Long distance commuters, I need some advice.
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Long distance commuters, I need some advice.
I've been commuting to work a few times a week. The distance to work is 42.5 miles and relatively hilly (3 major climbs at least). I'm really trying to get up my strength for a full week of commutes to and from but since it's been cold, it seems that I'm struggling. My strength is zapped the next day - which never happened in the warmer months.
Does this seem right?
Right now I'm riding 3 - 4 times a week which includes a long ride with my local group (60+ miles).
Like I said though, I never felt this way when it was warmer.
How can I prepare for a full week which will be around 425 miles if I can't even do this?
Does this seem right?
Right now I'm riding 3 - 4 times a week which includes a long ride with my local group (60+ miles).
Like I said though, I never felt this way when it was warmer.
How can I prepare for a full week which will be around 425 miles if I can't even do this?
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I can barely hit 200 miles a week this time of year. Cold weather saps the strength right out of me. Everything is more difficult. My hope is that this winter will better prepare me for warmer weather. Anyhow, I have been resting more and eating more.
Unfortunately, I can not think of any advise more than the obvious. Cold weather is simply tiring for me.
Unfortunately, I can not think of any advise more than the obvious. Cold weather is simply tiring for me.
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Originally Posted by DataJunkie
I can barely hit 200 miles a week this time of year. Cold weather saps the strength right out of me. Everything is more difficult. My hope is that this winter will better prepare me for warmer weather. Anyhow, I have been resting more and eating more.
Unfortunately, I can not think of any advise more than the obvious. Cold weather is simply tiring for me.
Unfortunately, I can not think of any advise more than the obvious. Cold weather is simply tiring for me.
Thanks. I just needed confirmation.
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I can't say that I ride long distance, it's only about 6 miles each way. But I can say that it rides much slower when it's cold. I believe the body burns calories to keep warm and that detracts from available energy to power the bike. Also in the winter there are several extra pounds of cold weather gear along for the ride.
Add the studded snows into the mix, and you are dropping 2 or 3 gears to cover the same ground.
I just accept that winter is slow, and when spring gets here I'll be a super hero .. well maybe a hero anyways.
Add the studded snows into the mix, and you are dropping 2 or 3 gears to cover the same ground.
I just accept that winter is slow, and when spring gets here I'll be a super hero .. well maybe a hero anyways.
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There is training and there is over-training. When I have been faced with commutes like yours I try to got part way by public transit or use my truck and ride the rest. Is that an option for you? I keep hearing quality riding is needed for fitness more than plain bulk miles. I might also cut down on that big ride with your friends. Luck.
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Originally Posted by substructure
I've been commuting to work a few times a week. The distance to work is 42.5 miles and relatively hilly (3 major climbs at least). I'm really trying to get up my strength for a full week of commutes to and from but since it's been cold, it seems that I'm struggling. My strength is zapped the next day - which never happened in the warmer months.
Does this seem right?
Right now I'm riding 3 - 4 times a week which includes a long ride with my local group (60+ miles).
Like I said though, I never felt this way when it was warmer.
How can I prepare for a full week which will be around 425 miles if I can't even do this?
Does this seem right?
Right now I'm riding 3 - 4 times a week which includes a long ride with my local group (60+ miles).
Like I said though, I never felt this way when it was warmer.
How can I prepare for a full week which will be around 425 miles if I can't even do this?
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move closer to work. There's something to be said for long distance commuting - but I personally feel anything over 20 miles tops is just an unreasonable number to do every day there and back.
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Originally Posted by substructure
I've been commuting to work a few times a week. The distance to work is 42.5 miles and relatively hilly (3 major climbs at least). I'm really trying to get up my strength for a full week of commutes to and from but since it's been cold, it seems that I'm struggling. My strength is zapped the next day - which never happened in the warmer months.
Does this seem right?
Right now I'm riding 3 - 4 times a week which includes a long ride with my local group (60+ miles).
Like I said though, I never felt this way when it was warmer.
How can I prepare for a full week which will be around 425 miles if I can't even do this?
Does this seem right?
Right now I'm riding 3 - 4 times a week which includes a long ride with my local group (60+ miles).
Like I said though, I never felt this way when it was warmer.
How can I prepare for a full week which will be around 425 miles if I can't even do this?
Plus, I have Xmas with the inlaws coming up. That would slow anyone down!
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I used to have a 45mi each way commute...with similar climbs. The time and effort involved were hard enough in the summer...but it kicked my butt in the winter. So once the weather got crappy I started driving 30 miles to a park-n-ride, then riding the remaining 15. My full commute today is only 25 each way, but with similar climbing involved, not to mention narrow rural roads with drivers doing 50+, so again, now that the weather has turned, I have begun driving part and riding part. Overall quality of life is a balancing act, you gotta do what is best for you, not what you think proves your pecker size to the likes of the rest of us.
