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Old 08-07-07, 11:12 PM   #1
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UnderArmour vs. Wal-Mart Brand spandex shirt

Have anyone tried both? Is there really a difference between the two?

I own a couple of Wal-Mart brand (Starter and Athletic something-something) spandex shirts. I wear them either as outer garment or as undershirt for the less casual occassions. I think the Wal-Mart stuff keeps me dry and my musce supported pretty well.
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Old 08-07-07, 11:14 PM   #2
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Under armor is nice. My only issue with it is that I can't justify it being 10x nicer than the walmart ones.
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Old 08-07-07, 11:16 PM   #3
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The one thing I've noticed about higher-quality compression garments is that they don't quite get that nasty stink like lower-pricepoint garments. For that reason alone, my closet is filled with UnderArmour.
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Old 08-08-07, 12:23 AM   #4
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It comes down to the blend (percentages) of materials and stitching. If I had my choice, I would buy (microfiber) garments made up of 20 to 30% polyamide and 70 to 80% polyester. Absorbs/wicks and dries faster but very expensive.

As far as (polyester) stink in lower priced garments, adding a cup of vinegar into the wash with your favorite liquid detergent-without any dye/additives or perfumes in it (cold or warm water only...many make the mistake of washing in hot water and using fabric softeners), will take care of any smells plus will clean your washing machine tub at the same time...lol.
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As a policy, all cycling-related garments (whether compression shirts, jerseys, bibs, socks, gloves, jackets, vests, etc.) seem to do better in cold water.
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bought some similar items on ebay called T3k.. Pretty similar quality to under armour..

http://search.ebay.com/search/search...fsoo%3D1&fgtp=
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As a policy, all cycling-related garments (whether compression shirts, jerseys, bibs, socks, gloves, jackets, vests, etc.) seem to do better in cold water.
I'm making a hypothesis here.

It's like drying cars with chamois, you have to wet it first before it would absorb water well. Therefore, wetting the garment might help it to draw moisture out. Also, the cooler liquid on the clothings helps cool your skin first with its inherently lower temperature and as it dries.

Human body is a marvelous piece of engineering. It uses one of the best way of cooling (evaporative). Phase change of sweat (from liquid to vapor) zaps lots of heat energy from your body.
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FYI: Bad to use dryer softener on performance materials. It coats the fabric in an oil, negating the fabrics wicking/breathing properties... Wash cold, then hang dry.
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I have a bunch of Dri-Duke brand moisture wicking T-shirts, they are $10 at a military base/post exchange. They make loose (regular) fit and compression. I have only seen them in military colors though: brown, olive green, tan, and black. Maybe they make other colors, google "dri-duke".
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Have anyone tried both? Is there really a difference between the two?

I own a couple of Wal-Mart brand (Starter and Athletic something-something) spandex shirts. I wear them either as outer garment or as undershirt for the less casual occassions. I think the Wal-Mart stuff keeps me dry and my muscle supported pretty well.
I wear both a "high end" and Wal-mart compression shirt when I work out and for riding as a base layer under my jersey or shirt. (Losing 143 pounds creates a mess of loose skin.) The better shirts fit better and are more comfortable, but the Wal-mart ones are fine.
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I find no difference in comfort between my collection of "microfiber" t-shirts from Target, Costco, Old Navy, or the BX, and any of my bonafide "cycling jerseys."

My decision to wear one over the other generally centers on whether I need the back pocket that day or not.
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Old 08-08-07, 07:57 AM   #12
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Have anyone tried both? Is there really a difference between the two?

I own a couple of Wal-Mart brand (Starter and Athletic something-something) spandex shirts. I wear them either as outer garment or as undershirt for the less casual occassions. I think the Wal-Mart stuff keeps me dry and my musce supported pretty well.
The thing is, Starter is NOT a Wally-World house brand. They're a major athletic company who makes good stuff. I'm sure that they consider themselves a direct competitor to UnderArmour and vice-versa. UnderArmour does make some good stuff but I doubt it's functionally any better than Starter. They just market themselves as a "premium" brand and do some fancy stuff with mixing of materials, etc. And they don't sell their stuff at Wally-Mart. And Wally-mart just sells stuff cheaper. If you go someplace like Dick's that sells UnderArmour you'll find that they sell Starter too and for not much cheaper than UnderArmour.

Now I don't shop at Wally-World on principle, but I do shop at Target and have a couple of fantastic Champion shirts that were on sale for like $10 or something.....

