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    "I would but" (rant, feel free to ignore)

    ok,

    I show up on a bicycle.

    I don't talk to you.

    I don't look at you.

    I'm sorry if you feel threatened by me or whatever,

    but you REALLY don't need to come up to me EVERY SINGLE DAY and tell me why you "can't" ride a bicycle in. I will not shove anything I do in your face, but I will most certainly not get off my bicycle to see another perfectly healthy (well, ok, healthy enough to ride a bike) person give me a line about how they "just couldn't possibly" do it and tell them I agree with them, or give them absolution for being lazy.

    Really people, if you want absolution, go see a priest or a shrink.

    I don't care if you chose not to ride, but I'm not going to feed your delusion by telling you it's not your "fault" that you chose ANYTHING you chose to do or not do.

    ok, sorry, done ranting.

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    This is a fun game. I think you should sit down with this person and really talk with them about why they can't commute by bicycle. It's what they want anyway and ignoring them isn't working. So have a chat. Have many chats. Help them out. Come up with even more reasons why they can't ride to work. Things like:

    "Rain is highly toxic. Some people melt when exposed to rain water."
    "If I were you, I wouldn't even leave my house when it gets colder than 60F."
    "You couldn't possibly ride five miles. It hurts!"
    "Yes, you would sweat. Of course the stench would be terrible."
    "Wind knocks me over all the time."
    "Just yesterday a motorist threw a grenade at me."
    "I agree. Nobody rides in L.A."

    Just be helpful.

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    "Just yesterday a motorist threw a grenade at me."

    This has happened to me. However, I wasn't on a bike at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cromulent View Post
    This is a fun game. I think you should sit down with this person and really talk with them about why they can't commute by bicycle. It's what they want anyway and ignoring them isn't working. So have a chat. Have many chats. Help them out. Come up with even more reasons why they can't ride to work. Things like:

    "Rain is highly toxic. Some people melt when exposed to rain water."
    "If I were you, I wouldn't even leave my house when it gets colder than 60F."
    "You couldn't possibly ride five miles. It hurts!"
    "Yes, you would sweat. Of course the stench would be terrible."
    "Wind knocks me over all the time."
    "Just yesterday a motorist threw a grenade at me."
    "I agree. Nobody rides in L.A."

    Just be helpful.
    That made me laugh like all hell. I'll have to use that line at work next time I get the "excuse monger" talking to me.

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    Hooah

    Well, Thanks for your service. I hope things are a little calmer for you now.

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    Just out of curiosity, what is a legitimate excuse, to you? Here's mine: I live 25 miles away from work, with a 3,500 elevation gain in one 8-mile segment, and grades of 10-20%. It takes me almost 2 hours to ride home, and it is an ass kicker. Not something I could manage often, certainly not daily. To commute both ways would take so much time out of my day that I could do little else. I'm one of those who wishes I could commute, and misses the days when I could.

    Of course, those grenades are also a big deterrent.

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    Not many can to 50 miles daily for a week so your excuse is valid. I would personally move closer to work or just ride twice or three times max a week to work, rest driving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornbiker View Post
    Just out of curiosity, what is a legitimate excuse, to you? Here's mine: I live 25 miles away from work, with a 3,500 elevation gain in one 8-mile segment, and grades of 10-20%. It takes me almost 2 hours to ride home, and it is an ass kicker. Not something I could manage often, certainly not daily. To commute both ways would take so much time out of my day that I could do little else. I'm one of those who wishes I could commute, and misses the days when I could.
    I'm sorry, your commute is making me drool. But yeah, that would be difficult to do even a couple of times a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cromulent View Post
    I'm sorry, your commute is making me drool. But yeah, that would be difficult to do even a couple of times a week.
    For me it would be difficult to do even once . Two hours? Damn.

    My commute is 18 miles, and while there are some minor ups and downs along the way, I don't have a 3500 ft climb.

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    "It's too ********* HOT!"
    Some days I tend to agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiyn View Post
    "It's too ********* HOT!"
    Some days I tend to agree.
    I'd rather have the heat of earlier this week 100+ then the thunderstorms tommorow. Dang thunderstorms always come at commute time and stick around for hours.

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    This morning I happened to walk in the building with one of the new attorneys and she was asking me how my ride was and then she asked me what I thought about the Tour. She said she just got her new Velonews...

    What? You get Velonews? So you must ride a bike, right?

    "Well, yes. I used to ride alot. Not so much anymore."

    Have you ever thought about riding to work?

    "Nope. I'm just too vain."
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    There are plenty of legitimate excuses. I think the OP's point is that those who offer up pre-emptive excuses for not riding when we don't even talk to them about bicycles are sick in the head. This sort of happened to me for a while, but everyone has stopped by now -- after a year and a half of daily commuting.

    The funny things that people say to me are, for example when it's raining: "Don't you get wet?". Or when it's cold: "Isn't it cold?" Um, yeah. It sure is all that.

