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    Light & Motion HID on sale at Perofrmance for $280

    Light & Motion HID on sale at Performance for $280

    The light is $349.99 and there is a coupon for 20% off all orders over $75, coupon code 6001742

    The right light, the right price, the perfect time of year.

    You can also get the Lithium Ion ARC for $400.

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    Man, I gotta learn to type, it's a shame we can't edit the title. Maybe a mod will be kind enough to do it for me.

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    Where's Noisebeam???

    Trail Tech HID Lion 10W problem

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    Think ViperZ wants to step up his game? Or attract passing alien aircraft?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jyossarian
    Think ViperZ wants to step up his game? Or attract passing alien aircraft?
    I would like to add a L&M Arc to my toy list one day, but I want the Li-Ion. I'm very happy with my Alias, and I do have a new Mountain Bike to build..... So not right now, but thanks for thinking about me
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    Just curious if there are any bulk buy discounts? Would be nice if we can work out something like a Canada and USA group buy to save on price and shipping.


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    I have the ARC LiIon and love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperZ
    I would like to add a L&M Arc to my toy list one day, but I want the Li-Ion.
    Edison 5
    Price: US $749.00

    HID Metal Halide Lamp
    6.8 Amp-Hr Li-Ion Battery
    Burn Time 10W: 5 Hrs.
    Burn Time 16W: 3 Hrs.
    Charge Time: 4 Hrs.
    Weight: 470g
    Light Output: 900/500 Lumens

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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    I heard a korean company just released a 100lm/W LED.
    Operating at 16W means 1600 lumens from a bank of these, you're out gunned.

    Quote Originally Posted by 2manybikes
    Edison 5
    Price: US $749.00

    HID Metal Halide Lamp
    6.8 Amp-Hr Li-Ion Battery
    Burn Time 10W: 5 Hrs.
    Burn Time 16W: 3 Hrs.
    Charge Time: 4 Hrs.
    Weight: 470g
    Light Output: 900/500 Lumens


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    Quote Originally Posted by slvoid
    I heard a korean company just released a 100lm/W LED.
    Operating at 16W means 1600 lumens from a bank of these, you're out gunned.
    Show me a finished bike light........ HA!

    Probably North Korea, even the bombs don't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2manybikes
    Show me a finished bike light........ HA!
    You win this round...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2manybikes
    Edison 5
    Price: US $749.00
    I draw the line at lights that cost more than my good bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by slvoid
    You win this round...

    Today.

    Maybe not next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slvoid
    I heard a korean company just released a 100lm/W LED.
    Operating at 16W means 1600 lumens from a bank of these, you're out gunned.
    i think you mean these,
    http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english...13/?ST=english

    talk about 4500lumens, now that's nuts

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    No, this. http://flashlightnews.org/story452.shtml

    240 lumens on a single LED chip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2manybikes
    Edison 5
    Price: US $749.00

    HID Metal Halide Lamp
    6.8 Amp-Hr Li-Ion Battery
    Burn Time 10W: 5 Hrs.
    Burn Time 16W: 3 Hrs.
    Charge Time: 4 Hrs.
    Weight: 470g
    Light Output: 900/500 Lumens
    Then there is that too
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    Maybe not next year either:

    As of 2005, the company projected to start shipping a 100 lm/W high-power product around 2010.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperZ
    Then there is that too
    Top 10 reasons to Consider Lupine Edison HID

    1) Fits all your bikes in a second !!

    2) OCP to the max ! No bracket left behind.

    3) smaller

    4) lighter

    5) brighter

    6) best charger. Too much to list here.

    7) better control circuits, Too much to list.

    8) Higher voltage means more starts out of a bulb.

    9) Battery protected against shorts (resetable), overcharge and over discharge.

    10) Factory is across the street from BMW. ......................... maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slvoid
    Where's Noisebeam???

    Trail Tech HID Lion 10W problem
    $18 over my limit.

    al

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    I'll give you the $18!

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    Quote Originally Posted by slvoid
    I'll give you the $18!
    Thanks for the offer. Buy me a drink when I come back east.
    I actually take back what I said in the other thread. I'm gonna use the TrailTech for the rest of the winter/dark season and then see what light prices and new lights are like for next year. When it works and is installed it is fine for the riding I do (suburban with some streetlight or rural with no light, but other riders too)

    Al

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    Maybe it'll just blow the pcb and give out right in the middle of a 40mph descent...

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    Quote Originally Posted by slvoid
    Maybe it'll just blow the pcb and give out right in the middle of a 40mph descent...
    Fortunately I don't do 40mph decents on my fixed gear.
    Otherwise its break and hope.

    But seriously, is there any data (vs. anecdote) that the TT is less reliable than the L&M?

    Al

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    Quote Originally Posted by noisebeam
    Fortunately I don't do 40mph decents on my fixed gear.
    Otherwise its break and hope.

    But seriously, is there any data (vs. anecdote) that the TT is less reliable than the L&M?

    Al
    Did you check out the links I sent you in your thread about the light dieing? Have you seen any reports like that, and so many, from any other light manufacturer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziemas
    Did you check out the links I sent you in your thread about the light dieing? Have you seen any reports like that, and so many, from any other light manufacturer?
    These were mainly about lights that folks pieced together from batteryspace, using some different and some same components or older versions of the packaged version compared to the current batteryspace packaged Eclipse TrailTech 10W HID with Li-ion battery.

    The problem I had (a broken PCB) has nothing to do with the problems discussed in those threads, which required an design change to fix.

    Where are the reports, other than mine, of the 'packaged' system having failures?

    Al
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