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    Dinotte 300L & 500L finally for sale!

    WOW! Now the question is "can I get htat in a helmet mount so I can beam Mr. Cager?"


    http://www.dinottelighting.com/500L.html


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    Isn't that what the USE enduro lights have always been for like, 2-3 YEARS?
    http://www.excelsports.com/new.asp?p...ajor=3&minor=6
    Except the USE's are totally self contained so its easier to move around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero_Enigma
    ...Now the question is "can I get htat in a helmet mount so I can beam Mr. Cager?"...
    Umm....yes:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dinotte
    DiNotte 500L And 300L include:
    Light Source
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    Two Li-Ion Batteries
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    Quote Originally Posted by slvoid
    Isn't that what the USE enduro lights have always been for like, 2-3 YEARS?
    http://www.excelsports.com/new.asp?p...ajor=3&minor=6
    Except the USE's are totally self contained so its easier to move around.
    While it's similar in appearance there are some apparent differences too. In addition to the dinotte's external battery pack, it drops the highly controversial o-ring mount that the USE still has and has three bulbs (of some type) instead of the 2 bulbs in the USE.

    Any one know what bulbs are in the 500L and 300L respectfuly?
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    How bright are these things compared to an ARC?

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    Since the specs aren't out yet on the light output figure for the 300L (vs. teh 500L's 40 lumens figure), I would assume this uses a different LED...


    Am I understanding this correctly, that the 500L is the flood, and the 300L is the spot version?

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    $395 for the 300L and $495 for the 500L via the Dinotte website.. I'm pretty happy with my current, already expensive, set-up so I'll wait for someone to hopefully post some comparisons to the old Dinottes and a L&M Arc HID so we can admire the light show.

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    What? No superterrific rubber band mount?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColorChange
    How bright are these things compared to an ARC?

    Not bright.

    If you look around you can find specs for lumens on both. The last time I looked a 10w hid was about 500 lumens and one of the Dinottes was 120 lumens. L&M HID is 13 watts on high.

    New models change the specs. But you get the idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColorChange
    How bright are these things compared to an ARC?
    I believe the HID is 675 lumens on high and 600 on low.

    The 500 has 475 lumens on high

    The dinotte tail light is 140 lumens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2manybikes
    Not bright.

    If you look around you can find specs for lumens on both. The last time I looked a 10w hid was about 500 lumens and one of the Dinottes was 120 lumens. L&M HID is 13 watts on high.

    New models change the specs. But you get the idea.
    Wow, 2MB, you might want to do your homework.

    The 500L is at guaranteed to be 450 lumens. And that, my friend, is bright. I have some beam shots , but the Dinotte wasn't aimed quite right.

    When I redid the beam shots for the review (see sig), I didn't retake the HID.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero_Enigma
    WOW! Now the question is "can I get htat in a helmet mount so I can beam Mr. Cager?"


    http://www.dinottelighting.com/500L.html


    Zero_Enigma
    500L Dinotte

    200 Grams
    220 Grams
    2.5 Hours Full Power
    5 Hours Medium Power
    10 Hours Low Power
    24 Hours Flash Mode
    450 Lumens
    18
    110-240V
    3.5 Hours

    (450 lumens for 2.5 hours, weighs 440 grams.)



    Lupine Edison 5
    HID Metal Halide Lamp
    6.8 Amp-Hr Lithium Ion Battery
    Burn Time 10W: 5 Hrs.
    Burn Time 16W: 3 Hrs.
    Charge Time: 4 Hrs.
    Weight: 470g
    Light Output: 900/500 Lumens

    (900 Lumens for 3 hours. Weighs 470 grams.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmore
    While it's similar in appearance there are some apparent differences too. In addition to the dinotte's external battery pack, it drops the highly controversial o-ring mount that the USE still has and has three bulbs (of some type) instead of the 2 bulbs in the USE.
    USE doesn't use o-ring mounts. Lupine does. NiteRider does. DiNotte does on the smaller lights.


