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Old 04-08-07, 03:08 AM   #1
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Requests to motorists

What are your biggest pet peeves as bike commuters, and if you could request motorists to do anything to make bike commuting safer, what would it be (realistically)?

I would probably ask them to use their turn signals more often. My commute goes across a couple of exit lanes that lead to highways, and from my vantage point it's sometimes hard to tell if the approaching cars are exiting (and thereby crossing my path) or not, and whether I can just start crossing the street. So it would make my life a lot easier (and my commute faster) if those drivers exiting onto the highway would just hang up their bloody cell phones and turn on their blinkers once in a while.

Any other thoughts?
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Old 04-08-07, 03:20 AM   #2
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I ride on many roads that have no shoulders- so I must ride in the lane of traffic. My ONE request- give me more room and treat me like a vehicle when you pass me. And when you do pass me, I am riding faster than you think--- please clear me and give me some room before cutting me off.

And when I am coming down a descent at +70 kph-- and I am taking the lane- and the posted speed is 70kph- let me take the lane and don't tailgate me.

One more- when I have the right of way, don't try to pull out right in front of me to make a right turn (or left, for that matter)-- I am riding faster than you think.
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Old 04-08-07, 06:59 AM   #3
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Signaling more would be great. At intersections, if the car behind me is signaling, I can move my lane position to better allow them to turn, go straight, whatever they're doing. If they're not signaling, I have to assume that they're getting ready to do anything, take the lane and be in the way regardless of what they're doing.
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Old 04-08-07, 07:44 AM   #4
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Don't pass too close but conversely don't put yourself at risk by flying way into the opposing lane in non appropriate locations.
Slow down! Do you really need to arrive at your destination 5 minutes faster?
Grab that lever on the left side of your stearing column and use it.
Honking scares the crap out of me. Please make it a short polite honk, if any.
There simply is no need to gun your engine, fly around me, and quickly cut back into your lane to show your annoyance that a cyclist dare ride in the street and slow you down for 2 seconds. Did your mother teach you any manners?
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Old 04-08-07, 08:12 AM   #5
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Just don't run into me again. That's all. Simple.
You need details? OK: Hang up the phone, put down the Starbucks, stop messing with the CD player, stay in your own lane, stop throwing things and yelling.

If I could, I'd make people who violate my rules have to use a mitia with the top down for a while. I think drivers forget they are on the road in a multi ton box, and it's serious business. I want drivers aware of what they're doing, and connected to their enviorment.
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Old 04-08-07, 08:25 AM   #6
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???? I drive a miata with the top down. It's cold, so the top is up right now.
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I think drivers forget they are on the road in a multi ton box, and it's serious business.
The 140 000 people who die in car accidents each year support that point. Drive responsibly is all i have to say.
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Biggest annoyance:

I'm approaching a light that is red. A driver passes me, then moves WAY right to block me from passing them back on the right side.

This happens to me maybe once a week. The only thing worse has been the guy that passed me, then brake-checked me. He was an extreme exception though.
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Old 04-08-07, 09:35 AM   #9
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This happens to me maybe once a week. The only thing worse has been the guy that passed me, then brake-checked me. He was an extreme exception though.
The stupid thing is, when they block you on the right, they open up the left.

Often, I time lights. I hate it when a car passes me, but then has to stop because the drier was too stupid to time the light. This happens a lot. Drivers claim that cyclists slow down drivers, but drivers slow me down all the time.
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Actually if I could just get people to realize that driving a car is NO DIFFERENT than walking around with a loaded gun, I'd be happy. Just as I don't want people waiving a loaded gun around while talking on the phone, reading a map, juggling a hot coffee, etc, I don't want them driving while doing those things either.

Killing someone with a car is avoidable in almost all situations. The excuses people use are mostly all cop-outs. If you didn't see him, then you weren't paying good enough attention, 99% of the time. If they were acting oddly, well then, that's your signal to back off, stop, give more room, whatever's needed to be safe.

