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Old 05-31-07, 09:37 PM   #1
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My very first bird stand-off with a cager!

It totally caught me off guard today, since most motorists around here are courteous, and the few negative encounters I've had were with people who were mostly clueless and not intentionally reckless. But today, a driver was so horribly inconvenienced by having to move over to pass me, that he aggressively tapped his horn, passed way too close, and continued blaring his horn after the pass was completed. The occupants of the car were two teenage boys, neither of whom would meet my gaze as they passed. But I could tell the driver was eyeing me in his rearview mirror, because after he had passed he extended his arm out the window to flip me the bird. I returned my own bird. This lasted all the way until he disappeared over the crest of the hill we were climbing. I really wanted to meet him at the light I knew was at the bottom of the hill, to ask him politely what that was all about. But he got the green before I could reach him.

Initially, it pissed me off, but it didn't take long before I started laughing at how ridiculous the whole thing was. What exactly was he communicating? Does he do this to all slower-moving vehicles he has to pass? Farmers driving tractors? Large trucks laboring up a hill? Amish horse and buggy?
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Old 05-31-07, 09:42 PM   #2
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What exactly was he communicating?
He was letting you know his IQ of course. Apparently, he's rather proud of it.
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Old 05-31-07, 10:26 PM   #3
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I had some punk kid yell something out the passenger window of his Tahoe yesterday, only to be stopped at the very next light. I casually pulled up beside him to find that he had quickly rolled up the window. I just stood there shaking my head at him. He wasn't about to turn to look at me. I laughed as I rode off, hoping to myself that he didn't run me over on the subsequent pass.

Thankfully he moved into the left lane when he came by a second time - window still up.
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Old 05-31-07, 11:58 PM   #4
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Dude! He was telling you that your number one! I had a kid do that to me today too, I love the attention.
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Old 06-01-07, 12:12 AM   #5
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I have yet to encounter one of these JAM's, but I'm sure it'll happen soon enough. I just don't get it though; what goes through these kids' little brains? Is it really fun for them? Are bikers a serious inconvenience to them? When I still had my car, before I ever thought I'd be commuting by bike, I was always very courteous to all bikers, even when I was a dorky teenager. I'd always change lanes or hug the line furthest from them if there was a car next to me.
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I had someone tell me to get on the sidewalk today as they took my lane. I told them to get in the other ****ing lane and pass me.

I swear I'm about ready to keep printouts of the page within the KS driver's handbook that talks about bicycles, and start slipping it into the passenger side windows of f'tards that pass me in my lane when there are two lanes.
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you want to make mad driver the time nexts? you want hurt his heart?
you violate space when arrive ligths stop to catches him at lights (red light)
then pounds with fist on car doors of his?
he is spaces will be violate muchly! much anger arouses his heart, rabid dog!
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Old 06-01-07, 01:49 AM   #8
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you want to make mad driver the time nexts? you want hurt his heart?
you violate space when arrive ligths stop to catches him at lights (red light)
then pounds with fist on car doors of his?
he is spaces will be violate muchly! much anger arouses his heart, rabid dog!
holy guacamole
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Old 06-01-07, 04:39 AM   #9
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I was biking home from a ride in the foothills a few weeks ago. A truck passed me once, I passed him again, and he passed me again. Each time he was staring in the rear view mirror. The last time I stuck my tounge out at him after the pass and was gifted with a middle finger. I just could not figure out why he kept staring at me. Anyhow..... did not matter one bit.
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Old 06-01-07, 06:51 AM   #10
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...after he had passed he extended his arm out the window to flip me the bird. I returned my own bird. This lasted all the way until he disappeared over the crest of the hill we were climbing. I really wanted to meet him at the light I knew was at the bottom of the hill, to ask him politely what that was all about...
What exactly was he communicating?
Probably the same message you were.