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    I think rain CAN be a legitimate excuse. I like riding in the rain, but it's hard for me in storms. My glasses get covered in water and I really really need good vision for street riding. I can understand if you're riding on the shoulder of the road or something, you'd be okay.. but I'm looking out for cars 6" to my left, people preparing to cross the street legally, illegally, and checking mirrors in cars to make sure I don't get doored.

    Just for my safety alone, I think it's a legitimate excuse. Now, if they say that on a sunny day or "chance of light showers" day, screw that. Ride!

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    Just be glad to have someone around at work who kinda seems interested. I do construction work and after communting for 6 months, everyone is still asking me why I ride my bike if I dont have a DUI.
    Quote Originally Posted by M_S View Post
    ..... but at the end of the day we're all just dorks riding around on bicycles, right?

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    People must think that bikers are like vegetarians; pushy, aggressive, and intolerant of anybody who doesn't do what they do.
    Not too much to say here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cromulent View Post
    I'm sorry, your commute is making me drool. But yeah, that would be difficult to do even a couple of times a week.
    Yeah, it's absolutely beautiful! Just not commute-friendly. Fortunately the good of this location outweighs the bad about living far away, and I'm a homeowner, so not too excited about selling just to live close enough to commute to work. I suppose I could just quit work...

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    Or that we're anti-car. Some are I'm sure, but I'd imagine that most are not. We're just pro-bike. At least I am.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddyfish View Post
    People must think that bikers are like vegetarians; pushy, aggressive, and intolerant of anybody who doesn't do what they do.
    You mean vegans. My girlfriend is a Lacto-ovo vegetarian who also eats fish (don't ask me I don't know) and doesn't bat an eye as she makes me a cheeseburger while wearing leather shoes.

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    My coworkers don't even show enough interest to make excuses. Of course, to most people in these parts riding a bicycle to work is the most idiotic thing one can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddyfish View Post
    People must think that bikers are like vegetarians; pushy, aggressive, and intolerant of anybody who doesn't do what they do.
    I'm a vegetarian and am none of those things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbarros View Post
    ok,

    I show up on a bicycle.

    I don't talk to you.

    I don't look at you.

    I'm sorry if you feel threatened by me or whatever,

    but you REALLY don't need to come up to me EVERY SINGLE DAY and tell me why you "can't" ride a bicycle in. I will not shove anything I do in your face, but I will most certainly not get off my bicycle to see another perfectly healthy (well, ok, healthy enough to ride a bike) person give me a line about how they "just couldn't possibly" do it and tell them I agree with them, or give them absolution for being lazy.

    Really people, if you want absolution, go see a priest or a shrink.

    I don't care if you chose not to ride, but I'm not going to feed your delusion by telling you it's not your "fault" that you chose ANYTHING you chose to do or not do.

    ok, sorry, done ranting.

    -- James
    I don't really get this response at work. I work in IT, where eccentricity is expected, in Unix systems administration, where the most eccentric of the eccentric reside, so cycling might not seem so unusual compared to the guy who's built a veritable shrine to Darth Maul in his cubicle, or the guy with the shrill staccato giggle which can be heard the entire length of our large floor, or the woman obsessed with backup systems hardware (that's a good obsession to have represented in one's workgroup, by the way).

    For the most part people wander in to see which bike I've ridden. The favorite is my little green 1969 Raleigh Twenty. My coworkers are ho-hum about my road bike, although some of them comment on the jersey/shorts combination I wear when I ride the road bike in.

    If someone did approach me with the lines you've described, I'd talk to them about how they could commute by bike if they set it as a goal. Luckily Atlanta has good train service from the four directions, so I might show them, as an intermediate commute, how to get to the station nearest them. (a person in Dunwoody might feel intimidated by a full commute into downtown, but they could certainly bike to Perimeter Station).

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    I had one coworker compliment me on riding my bike to work. She seemed very impressed and I said "Well, don't be so impressed. It's just riding a bike to work."

    "Yes, but I can't."

    What, ride to work?

    "No. I can't ride a bicycle."

    Oh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyBikeGotStolen View Post
    Just be glad to have someone around at work who kinda seems interested. I do construction work and after communting for 6 months, everyone is still asking me why I ride my bike if I dont have a DUI.
    +1 on that. Construction work can be tough for commuting, especially if you convene on-site and not at a central office or the like...most panniers can't handle the weight of a loaded Knaack box.... I eventually had to quit the job so I could ride more!

    I've noticed some defensiveness among my friends/acquaintances, but they always seem relieved (and maybe a little scornful) when I tell them that I generally don't ride in the pouring rain or in heavy snow-- then it's public transport all the way. I think that some people feel guilty (for whatever reason), and the self-righteousness of some of the cycling brethren doesn't help matters.

    Never had someone make a preemptive apology, though. Weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornbiker View Post
    I'm one of those who wishes I could commute, and misses the days when I could.
    Just not enough to move your house and job closer together...

    As soon as someone starts the sob story, my brain shuts off. I literally stop listening to them and walk away shortly afterwards. To listen would mean I'd be forced to call them on their lame-ass excuse.

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