I don't think most people on the road these days have even HEARD of the 3-second gap rule.
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Look at more that the thirty feet ahead of you. How many buzz-n-passes, tailgatings, etc., would be avoided if drivers looked up and saw that the next light was red, or that the next intersection is a 4-way stop? On my Brooklyn commute, there's one part that's paticularly bad for this, from Atlantic Ave. to Dean St. to 5th Ave. and the worst part is, the same cars are passing me five and six times, not realizing that w/all the stops signs and red lights, I'm keeping pace with (or outpacing) them.

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  • hang-up the cellular telephone while driving (this includes reading/writing text messages)
  • faithful use of turn signals
  • careful placement in lane (e.g. don't pull practically onto shoulder at red light)
  • easy on the horn...a gentle "shave-and-a-haircut-two-bits" tune a quarter-mile back is great
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Old 04-08-07, 11:37 AM   #14
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Look at more that the thirty feet ahead of you. How many buzz-n-passes, tailagtings, etc., would be avoided if drivers looked up and saw that the next igt was red, or that the next intersection is a 4-way stop? On my Brooklyn commute, there's one part that's paticularlu bad for this, from atlantic ave to dean to 5th ave. and the worst part is, the same cars are passing me five and six times, not realizing that w/all the stops signs and red lights, I'm keeping pace with (or outpacing) them.
+1. Just learn it, for God's sake: in city traffic, I'm AS FAST or FASTER than you! So what's the point of this idiotic passing game? You know, that may be one of the big reasons cyclists filter. If they were just allowed their place in line (when their average speed is the same as that of other traffic), they'd be more likely to stick with it and be happy... But they keep getting passed by these morons and pushed further and further back into the line for no good reason at all, so filtering's only fair.

The above request mostly applies for slower roads. For faster arterials/country roads my request is: give me some breathing room when passing, dammit. And don't tell me to go on the sidewalk, you useless (#$@@!ing @#(&*) .
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Pay attention.
Think about what you're doing.
Be rational.


A short list, I think.
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Follow the rules at intersections. If it's your turn to wait, then wait, but if it's your turn to go, then go. Don't try to be polite by coming to a stop when you're not supposed to, and waiting for me, or waving at me, and so on.
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Follow the rules at intersections. If it's your turn to wait, then wait, but if it's your turn to go, then go. Don't try to be polite by coming to a stop when you're not supposed to, and waiting for me, or waving at me, and so on.
You took mine.

It only makes both of us take longer when you yield to me out of order. Just go.

Also, if you're driving a big truck with a flat back, please accelerate slowly so I can stay in your draft.

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Put down the phone and drive responsibly. That is all. Heck, i wish other drivers would do that when i'm driving my car...
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Don't tailgate
When traffic is light, move into adjacent same direction lane as soon you see me
Spray water on me if I give the thumbs up

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Hi Recursive-

I was running late to a group ride when an 18-wheeler slowly drove past me after a traffic signal. Got in the slipstream to ride the remaining three miles in record time and arrived early!

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Yeah, get outta my f*n lane.

Seriously, if I'm in the middle of the lane, there's a reason for it, and it's not 'cause my a-s is that wide.
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You know what would be a great idea? If there was some way that a driver could signal his intention to turn or change lanes. Maybe a system of blinking lights? You could even rig up the switches so that the driver could activate the lights without having to stop and get out of the car! That would be cool.
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To motorists, cyclists and peds alike - slow the f down and pay attention. Life is too short to be in such a damn hurry and the world is too beautiful to run around with your head up your okole.
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You know what would be a great idea? If there was some way that a driver could signal his intention to turn or change lanes. Maybe a system of blinking lights? You could even rig up the switches so that the driver could activate the lights without having to stop and get out of the car! That would be cool.
That was great.

What I don't understand is who the heck are people calling at 7 am? If my phone rung that early I'd think that someone had died. please hang up and do your make up and shaving at home.
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