BTW, are you serious about wanting to meet him after your digital exchange to ask polite questions and expecting polite answers?
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I had a guy in a car with 2 guys and 2 gals (READ: Guys acting macho for the ladies) yell out the window at me yesterday to get off the road. First time that has ever happened to me. I invited them to come and speak to me about the legality of cycling in the roadway, but they declined so I pulled in behind them in the gas station they had just pulled into. I was standing over my bike examining their license plate when the head-teenage-face-piercing-trailer-park-occupant-in-charge walked out of the store and started his peacock dance of "What? You got a problem man?!!". Of course he was walking away from me the whole time and just hopped in the back seat of the car. Real tough guy.
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I had someone tell me to get on the sidewalk today as they took my lane. I told them to get in the other ****ing lane and pass me.

I swear I'm about ready to keep printouts of the page within the KS driver's handbook that talks about bicycles, and start slipping it into the passenger side windows of f'tards that pass me in my lane when there are two lanes.
I tried that. I kept them in my bag for about a month, with never an occassion to hand it out. I usually just tell those types of folks to spend 5 mins of their day at the dmv's website to learn the law.
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Old 06-01-07, 07:26 AM   #13
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holy guacamole
hahahahaaha. perfect.
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Old 06-01-07, 07:42 AM   #14
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I had a guy in a car with 2 guys and 2 gals (READ: Guys acting macho for the ladies) yell out the window at me yesterday to get off the road. First time that has ever happened to me. I invited them to come and speak to me about the legality of cycling in the roadway, but they declined so I pulled in behind them in the gas station they had just pulled into. I was standing over my bike examining their license plate when the head-teenage-face-piercing-trailer-park-occupant-in-charge walked out of the store and started his peacock dance of "What? You got a problem man?!!". Of course he was walking away from me the whole time and just hopped in the back seat of the car. Real tough guy.
They had girls with them? That's the best. Next time tell the girls that a guy with an aggression problem like that...is probably compensating for the fact that he'll never be able to satisfy them. Little punks like that, you can't shame them, can't hurt their feelings, but if girls are around, embarrassing them is your best weapon.
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Old 06-01-07, 07:54 AM   #15
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you want to make mad driver the time nexts? you want hurt his heart?
you violate space when arrive ligths stop to catches him at lights (red light)
then pounds with fist on car doors of his?
he is spaces will be violate muchly! much anger arouses his heart, rabid dog!
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The occupants of the car were two teenage boys
You think it's bad now. School's out soon and in two weeks they'll be bored out of their skulls looking for entertainment and thrills. Okay, it won't affect the morning rides in, but... And then there's the one's who get cars for graduation. That's going to be fun. There's a particular individual who got a restored 914 (Yes, it's very nice) who I keep an extra eye out for by checking... the obituaries. This guy is going to kill someone. I don't know what his parents were thinking.
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It surprises me all the time that this kind of moronic behaviour still happens, I just don't get what people expect. My favourite question now is "What do you want from me?".

I was stuck in a long line of single-lane traffic last night, due to construction on Dundas St. I decided, seeing as we were all stopped, to take out the Mars bar I had and opened it, meanwhile, the cars in front crept forward 2 car lengths as two ahead I guess had turned right on a red (legal here). Because there was a 25ft. gap in front of me, the guy behind me wanted to use that space, honked. So I threw up my arms, turned and asked "what?!" - he motioned for me to move forward, so I took a bite of my Mars bar, rode forward, stopped and threw out my arms again as if to say "There! Happy?" and shook my head at the guy. Impatience must be one of those silent killer things that peak peoples stress, I swear it's happening more and more that people RACE around towards taillights and stop lights. Morons, the lot of them. And more often than not, I'm never one to hold up traffic downtown, it's usually way too slow for that - and I show courtesy/respect for other road users, but at the same time I'll hold my ground if I have to (taking lanes, etc.). *sigh*
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you want to make mad driver the time nexts? you want hurt his heart?
you violate space when arrive ligths stop to catches him at lights (red light)
then pounds with fist on car doors of his?
he is spaces will be violate muchly! much anger arouses his heart, rabid dog!
wow, this is pure poetry. Elusor, don't learn English any better than you have already, this is awesome!
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I had an incident but no birds involved -
rolling down an overpass at 25mph+, a new Camry coming in the opposite direction busted a U-turn right in front of me, 2-lane road, i had to slam on brakes (thank Hayes) as he came all the way into the shoulder at low speed to complete his turn.
I hollered and he jammed on the gass (fly! fly!)
...only to get stopped at the red light in 200yards
I rolled next to the driver's door, stopped, looked in... leaning over the Camry, looking down at fat white middle-America, dressed up, VERY uncomfortable... wouldn't look at me, staring straight ahead.

