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Old 08-20-07, 09:13 AM   #1
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biker rage...

On my bike commute in this morning to my job I had my first incidence of biker rage, at least that's what I think it was.

I passed a guy starting up a hill, however, he caught up to me a little further up the hill as it started to level out. I had my music on and heard something behind me so I pulled one of the earpieces out. As he tried to pass me again he mumbled something about me going way to fast for this city and to get out of town for going that fast and that I needed to slow down. Upon catching up to me he was pointing his finger (not flipping me the bird) saying something else and to "get going slow-poke".

I just did the best thing possible, I said "huh?" and kept pedalling on.
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Old 08-20-07, 09:33 AM   #2
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Sounds like a plain old-fashioned nutjob to me, rather than "biker rage".
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You probably blew by the guy and surprised him and it pissed him off. I've done the same thing before when I was almost run off the road by another biker without warning.
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My commute is short so I like to go as fast as possible, but I always try to give any other cyclists as much room as possible when I pass them.
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Another vote here for the idea that you upset him and that is the only way he knows how to handle himself.

He has probably worked hard for years to get up that hill without walking his bike, and you blow by him like it's flat and made him jealous. And that is how he reacted.

Don't take it personally (although that is hard not to do sometimes).
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good thing I can't hear very well to hear people clearly. I'm only 34 and partially deaf from playing percussion in a garage band 20 years ago.

Thing is I did yell on your left when I was coming up behind him...oh well
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Wow, where in Idaho did that happen? Sounds like he has more issues than being passed on a hill.

+1 to saying "on your left" when you pass a cyclist or pedestrian, whether you're on a street or MUP. Sounds like you did what you could.
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Old 08-20-07, 01:08 PM   #8
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A woman biker in Dallas recently got cut several times with a box knife - apparetnly for not getting over far enough when another biker said, "On your left". He rammed her and knocked her down, then cut her up. Mechanics at the LBS called cops when a guy fitting the description brought his bike in to get fixed and said he'd broken it in a fight, and the guy was arrested. Lotta "Bike Rage comments around that. Those comments had the curious effect of making me change my behavior a bit on the bike trail where I commute.

When I thought about it, I had been recently generating a bit of nasty attitude at walkers, skaters and slower riders who didn't conform to my own little idea of trail etiquette. Nothing overt, just a mean feeling, and maybe not moving over as far as I could as I blew past. I realized I was just begining to act like the car drivers I hate so much on the road.

A Class II Chill Order is now in full effect.
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A woman biker in Dallas recently got cut several times with a box knife - apparetnly for not getting over far enough when another biker said, "On your left". He rammed her and knocked her down, then cut her up.
This is pretty sad. The main reason I took up bike commuting is because I noticed I was getting too aggravated and angry when I drove my car to and from work because of other inconsiderate moronic drivers. The bike rides gave me an outlet and so far mostly cagers have made me angry. There were a couple of times another cyclist got under my skin, ie weavers and sidewalk riders who suddenly get in your path. But after my obligatory dirty look I usually let it pass right away.
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I passed a guy on the path once and he made this comment about how he had a fixed gear and that is why I was able to pass. WTF I was just doing my own thing.
Geez like I could care. Some people just can't handle exertion of any sort its too painful and they go crazy. Kind of like the people that are always complaining that you don't wave at them on demand. Look I may just be a introvert have you ever thought of that?
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Old 08-20-07, 02:34 PM   #11
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Wow, where in Idaho did that happen? Sounds like he has more issues than being passed on a hill.

