the photo was taken. The saddle is a Brooks B-17.

    Yeah, it does have a brake bridge. It's a little more obvious in the attached photo.


    Quote Originally Posted by banzai_f16
    Proximo,

    What size frame is that? Just curious, as you've got a lot of seatpost showing. Also, is there a brake bridge between the seat stays that I can attach a fender mount to? My current MTB has not such attach points, so I want to swap all the stuff on it to the Access frame.

    I really appreciate everyone's words. Thank you very much, it's been a terrific help so far!
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    Last edited by Proximo; 12-05-06 at 08:24 AM.

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