I just grinned and yelled "You not see me or what!? Pay Attention!"
wife in passenger seat yapped at gentleman, slapped him on the arm...

I took off. Ahhh, what a beautiful afternoon it was.
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You think it's bad now. School's out soon and in two weeks they'll be bored out of their skulls looking for entertainment and thrills. Okay, it won't affect the morning rides in, but... And then there's the one's who get cars for graduation. That's going to be fun. There's a particular individual who got a restored 914 (Yes, it's very nice) who I keep an extra eye out for by checking... the obituaries. This guy is going to kill someone. I don't know what his parents were thinking.
He's just as likely to kill himself (and others along with him), or maybe just wrap it around a tree. OTOH, I'm wondering if high gas prices won't limit at least some teenaged foolishness this summer. Can you imagine what it would take to fund a snotty yuppie punk who's got nothing to do all day but drive? Even indulgent yuppie parents might think twice about it.
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He's just as likely to kill himself (and others along with him), or maybe just wrap it around a tree. OTOH, I'm wondering if high gas prices won't limit at least some teenaged foolishness this summer. Can you imagine what it would take to fund a snotty yuppie punk who's got nothing to do all day but drive? Even indulgent yuppie parents might think twice about it.
I hope and wish you are right.
UNfortunatly, i think the parents will just put up with it. the yuppy single-child parents I know (many of my coworkers, I'm afraid) give them what they want. Many of the kids have had their own car since they were 16 and have destroyed 2 or 3 by now. they're already paying $3k+ per year in insurance.
One lady's son ran head-on into their neighbor, on their street, in their 2-day old Nissan Titan. No injuries, low-speed... they gave their son the husband's truck and the 2 adults carpooled till they got the Titan fixed.
ah welll.....
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With all the sH&t from motorists we have to put up with, I think real soon there will be a new medical terminology just for us bicycle commuters: bicycle rage syndrome.
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if my bike weighed 3000 lb and had 150 horsepower I would be a real menace !
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You think it's bad now. School's out soon and in two weeks they'll be bored out of their skulls looking for entertainment and thrills. Okay, it won't affect the morning rides in, but... And then there's the one's who get cars for graduation. That's going to be fun. There's a particular individual who got a restored 914 (Yes, it's very nice) who I keep an extra eye out for by checking... the obituaries. This guy is going to kill someone. I don't know what his parents were thinking.
I saw a kid driving a new Jaguar sports car one day and said to my buddy "that kid is going to get killed driving like that". Two weeks later, he did. I cannot express the guilt the father felt for buying his son the weapon his son used to kill himself. Thankfully, no one else was injured.

I live in a neighborhood where there are lots of these kids, and unfortuantely, the attrition rate of these kids, either by reckless acts, or suicides covered up as accidents, is incredibly sad. But I guess as long as mom can have lunch at the country club, and dad can work and play golf without the kids getting in the way, it's all worth it.
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you want to make mad driver the time nexts? you want hurt his heart?
you violate space when arrive ligths stop to catches him at lights (red light)
then pounds with fist on car doors of his?
he is spaces will be violate muchly! much anger arouses his heart, rabid dog!
Elusor, you rock!
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