To me a cycling jersey is considerably different just because it's a specialized piece of gear. Three pockets in the back and I only buy full-zipper jerseys. But I only own 3 short-sleeve jerseys and two long sleeve. I don't mind paying $75 or so for a good one.
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Under Armour is pretty over-rated in my book. After about 10 washes, the sweat just sits on the outside of the shirt. Good luck wearing it as a base layer in the winter...
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Has anyone who rides in winter noticed how under armor steams after a long ride? When I commuted in the snow and parked my bike in the bike locker (the good ol days) at the train station i'd turn into a portable steam room.
For most days all I ever needed in Connecticut winter was a long sleeve underarmor and a very thin cheapy rain jacket that I still have. One blocked the wind the other insulated. I carried a little thinsulate vest to keep my core up if it wasn't windy to use instead of hte rain jacket.
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Under Armour is pretty over-rated in my book. After about 10 washes, the sweat just sits on the outside of the shirt. Good luck wearing it as a base layer in the winter...
I have some of both the hot and cold weather, so I wouldn't be wearing the ones I sweat into in the winter. The warm weather shirts came from a class I taught (wilderness med) and the cold were from a buddy who bought the wrong size (I paid, not free )
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I don't have problem with washed UnderArmour, but I agree that the Heat Gear isn't worth the price. In the summer, I prefer Ansi Class II lime-green shirts that I buy from alertshirt.com.

But in the winter, the UnderArmour ColdGear is fantastic. The shirt and a nylon shell get me down to about 20F. The shirt + a wool sweater + a shell get me down to about 10F. The shirt + a wool sweater + a leather jacket + a shell get me down to about 0F. It's pricey, but really, really good.
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I can't tell the cheap stuff from the good. My body sweats the same and feels the same no matter what I use or where I bought it or how much I paid for it. The one thing I will say, loose fitting jerseys are cooler then tight fitting ones.
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I read the washing labels on all my gear after I decided to buy some of the synthetics, and you can get a lot of milage out of any of them if you wash cold and avoid softner and dryer sheets like the plague. That said I do use Arm & Hammer detergent on my UA and cycling gear to keep the stink factor under control and I've found that to work pretty well. YMMV

I've noticed that the UA stuff stains pretty easily, but then I did get a white and a yellow heat gear last time around and they obviously aren't the best colors for avoiding the occasional spot.
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All of my UnderArmour HeatGear and ColdGear is the same color...basic black. It is generally worn beneath something else, so the appearance of a black undergarment matches anything I might be wearing on the outside. They absolutely should never see a clothesdryer or a fabric softening sheet.
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I don't have problem with washed UnderArmour, but I agree that the Heat Gear isn't worth the price. In the summer, I prefer Ansi Class II lime-green shirts that I buy from alertshirt.com.

But in the winter, the UnderArmour ColdGear is fantastic. The shirt and a nylon shell get me down to about 20F. The shirt + a wool sweater + a shell get me down to about 10F. The shirt + a wool sweater + a leather jacket + a shell get me down to about 0F. It's pricey, but really, really good.
Two walmart brand underarmor knockoffs plus a shell got me down to -15. WALMART BABY!
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You rode with just two thin, tight shirts and a nylon windbreaker in -15* Fahrenheit? Wow, that's cold.
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My layering usually consist of the underarmor type shirt and with a illuminite vest on top. The vest has many zippered pockets in it and it holds everything (cellphone, wallet, keys, flashlight, or even a
camera...). It's also quite breathable.

Here is the link for the Illuminite vest. I got it from Nashbar:
http://www.illuminite.com/Catalog/Cycling/81602V_c.html

http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?c...All%20Products

The Illuminite vest is very high quality. However, I would recommend against getting alert yellow, which is what I have. It stains too easily and I can't get grease spots (what the chain sling out when riding) out of it.
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You rode with just two thin, tight shirts and a nylon windbreaker in -15* Fahrenheit? Wow, that's cold.
No, not a nylon windbreaker.

An Arcteryx Gamma SV.

And I was nice and toasty too.
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Arcteryx...nice high-quality stuff!
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I have tried a number of different brands of synthetic shirts (I sweat a lot and it is nice to just wear them around instead of cotton). Under Armour are the best ones I have found. I have some cheaper and more expensive brands and nothing compares. BCG (I think), Northface, Adidas, Duofold, 5.11, Sugoi. Some of them wick very well, but UA is by far more comfortable. Cold gear works especially well when it gets a little chilly out.
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