Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Commuting Bicycle commuting is easier than you think, before you know it, you'll be hooked. Learn the tips, hints, equipment, safety requirements for safely riding your bike to work.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-09-07, 08:16 AM   #1
jorpe
new newbie
Thread Starter
 
jorpe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Denver Colorado
Bikes: Cannondale F400
Posts: 158
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
CCW and commuting...

I searched for an answer to this with at least 10 different queries, but was wondering how many people here carry a pistol while riding. I havent lived in CO long enough to get my permit but my close proximity to some bad parts of Denver make me wonder how many others have thought about going this route for personal protection. I work in the healthcare field and have already cleared it with my supervisors as well as the owner of the company if I do get a CCW I can carry to work as long as my pistol is out of sight while at work.
jorpe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-07, 08:32 AM   #2
Bolo Grubb
Senior Member
 
Bolo Grubb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Tucson, AZ
Bikes: 1984 Trek 720 with a Nexus hub, 2016 Cannondale Synapse
Posts: 1,838
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20 Post(s)
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ighlight=carry

anyone carry a gun?

Suggestions On How To Carry A Very Large Revolver?
Bolo Grubb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-07, 08:34 AM   #3
FlatFender
Senior Member
 
FlatFender's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Raleigh NC
Bikes:
Posts: 1,015
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
I carry on my commute every day. HOWEVER, my piece is unloaded, and stowed in my backpack (I carry a gun as part of my job). I really think cycling with a gun on my hip would horribly uncomfortable. I bike though some not so great neighborhoods, but I have never felt the need to have a gun on my hip. If you are going to do it, take your bike to the range, and practice dismounting and shooting... a lot... then do it some more. I wouldn't be comfortable doing it. But if you want to, its no skin off my ass.
FlatFender is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-07, 08:36 AM   #4
ax0n
Trans-Urban Velocommando
 
ax0n's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Lenexa, KS
Bikes: 06 Trek 1200 - 98 DB Outlook - 99 DB Sorrento
Posts: 2,400
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
There was a HUGE discussion (err, argument) about CCW on bike in the General Cycling forum (it might have been moved to Politics and Religion by now)

IMHO, if you have proper training including several visits per month to the range, and you're a law-abiding citizen, it's a good idea. You never know when you will need to defend yourself or an innocent bystander. You'll probably find a bit of adversity on a bicycle forum, whose demographic probably sways to the left a bit. I know you wouldn't be alone if you end up packing while riding, though.
ax0n is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-07, 09:35 AM   #5
BigRedSnackFoam
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Rochester, NY
Bikes: Specialized Allez Elite
Posts: 116
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I've had my NY permit for 11 years but I have yet to carry on the bike. I haven't found a good way to do it yet. (not that I've spent a lot of time thinking about it) I hate carrying anything on my body when I'm riding, backpacks, camelbacks, etc. Even my HRM strap took some getting used to. I've thought about off-body carry, in some sort of custom mount/holster but I like that idea even less. If my gun is not in my direct possession it is locked up, no exceptions. Off-body carry kinda violates my own rule. Besides, the only time I could ever see using a gun while riding is after getting attacked, knocked down and likely seperated from the bike. If the gun is mounted/stored on the bike that's a BIG problem! Likewise, if I'm attacked but still on the bike it's time to pedal faster!

Maybe I need to find something smaller and lighter and just deal with carrying something on me. In the meantime I'm not going to worry about it too much.
BigRedSnackFoam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-07, 10:08 AM   #6
BlkGuitarRedCar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Bikes: Wal-Mart Mongoose
Posts: 73
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
i just started commuting and havnt carryied yet but more than likely my glock19 will be coming with me
BlkGuitarRedCar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-07, 04:23 PM   #7
cccorlew
Erect member since 1953
 
cccorlew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Antioch, CA (SF Bay Area)
Bikes: Roubaix Expert, Motobecane Ti Century Elite turned commuter, Cannondale F500 Mtn bike, Some old French thing gone fixie
Posts: 6,786
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
I can ride faster than most bullets, so I don't carry. I might shoot, then catch up to a bullet and crash into it.
Plus, they all weigh too much.
Plus, WTF??? A flippin gun??? On a bike? Are you crazy? What the hell are you planning on shooting? I'd be too tempted to take out a car or several every day. Are you sure you'll be able to resist? I hope being passed doen't annoy you too much.
In lycra, where does the gun go anyway?
cccorlew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-07, 04:57 PM   #8
idcruiserman
Mmmmm potatoes
 
idcruiserman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Idaho
Bikes:
Posts: 1,921
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Bellyband might be one way to carry on a bike. I would skip the smartcarry with bike shorts .
idcruiserman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-07, 05:54 PM   #9
ChuckHubbert
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Holly, Michigan, USA
Bikes:
Posts: 80
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I have a fanny pack holster that I use on the bike. It's a compromise, but aren't all methods of CCW?
ChuckHubbert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-07, 07:42 PM   #10
Big Tommy C
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 171
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I have a SportHolster and a fanny pack holster.

