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Old 12-04-06, 06:59 PM   #1
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Light & Motion HID on sale at Perofrmance for $280

Light & Motion HID on sale at Performance for $280

The light is $349.99 and there is a coupon for 20% off all orders over $75, coupon code 6001742

The right light, the right price, the perfect time of year.

You can also get the Lithium Ion ARC for $400.
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Old 12-04-06, 07:01 PM   #2
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Man, I gotta learn to type, it's a shame we can't edit the title. Maybe a mod will be kind enough to do it for me.
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Where's Noisebeam???

Trail Tech HID Lion 10W problem
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Old 12-04-06, 07:15 PM   #4
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Think ViperZ wants to step up his game? Or attract passing alien aircraft?
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Old 12-04-06, 07:51 PM   #5
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Think ViperZ wants to step up his game? Or attract passing alien aircraft?
I would like to add a L&M Arc to my toy list one day, but I want the Li-Ion. I'm very happy with my Alias, and I do have a new Mountain Bike to build..... So not right now, but thanks for thinking about me
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Just curious if there are any bulk buy discounts? Would be nice if we can work out something like a Canada and USA group buy to save on price and shipping.


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I have the ARC LiIon and love it.
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Old 12-04-06, 10:22 PM   #8
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I would like to add a L&M Arc to my toy list one day, but I want the Li-Ion.
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I heard a korean company just released a 100lm/W LED.
Operating at 16W means 1600 lumens from a bank of these, you're out gunned.

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Old 12-04-06, 10:48 PM   #10
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I heard a korean company just released a 100lm/W LED.
Operating at 16W means 1600 lumens from a bank of these, you're out gunned.
Show me a finished bike light........ HA!

Probably North Korea, even the bombs don't work.
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You win this round...
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Old 12-04-06, 10:53 PM   #12
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I draw the line at lights that cost more than my good bike!
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Old 12-04-06, 10:54 PM   #13
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Today.

Maybe not next year.
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Old 12-05-06, 01:23 AM   #14
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I heard a korean company just released a 100lm/W LED.
Operating at 16W means 1600 lumens from a bank of these, you're out gunned.
i think you mean these,
http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english...13/?ST=english

talk about 4500lumens, now that's nuts
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No, this. http://flashlightnews.org/story452.shtml

240 lumens on a single LED chip.
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Old 12-05-06, 08:09 AM   #16
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Edison 5
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Then there is that too
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Maybe not next year either:

As of 2005, the company projected to start shipping a 100 lm/W high-power product around 2010.
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Then there is that too
Top 10 reasons to Consider Lupine Edison HID

1) Fits all your bikes in a second !!

2) OCP to the max ! No bracket left behind.

3) smaller

4) lighter

5) brighter

6) best charger. Too much to list here.

7) better control circuits, Too much to list.

8) Higher voltage means more starts out of a bulb.

9) Battery protected against shorts (resetable), overcharge and over discharge.

10) Factory is across the street from BMW. ......................... maybe.
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Old 12-05-06, 10:18 AM   #19
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$18 over my limit.

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I'll give you the $18!
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I'll give you the $18!
Thanks for the offer. Buy me a drink when I come back east.
I actually take back what I said in the other thread. I'm gonna use the TrailTech for the rest of the winter/dark season and then see what light prices and new lights are like for next year. When it works and is installed it is fine for the riding I do (suburban with some streetlight or rural with no light, but other riders too)

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Maybe it'll just blow the pcb and give out right in the middle of a 40mph descent...
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Maybe it'll just blow the pcb and give out right in the middle of a 40mph descent...
Fortunately I don't do 40mph decents on my fixed gear.
Otherwise its break and hope.

But seriously, is there any data (vs. anecdote) that the TT is less reliable than the L&M?

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Fortunately I don't do 40mph decents on my fixed gear.
Otherwise its break and hope.

But seriously, is there any data (vs. anecdote) that the TT is less reliable than the L&M?

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Did you check out the links I sent you in your thread about the light dieing? Have you seen any reports like that, and so many, from any other light manufacturer?
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Did you check out the links I sent you in your thread about the light dieing? Have you seen any reports like that, and so many, from any other light manufacturer?
These were mainly about lights that folks pieced together from batteryspace, using some different and some same components or older versions of the packaged version compared to the current batteryspace packaged Eclipse TrailTech 10W HID with Li-ion battery.

The problem I had (a broken PCB) has nothing to do with the problems discussed in those threads, which required an design change to fix.

Where are the reports, other than mine, of the 'packaged' system having failures?

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