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Old 02-27-07, 10:38 PM   #1
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NYC'ers What Do You Think of My Route

Hey fellow NYC'ers, I'm teaching classes next Fall up at the College of New Rochelle and was playing around with the NYC Bike Transit map in concordance with the sweet mash-up (http://veloroutes.org) one of our members here put together (or at least directed us to). For those experienced with riding in the Bronx and up to Westchester County (and anybody else), what do you think of my route:

http://veloroutes.org/bikemaps/?route=541

I'm particularly concerned with riding in the South Bronx, I've lived in the central Bronx and know it can be a tough place, but I only know stereotypes of the south bronx and know from driving through that the roads are the worst of all the boroughs as far as upkeep goes, so I'm especially looking for input on this leg of the ride.

Oh, and the link for the .pdf map of all NYC's bike routes, real and proposed, is here: www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/pdf/bike/mapfront.pdf
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Old 02-27-07, 11:24 PM   #2
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Did you do this ride? On what? MTB? Roadie??

I've never ridden to queens but I have to New Rochelle. That's not a route I would take... or even think I could take. The crossing into the Hunts Point area is not that easy. It would be an interrupted ride.

I don't know about now but I think even now it would be more difficult. You are going to have to be careful about going through Lafayette ave.

And regarding the Hutchinson... There is no real bike route that I know of along that path. Maybe I'm wrong. If you have already done this, then I guess I'm wrong.

I(personally) would go up Prospect to Boston Rd... right on Fordham rd which takes you back to Boston rd and follow Boston to New Rochelle. That's just what I would do.

It's not about avoiding bad neighborhoods, but about taking a route that is sure and not one that you might not know if you can get through.

I lived in the Bronx 48 years and my USMC reserve unit was in New Rochelle. I know those areas well.

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I haven't ridden it yet and thanks very much for the info. According to NYC.gov's bike map everything I've selected is doable, albeit as you said, with the need to walk certain bridges and crosswalks. I worry about riding on Fordham Rd. and Boston Rd. because I lived off of Fordham Rd. for a while and even though it is less crowded as you head east, people still drive very fast on it and there are no bike lanes. The other issue is what would be the best way then to head north from the tri-borough? Thank you for your service to the country!
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well, its probably not going to be a _fun_ route but it looks like it will get you there.

the only way you're going to know if it works for you is by getting out there on the ground and riding it when you have plenty of time. i can tell by the map that you're likely to make a few modifications.

unfortunately a road map isn't necessarily a good cycling map.
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Old 02-28-07, 06:29 AM   #5
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I didn't know you can take your bike on the hutch...
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Old 02-28-07, 12:47 PM   #6
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it's supposedly on a greenway right next to the hutch according to the nyc.gov bike route map, and not one that is proposed, but existent. But it looked like a path that was beaten all to hell when I did the fly by in google earth of the whole route.
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Here's an all road route following exfreewheeler's suggestions, though I never have to get onto Fordham Rd. (coming from south Bronx, there's no need)

http://veloroutes.org/bikemaps/?route=546
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Hey, where do you live on Steinway? I'm near the corner of 23rd.

I hate riding on the Triborough. Dust, noise, ramps and glass.

There's a nice MUP in Pelham Bay Park next to the golf course. Runs north-south to Westchester along what's that road, maybe Shore Road? If you can use that, nice scenery and pretty safe.

For the rest of your route, I can't comment.
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Thanks so much Recumbomatic. I'm at 28th and 23rd. The Pelham park route did look nice. I've never done the Triborough since I commute to Lincoln Center and ride the Queensborough. Good to know that's what I'll have to look forward to.
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If you're gonna take Boston rd, stay on Southern Blvd straight and continue on crossing Fordham along the Botanical Gardens and take Allerton ave to Boston rd. There's a bike path through the Kazimiroff Parkway on your southbound side. When you come out on Bronx Park E you have the option of staying on Allerton or turning left on BPE and then a right on Arnow to Boston Rd.

From the Triborough, I had not ridden those parts in years so I can't say.

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If you enjoy riding over feces and having homeless people pee on you (because the whole damn path is just about 3ft wide and you can't avoid them), the triboro is definitely the way to go.
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thanks for the triborough info slvoid, it always looked shady from my rides in and around here in astoria.

Exfree, thanks again for more advice on the way to go, that sounds very doable so long as I can make it thru the triboro and s. bronx.
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I've ridden from Astoria up to Shore Road/Pelham/New Rochelle a decent bit.

The Triborough with the north side ped/bike path open again is a bit better than it used to be, but getting off on Randall's is a bit of a pain. The west side of the Bronx span of the Triborough is better than the east side, or maybe that's because I almost missed the fact that there were stairs at the end of it on the east side... that could have hurt.

The Hutch greenway is nice, but you have to enter/exit via some on/off ramps of the Hutch, not a well designed entrance/exit for a MUP when cagers are driving 45+ coming off the highway and don't expect anyone crossing the off ramp. Piss-poor design. However... the greenway is kinda nice at times, you can get a quick high off hammering for a few minutes, but... if only city planners thought of designing them with transportation in mind instead of just recreation. Again, piss-poor design. Too much stop and go, even on the greenways.

Normally when I'm headed up that way I go up via St. Ann's up to the Botanical Gardens and cut across on the Pelham Parkway greenway. Granted, I've never tried to commute this way, so it's all been rec riding, mostly on weekends. It's OK, but it's urban city riding through most of the Bronx (like Queens), a lot of stop and go.

Sadly I haven't found any nice bicycle "highway" between Astoria and... ummm... anywhere.
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LOL, that's very helpful sukram. I'm used to the stop and go between Astoria and Lincoln Center, but for only 6 miles each way I figure no big deal, but 14-15 miles of stop and go would definitely add a lot of time.
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