Fanny pack wins hands down...The SportHolster is comfortable on and off the bike, but I have a feeling that it prints HUGELY when I'm on my road bike.

The fanny pack has the extra usefullness of giving me pockets. Fanny pack holsters are usually considered a dead giveaway that you're carrying, but I think that being on a bike is the only time that a fanny pack looks normal.
Big Tommy C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-07, 08:25 PM   #11
deputyjones
Striving for Fredness
 
deputyjones's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: West Michigan
Bikes: Old Giant Rincon
Posts: 1,190
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I carry mine enroute to work. Just remember, "Be the best witness" and "Fleeing is always a better option when it is available."
deputyjones is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-07, 08:26 PM   #12
DataJunkie
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 14,280
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Flame war in 5,4,3,...

Anyhow, I ride from Thornton to DTC and see no reason to carry a gun. I am more liable to shoot myself than anyone else.
The ability to sprint up to 30-40 mph is far more useful IMHO. That and riding when everyone else is asleep.
DataJunkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-07, 08:31 PM   #13
ZenSlinger
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Bikes:
Posts: 7
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I just started biking for real, but I plan to commute when my fitness level rises. I go to work at 5 pm and come home at 11 pm. I will be taking my Springfield XD .40 with me. Too much can happen on an 8 mile ride in the dark with no car for shelter, speed or comfort.

I will probably carry in my backpack, loaded but not chambered.
ZenSlinger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-07, 08:47 PM   #14
CastIron
Sensible shoes.
 
CastIron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: St. Paul,MN
Bikes: A few.
Posts: 8,799
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by DataJunkie
Flame war in 5,4,3,...
Too late. The stupidity started at post #7. Later than I thought, though.
__________________
Mike
Quote:
Originally Posted by cedricbosch View Post
It looks silly when you have quotes from other forum members in your signature. Nobody on this forum is that funny.
Quote:
Originally Posted by cedricbosch View Post
Why am I in your signature.
CastIron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-07, 12:55 AM   #15
jorpe
new newbie
Thread Starter
 
jorpe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Denver Colorado
Bikes: Cannondale F400
Posts: 158
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by DataJunkie
Flame war in 5,4,3,...

Anyhow, I ride from Thornton to DTC and see no reason to carry a gun. I am more liable to shoot myself than anyone else.
The ability to sprint up to 30-40 mph is far more useful IMHO. That and riding when everyone else is asleep.
I'll be riding from cap hill to thornton at night. I work nights in a medical building in Thornton
jorpe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-07, 01:13 AM   #16
ken cummings
Senior Member
 
ken cummings's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: northern California
Bikes: Bruce Gordon BLT, Cannondale parts bike, Ecodyne recumbent trike, Counterpoint Opus 2, miyata 1000
Posts: 5,601
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I biked through 5-points for years, at night, going to a DBTC meeting one the east side of town from my home in Wheatridge. Never a problem. But then I am 5'11", 192 lb, and male. Wore fairly geeky clothing too, never full kit. Try it or ride the bus.
ken cummings is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-07, 04:35 AM   #17
DataJunkie
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 14,280
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by jorpe
I'll be riding from cap hill to thornton at night. I work nights in a medical building in Thornton

You should be fine. Just stay aware. The trails really are not that bad. I have had a few late shifts that required a bit of night riding. However, not too late. I would be especially careful (aware) on Friday nights. Trails really are not that big of a congregating point for riff raff. Maybe for the homeless but for the most part they are fine.

Keep in mind that the platte trail in Adams county has a dusk to dawn ban. I ride it anyway. The sheriffs tend to only enforce it when they are bored.
The easiest place for them to surprise a cyclist is where the platte comes close to york. At that point I go dark.
I can't really speak for the capital hill area but I believe a fair amount of cyclists ride through that area. At least it seems that way when I do.

If the platte is still disconcerting, you could always ride to market street station and take the 120x to thornton PNR and ride to grant. I'm throwing this location out as a guess due to the fact that most of the medical buildings in Thornton are located by North Suburban Hospital along Grant.

