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Old 04-04-07, 09:17 PM   #1
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Bike rack etiquette

So my work has racks in each garage, but they also have those wheel bender racks near the gym. They are in this fenced of area where you need a badge to get in so thats where I lock my bike. I usually lock it to the side of a rack so I can do it properly. I leave my lock there. I have been commuting since last spring (when I started to work there). Rain or shine I ride my road bike.
So I get to work today to discover someone moved my lock to a side and locked their green bianchi there. There were other spaces available, yet they felt like locking there. Even thought it was quite clear someone is using it on regular bases. What do you guys and gals think. Was it ok for him to do it? Technically it is first come first serve type of deal, but there were empty spots on a rack and to the side in other places, and it was clear that someone was already using that spot.
I saw him after work when I went to unlock my bike (I put it in to the rack near my usual space with lock going through rear triangle and wheel and cable running through front wheel and rack). I took the lock off and waited for him move his bike so I can put a lock in it's usual place on a side of a rack. Hopefully that will remove all the doubt that it is being used. Should I have said something?
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Old 04-04-07, 09:20 PM   #2
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uhh....sorry but you said it, first come first serve...
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It's painful but true. That's the best space? Get there earlier. I go through the same thing at my office. Rain or shine, all winter long, there I am. First nice day, and there's, like, six ginormous mountain bikes propped all over the place, my lock sandwiched in the middle. I used to get pissed, but now, oh, well.
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It's painful but true. That's the best space? Get there earlier. I go through the same thing at my office. Rain or shine, all winter long, there I am. First nice day, and there's, like, six ginormous mountain bikes propped all over the place, my lock sandwiched in the middle. I used to get pissed, but now, oh, well.
It's not really the best place, there are other places on other racks where you can lock it exact same way.
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At our work, people often leave locks on the racks to save carrying them around. This doesn't make it exclusively your rack, although people will often use a different one if it's available.
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Where I work we have a bike room, complete with assigned and numbered spaces and key card entry with an automatic door that you never even have to touch. Mid-winter, when the bike room is pretty empty (it has room for 50 bikes and there were probably only 10 there- mostly long term storage) someone came in on a Friday night and locked their bike to my assigned and numbered spot (I also leave a lock there). It snowed all weekend but I came in, via bike, that weekend and the bike was still there. It stayed there for several days more until the snow melted- I was P.O'd since I ride everyday regardless of weather. Keep in mind these are assigned spots so now I was forced to lock my bike in someone else's spot.

In your case the spots are first come first serve but human beings are, if nothing else, territorial animals and I understand the almost primal response when someone has taken your spot but first come/first serve means just that. And there are lots of bike racks with u-locks locked to them but there is no way anyone could know whether that lock is regularly used or has been left there for years.

Since there are other spots available I'd say there is no logical reason, other than habit and your own territorial imperative, to not simply choose another spot and lock it there.
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Old 04-04-07, 10:11 PM   #8
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Have you pee'd on that side of the bike rack to mark your territory? If not, its first come first served IMO.
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...but there were empty spots on a rack and to the side in other places, and it was clear that someone was already using that spot...
So... your bike was there? A third party's bike was there? If there was no bike there, then the spot was not being used. A bike lock is not a bike. You were right not to say anything. Hope your lock is still there.
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Old 04-04-07, 10:15 PM   #10
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It's not really the best place, there are other places on other racks where you can lock it exact same way.
Ummm... you are the OP, right? So, what is the problem based on your statement above?

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Old 04-04-07, 10:17 PM   #11
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Even thought it was quite clear someone is using it on regular bases.
eh. People leave their locks on the racks here all the time, doesn't mean they use it on any regular basis. I lock my bike wherever I feel it's safest. The early bird, right?
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I can't stand people leaving locks on racks. It's not your ****ing rack and not your space. You're not using it. It's first come, first served. I pass this old u-lock every day. Years have gone by. No one is using it. It bothers the hell out of me.

Take your lock home and keep your bike off of mine!
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Shrug it off . . . and get a life!
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Old 04-04-07, 10:32 PM   #14
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Leaving your lock there isn't a reserved sign. Germans should learn this about sunloungers and towels, too.
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Ummm... you are the OP, right? So, what is the problem based on your statement above?

Just curious
They could have locked their bike in another empty spot with no locks? I probably did over react, but still kind of annoying. It's like you park a car away from other cars with plenty of empty spaces around. To avoid potential for scratches from people opening their doors. Then someone parks right near your car.
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They could have locked their bike in another empty spot with no locks? I probably did over react...
Ummm... yeah. You 'probably' over-reacted. And I meant that you could have locked your bike in one of the spots you said they could have locked their bike in. If you and I were standing there and I'd just locked my bike in 'your' spot and you pointed to another empty spot and said "you could have locked your bike up there", I'd politely point out that it looks like a great spot for your bike as I walk off (because any discussion about territory over a bike rack is ... hmmm ... I've already wasted too many words on it...
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I see this as equal to someone using the urinal next to you even though there are several others going unused. There are no laws about it (pending the next Man Law commercial) and you can't really saying anything to the guy, you just deal with it.
And this (probably) doesn't involve some form of undress.
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OMG this one is priceless. Are you seriously peeved? There is this awesome spot at our office to park. The space to the left is reserved for our suite. The space to the right is reserved for the next suite. The space in the middle is open to anyone.

That darn guy in the next suite always takes the open space before his reserved space. THAT BASTARD!!!

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I would have ignored your idle lock also. One of my biggest pet peeves in life is people reserving spaces in public places for their private use.

Usually its a chair. I have no moral issue with picking up somebodies coat and tossing it on the floor if I have observed them absent from the prized seat for half an hour. I can understand leaving your coat there to go to the bathroom or to make a call. But come on. If you go to lunch or some extended leave, don't reserve your seat for the rest of the day. The rest of us should stand all day and look at your coat relaxing?

Edit: Even people with more social grace than me might not pick up on the "this space reserved" aspect of your lock. Most of us would just assume you are a weight wienie and don't want to haul your lock home every day.

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You should thank him or her for being a fellow bike commuter, one more person helping make your office and parking area friendlier for bikes.
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It's not really the best place, there are other places on other racks where you can lock it exact same way.
Then you've got nothing to complain about.
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I have no moral issue with picking up somebodies coat and tossing it on the floor if I have observed them absent from the prized seat for half an hour. I can understand leaving your coat there to go to the bathroom or to make a call. But come on. If you go to lunch or some extended leave, don't reserve your seat for the rest of the day. The rest of us should stand all day and look at your coat relaxing?
This is the way I view locks. I leave my lock on the rack at work overnight, IF I'm going to be riding the very next day. Leaving it there over the weekend, or while I'm on a week's vacation is too much, IMO. And by no means do I expect it to reserve "my" place.
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If a lock is left on a rack, I look at it as someone being too lazy to carry it with them or not wanting to scrape up their paint with a big old chain. I also lock up to the side of a "wave" rack at work as opposed to locking within one of the 3 "spaces" on it. If I saw a lock sitting on the outer edge, I'd just ignore it and lock up where I always do. If I were going to a new rack I've never used before, I'd probably use the other side, but if it was a prime spot, I wouldn't let a lock stop me from taking the spot.

I was at the mall once, and I saw a car backing out. 3 aisles over in the parking lot, a guy jumps out of the passenger seat, and runs over to stand in the parking spot to hold it for his wife. I was right there. He thought he could keep me from pulling in while his wife fought traffic to get to the spot.

Guess who almost got run over? You snooze you lose. Parking is first come, first served.
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