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I agree with Chipcom -- try to balance the urge to ride with a sense of self preservation to save some energy and your health for warmer weather. As Mars pointed out Icebike.com has articles supporting several factors involved. I've found that both my morning and evening times are slower when the weather turns cold -- thus discounting the idea that it is the dark that slows me down. I am slower at night, but darkness is just an additional factor.
So in the end no advice except learn to accept the inevitable and ride a reasonable amount without overdoing it.
So in the end no advice except learn to accept the inevitable and ride a reasonable amount without overdoing it.
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Holy cow, you're aiming for 400+ miles per week? That's crazy stuff. My advice? Make sure eating and sleeping. And riding in warmer weather!
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Originally Posted by chipcom
I used to have a 45mi each way commute...with similar climbs. The time and effort involved were hard enough in the summer...but it kicked my butt in the winter. So once the weather got crappy I started driving 30 miles to a park-n-ride, then riding the remaining 15. My full commute today is only 25 each way, but with similar climbing involved, not to mention narrow rural roads with drivers doing 50+, so again, now that the weather has turned, I have begun driving part and riding part. Overall quality of life is a balancing act, you gotta do what is best for you, not what you think proves your pecker size to the likes of the rest of us.
Anyways, I only intend to do the 423 miles once in the spring. The rest of the time I'm going to only commute 2-3 times a week tops. I was mainly concerned because, heck, if I can’t do a couple times a week now there's no way in Hades I'm going to get a full week in later.
But, I like you drive and ride idea. I'm actually thinking of cutting out 15 miles by parking where my mother works.
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Originally Posted by substructure
Well, my pecker is quite small. No matter how much I try and prove otherwise it ain't gonna help.
Originally Posted by substructure
Anyways, I only intend to do the 423 miles once in the spring. The rest of the time I'm going to only commute 2-3 times a week tops. I was mainly concerned because, heck, if I can’t do a couple times a week now there's no way in Hades I'm going to get a full week in later.
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As everyone says the cold makes it a lot more work. Ride slower if you need too when you are running out of steam.
Next fall do some 100 mile rides on the weekends before the cold. Take time off when needed during the week after the 100 mile weekend ride. It takes two days to recover 100% from an all out effort. Riding a century and taking two days off afterwards will make 45 miles a lot easier in a couple of months.
Next fall do some 100 mile rides on the weekends before the cold. Take time off when needed during the week after the 100 mile weekend ride. It takes two days to recover 100% from an all out effort. Riding a century and taking two days off afterwards will make 45 miles a lot easier in a couple of months.
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Heck, I rode into the light rail this morning all of 14 miles with an average of 13.5 miles an hr and was working my arse off. In summer my average was more like 17 mph with panniers. Now I have narrower tires and a rack trunk. The cold weather is kicking my rear. Anyhow, now that my family has joined a rec center I am seriously tempted to start using the light rail each way to reduce my mileage down to 30 miles each day in Jan-March. Then make up the lost exercise at the rec center. Strangely enough I have found that I do not mind working out indoors anymore. Oh the temptation!
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My longest commute has been 34 miles each way which included several small and one big climb. Yes, it was tougher in winter but I think that was as much psychological as physical since it was in darkness both ways.
I think that if you commit to ramping up over time to full time commuting you can do it. The human body can endure and adapt to more than what we give ourselves credit for, it just requires commitment and sensible planning. Remember that you're expecting the performance of an athlete from your body therefore you should plan your nutrition and rest accordingly, eat well, eat often, get as much sleep as your body asks of you, and you will improve. I would suggest that you forget about weekend rides untill you have fully adapted to the milage.
Don't skimp on equipment, the ride is long enough without prolonging it with equipment failure. Think about efficiency when looking at equipment. Critically analyse everything as you go and you'll refine your setup, which in turn will make your commute more enjoyable.
...and ofcourse join us in the "very long/extreme commute club" threads and share the pain, we love to know that we're not alone in our crazy endeavour.
I think that if you commit to ramping up over time to full time commuting you can do it. The human body can endure and adapt to more than what we give ourselves credit for, it just requires commitment and sensible planning. Remember that you're expecting the performance of an athlete from your body therefore you should plan your nutrition and rest accordingly, eat well, eat often, get as much sleep as your body asks of you, and you will improve. I would suggest that you forget about weekend rides untill you have fully adapted to the milage.
Don't skimp on equipment, the ride is long enough without prolonging it with equipment failure. Think about efficiency when looking at equipment. Critically analyse everything as you go and you'll refine your setup, which in turn will make your commute more enjoyable.
...and ofcourse join us in the "very long/extreme commute club" threads and share the pain, we love to know that we're not alone in our crazy endeavour.
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