Give it a try. You may be pleasantly surprised. I know I was.
DataJunkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-07, 06:49 AM   #18
jorpe
new newbie
Thread Starter
 
jorpe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Denver Colorado
Bikes: Cannondale F400
Posts: 158
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by DataJunkie
You should be fine. Just stay aware. The trails really are not that bad. I have had a few late shifts that required a bit of night riding. However, not too late. I would be especially careful (aware) on Friday nights. Trails really are not that big of a congregating point for riff raff. Maybe for the homeless but for the most part they are fine.

Keep in mind that the platte trail in Adams county has a dusk to dawn ban. I ride it anyway. The sheriffs tend to only enforce it when they are bored.
The easiest place for them to surprise a cyclist is where the platte comes close to york. At that point I go dark.
I can't really speak for the capital hill area but I believe a fair amount of cyclists ride through that area. At least it seems that way when I do.

If the platte is still disconcerting, you could always ride to market street station and take the 120x to thornton PNR and ride to grant. I'm throwing this location out as a guess due to the fact that most of the medical buildings in Thornton are located by North Suburban Hospital along Grant.

Give it a try. You may be pleasantly surprised. I know I was.


Hitting the 120 was an option for sure. I work close to north suburban, right where you indicated. I havent lived in denver but for a couple months, so I dont know the platt trail yet. I may start out just riding down to market street and taking the park n ride a couple times to see how it works out. Thanks for the help. You have close to the same ride I have, although I just get to stop in capitol hill and not go all the way to DTC. I'm excited to not be tethered to a vehicle once I get this figured out.
jorpe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-07, 07:43 AM   #19
DataJunkie
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 14,280
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I think you will find that it is not that bad. Heck, I've ridden down York in Commerce City and Brighton Blvd into denver. Plus, I regularly take D11 through north Denver to DTC. That has a few interesting neighborhoods up north. However, at 6 am most of the troublemakers are asleep.

PM me if you have any questions. I am fairly familiar with a good percentage of your route.
..and welcome to Denver. I myself am a transplant from SE Washington State.
DataJunkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-07, 08:57 AM   #20
ft_critical
Occasionally Here
 
ft_critical's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: αιθήρ
Bikes: Secret......
Posts: 314
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Maybe you could convert one of your bottle cages into a subtle holster? Something descrete, yet something that provides easy access in case you need to do a 'ride-by' or shoot on the move.
ft_critical is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-07, 09:27 AM   #21
Artkansas 
Pedaled too far.
 
Artkansas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: La Petite Roche
Bikes:
Posts: 12,855
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by cccorlew
I can ride faster than most bullets, so I don't carry. I might shoot, then catch up to a bullet and crash into it.


Yes, but if you are traveling on a rocket at the speed of light, and riding your bicycle inside the rocket, is it better to use a trainer, or will you simply stay in place without support?
Artkansas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-07, 09:30 AM   #22
jorpe
new newbie
Thread Starter
 
jorpe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Denver Colorado
Bikes: Cannondale F400
Posts: 158
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
aye... I am a recent transplant from the ''501" area code. I got my Cannondale from the shop rigth by Cajuns.
jorpe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-07, 10:26 AM   #23
SDRider
Cat None
 
SDRider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: San Diego
Bikes: LOOK KG 461, LeMond Zurich, Giant Talon 29er 0
Posts: 4,510
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Never have I felt the need to carry a firearm with me on my rides. Hell, rarely have I felt the need to carry one at all. Besides, it's impossible to get a CCW here in California so it's really a moot point unless I want to break the law.

Oh, and it's against company policy to bring a gun to work as well.

I really wouldn't want to live in an area where I felt compelled to carry a gun with me at all times just to feel safe.
SDRider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-07, 05:28 PM   #24
jorpe
new newbie
Thread Starter
 
jorpe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Denver Colorado
Bikes: Cannondale F400
Posts: 158
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I think I'm just going to carry an AR15 on my back. 16'' carbine barrel, tactical lighting, front grip, multiple 30 round magazines and one of those rambo style clips of rounds across my chest.
jorpe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-07, 06:14 PM   #25
DataJunkie
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 14,280
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Ok. I'm going to move to capital hill and find a new job in thornton. You would make the perfect riding partner.

Actually, I would love it if my work would move to broomfield or downtown from DTC. My coworkers are less than thrilled with that idea. Though downtown would require a beater to lock up outside.
DataJunkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:55 PM.