    Quote Originally Posted by dalmore
    Any one know what bulbs are in the 500L and 300L respectfuly?
    I do not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DScott
    Am I understanding this correctly, that the 500L is the flood, and the 300L is the spot version?
    That's my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acidinmylegs
    Wow, 2MB, you might want to do your homework.
    That's what I get for being lazy today. Serves me right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2manybikes
    That's what I get for being lazy today. Serves me right.
    no problem, that's what I'm here for... to keep people honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2manybikes
    Lupine Edison 5
    (900 Lumens for 3 hours. Weighs 470 grams.)
    I'm still waiting anxiously to get my hands on the new Wilma. 830 lumens, 3 hours and can be dimmed. And has a flashing mode

    Edit: You do understand that the HID's days are numbered, right?

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    But you can purchase 2 - 500L's for the same price as the edison 5..

    I am sure dinotte will be tight lipped about what led they are using.. Most likely they are overdriving a Cree or Seoul P4 LED.. 500 Lumens in pretty bright for most people.. I'm waiting for someone to use the newer 24w HID bulbs which will yield 1300 lumens..

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    Quote Originally Posted by acidinmylegs
    USE doesn't use o-ring mounts. Lupine does. NiteRider does. DiNotte does on the smaller lights.
    My Bad. I would have sworn before you posted that that I had read about their o-ring mounts in reviews of their lighting systems. I guess it's good thing I wasn't sworn in...
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    Quote Originally Posted by acidinmylegs
    no problem, that's what I'm here for... to keep people honest.
    Can you keep me from being stupid? My migraine pills make me really groggy.

    Edit: You do understand that the HID's days are numbered, right?
    You bet. One more LED in a light like a Wilma could go over 900 lumens. But I think the head would be a lot larger.
    However, there still is nothing used in finished bike lights that is going to give the efficiency and battery life of the current HID bike lights. That may not be true next year.
    When I bought my light there was nothing that would give me 8 hours and be that bright. That's already not the case any more.


    Quote Originally Posted by socalrider
    But you can purchase 2 - 500L's for the same price as the Edison 5..
    DiNotte 500L$495.00 USD
    Edison 5 US $829.00
    495 x 2 = 990

    Then you have a twice as big package that is twice as heavy. That's a lousy set up. If you have a computer on one side of the stem it's nice to have one small head on the other side. And one battery. It looks like the Lupine HID head is quite a bit smaller than one 500L head.

    And you miss all the other benefits of the programmable charger and the programmable controller and the reset able battery and bulb protections etc. etc. etc. The Wilma LED from Lupine may have all those benefits too.

    There has been a 30W HID bike around for a while. And a dual 14 watt HID bulb light. Both are pretty big.
    Last edited by 2manybikes; 03-05-07 at 02:52 PM.
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    I sold one of my kidneys for the arc HID, you want me to sell the other one for the Edison??

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogBoy
    Umm....yes:
    My bad! It was 02:00 when I was checkign that out before sleep. How if I can get a US paying job I'm set


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    Quote Originally Posted by DScott
    Since the specs aren't out yet on the light output figure for the 300L (vs. teh 500L's 40 lumens figure), I would assume this uses a different LED...


    Am I understanding this correctly, that the 500L is the flood, and the 300L is the spot version?

    I wished they gave us the choice like how Trailhead does of if you want a 6 or 12 degree spot or flood when ordering because some people want a very powerful spot like me for instance. I'd love to to get a 5W spot but the Dinotte 5W is flood. -.-;
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    Quote Originally Posted by slvoid
    I sold one of my kidneys for the arc HID, you want me to sell the other one for the Edison??

    I know that kidney was from a homeless guy in the park.
    You might as well get the other one, no one will notice.
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    A quick question to anyone considering purchasing one of these: How much did your actual bike cost?

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