+1 to saying "on your left" when you pass a cyclist or pedestrian, whether you're on a street or MUP. Sounds like you did what you could.
it happened this morning on the greenbelt coming up to where Irving St meets up with Orchard. Right past where you ride over the canal diversion station area on the old RR grade/bridge


Now as for the other stuff with the box knife, I can't even imagine that happening because of someone not moving far enough over. I try to be as pacificistic as possible.
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There are a lot of people out there who are off their meds. Be careful.
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Old 08-20-07, 04:33 PM   #13
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Pedestrian rage, from Leah Garchik's SF Chronicle column today:
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as I walked down Powell toward Market the other day, I heard a nicely dressed woman snap the words, "I don't drive, but what's it to you?" to a nicely dressed man walking behind her. Apparently, she had walked in front of what he considered to be his path, and he had said he hoped she didn't drive like that. It was around 9 a.m., the streets weren't crowded, and there was plenty of room for both; nonetheless, there was sidewalk rage. Their comments back and forth grew more heated, and as she got onto the escalator down to BART, with him a few steps behind, I heard her ask, "Do you enjoy being such an a-hole?" to which he responded ... By then I had passed, curious about the outcome of this fight but glad I wasn't headed onto a BART car with the two of them.
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It sounds like he had issue with being passed on a hill by someone who he ended up catching up to on the same hill... Perhaps you got in front of him and then ultimately (due to the hill) slowed down? I know I get a little irritated when someone does that. It makes you wonder why someone sped up and passed you just to slow down again.
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it happened this morning on the greenbelt coming up to where Irving St meets up with Orchard. Right past where you ride over the canal diversion station area on the old RR grade/bridge


Now as for the other stuff with the box knife, I can't even imagine that happening because of someone not moving far enough over. I try to be as pacificistic as possible.
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Prime bum hangout in that area. Be careful.
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It sounds like he had issue with being passed on a hill by someone who he ended up catching up to on the same hill... Perhaps you got in front of him and then ultimately (due to the hill) slowed down? I know I get a little irritated when someone does that. It makes you wonder why someone sped up and passed you just to slow down again.
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I try not to pass people if they will just have to pass me again. That said, it is no excuse for rage of any kind.
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This morning I was coming up on a guy crossing a bridge, my water bottle (it's metal) was making some noise and he turned to see me and then started riding faster. I was doing 35kph already and passed him easily. He yelled at me that I shouldn't pass other cyclists and then passed me pedaling as fast as his bike would take him, when he did he yelled "How do you like it?".

I just let him ride on thinking himself the big man, I could care less about getting passed.
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This morning I was coming up on a guy crossing a bridge, my water bottle (it's metal) was making some noise and he turned to see me and then started riding faster. I was doing 35kph already and passed him easily. He yelled at me that I shouldn't pass other cyclists and then passed me pedaling as fast as his bike would take him, when he did he yelled "How do you like it?".

I just let him ride on thinking himself the big man, I could care less about getting passed.
You should have raced him.
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A woman biker in Dallas recently got cut several times with a box knife - apparetnly for not getting over far enough when another biker said, "On your left". He rammed her and knocked her down, then cut her up.
I wish I had been there when it happened.

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Mechanics at the LBS called cops when a guy fitting the description brought his bike in to get fixed and said he'd broken it in a fight, and the guy was arrested.
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Lotta "Bike Rage comments around that. Those comments had the curious effect of making me change my behavior a bit on the bike trail where I commute.

When I thought about it, I had been recently generating a bit of nasty attitude at walkers, skaters and slower riders who didn't conform to my own little idea of trail etiquette. Nothing overt, just a mean feeling, and maybe not moving over as far as I could as I blew past. I realized I was just begining to act like the car drivers I hate so much on the road.

A Class II Chill Order is now in full effect.
Good job on your part.
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You should have raced him.
Well the thought did cross my mind but we were in full traffic and the road was wet from the rain and fog.
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On my bike commute in this morning to my job I had my first incidence of biker rage, at least that's what I think it was.

I passed a guy starting up a hill, however, he caught up to me a little further up the hill as it started to level out. I had my music on and heard something behind me so I pulled one of the earpieces out. As he tried to pass me again he mumbled something about me going way to fast for this city and to get out of town for going that fast and that I needed to slow down. Upon catching up to me he was pointing his finger (not flipping me the bird) saying something else and to "get going slow-poke".

I just did the best thing possible, I said "huh?" and kept pedalling on.
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You should have raced him.
I did race the roadie that passed me on my ride home. I was doing 38kph when he passed me so I caught up to him and did my best to look bored as I passed him. He smiled and stood up in his pedals and passed me, we were doing nearly 50kph when he signaled that he had to turn. It was fun!
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