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    Well, it finally happened. We got a little rain today, but not a lot, which made the streets pretty slick. The nice thing about the rain, was that it cooled things down a bit. I guess riding in 100 degree weather conditioned me somewhat because i was flying. I guess flying is relative, but i was going much faster than usual. Anyways, i broke the cardinal rule and decided to avoid a line of cars by getting on the sidewalk and cutting through a gas station. Dumb move. Crossing onto the sidewalk, i didnt notice the "lip" since it was covered by a little water-and i fell. Got back up, composed myself and proceeded through the gas station...slick oil...down again. It sucked the energy right out of me and made me somewhat skittish. Now i felt like i was riding on a sheet of ice. My questions are-which tire performs in wet weather and did crashing affect your style of riding? I have to add that i havent fallen off of a bike in years and i mt bike quite frequently too.
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    My Conti 2000s perform awesome in the wet or dry, however, they aren't the most rugged for commuting.

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    No tire is going to work well on an oil slick. I have never had a "bad" tire for wet riding, if anything the more aggressive the tread the worse it will be on wet pavement, mainly due to reduced contact patch. One of the reasons there are so many car crashes when it first starts raining is because the rain lifts the oil off the pavement and causes slick spots on the roadways (remember oil floats on water) after a while the oil washes down and the roads are less slick. As a general rule I will always slow down when it is raining.

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    I just fell off for the first time in years the other day. went to turn around in a parking lot, it was blacktop, it didn't look that new, but ws slick as ice. I just fell right over when I went to turn around. It made me take more care when in parking lots.
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    Rain I've not had issues with, if anything I just go slower and/or ride more cautiously. I don't have any particular brand to recommend.

    I fell over today due to a still-clipped-in slamdunk. Was just talking to someone on the phone and had my "out" foot down, and just over balanced the wrong way, and seemed to just resign myself to falling despite the fact that I think I could've saved it, weird.

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    On pavement you're not going to do better than slicks. It's all about contact area. Lower tire pressure will help.
    IMHO, tread is only good for two things; gripping loose material (gravel/dirt/mud/snow/ice) and on cars, channeling water away to avoid hydroplaning. You don't have to worry about hydroplaning on a bike; your PSI on the contact patch is huge and your speeds are slow compared to a car.

    So if you're on pavement, slicks is going to be your best bet.

    But as someone said, nothing's going to help versus an oil patch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flimflam View Post
    Rain I've not had issues with, if anything I just go slower and/or ride more cautiously. I don't have any particular brand to recommend.
    There is your answer................. it's NOT the tires.

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    thanks...i guess i was just overzealous with the nice weather.
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    ive gone down on more than one occasion in the rain. i have started staying more upright in the turns when the road is wet and i also avoid paint like the plague. thats about the only real advice i can give you. wet roads have certainly gained my respect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flimflam View Post
    Rain I've not had issues with, if anything I just go slower and/or ride more cautiously. I don't have any particular brand to recommend.

    I fell over today due to a still-clipped-in slamdunk. Was just talking to someone on the phone and had my "out" foot down, and just over balanced the wrong way, and seemed to just resign myself to falling despite the fact that I think I could've saved it, weird.
    What were you doing talking on the phone while biking!?!?!?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by brew View Post
    avoid paint like the plague
    I avoid manholes covers like the plague after someone at my university ended up with more metal in his elbow than bone after slipping on one.

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    It happens. You have to slow down. Also I just wouldn't cut through a gas station on account of the oil slicks. Have you ever noticed there is one at every single pump? It is the same reason I won't ride through parking spots, there is usually a slick at one if not both ends of the spot. Now if I could just find a way to avoid the one in my driveway I could be oil slick free.

    Watch out for wet leaves those are the things that have taken me out more than anything else. On the plus side I've noticed that sliding on wet pavement usually results in much less scraping and loss of skin; which I guess is the silver lining.

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    Avoid painted markings on the road, metal covers/grates, and definitely cellular telephone usage. Tires with sufficient silica content also seem to help. Best of luck and keep the shiny side up!

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    Depending on how long between rains, it can be super slick because of oily buildup on the roads. Here in Southern California, it tends to not rain all Summer. So by the time it does rain in the Fall, that first rain is like ice because all the oily buildup gets washed away.

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    +1 on riding more carefully. I'm not nearly as paranoid about wet pavement as about snow/slush, but I do tone down my riding style a little. I'd say I go just as fast on straight sections (even riding on painted lines and metal covers), but am really careful with any leans or turns. Worked for me so far. *knocks on wood*
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    Don't eat while riding either. I went down last winter while eating a sandwich. Encountered a sheet of ice.

    There is almost nothing you can do with an oil slick. I went down a couple of weeks ago on my nice bike due to an oil slick. The road rash is still healing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quittaboy View Post
    What were you doing talking on the phone while biking!?!?!?!
    Well I expected this, and I know it's wrong, but I did it anyway (just like rolling a stop, or occasional reds - calculated risks). I was telling the guy whose office I just pulled up to that I was there - it was minimal/no danger to make the call, and I was only going walking speed or slower (which is why I fell in the first place - I just didn't balance myself to the proper side). I have and probably will again ride while on the phone, but that's my call - usually I pull over, sometimes I don't.

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    sorry to hear you went down. ouch.
    As others have said, no tire will do too well on an oil slick....
    that said, I've used a half dozen or so slicks, and they all act a bit different in the rain. My current Marathons feel the best, very secure in the wet. The Nimbus Armadillo were probably the worst in the wet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quittaboy View Post
    What were you doing talking on the phone while biking!?!?!?!
    i yak on the phone while biking occasionally too. just slow it down & pay attention... it's okay, it's okay...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flimflam View Post
    Flame away if that's what makes you feel better. It's not going to change what I do.
    I'll just flame you for not mounting a bluetooth headset in your helmet. Hands-free voice dialing. Yak without slowing down. Keep your phone packed away dry in downpours. All of this can be yours.

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    I too get skittish on wet pavement. I jsut about slid into the back of a big truck the other day when my tires hit some really smooth ashphalt.
    3 years commuting while there's no snow on the ground. 20km round trip.
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    What's the point of a bike if you can only ride it on weekends, and you can't even carry anything with you?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tabor View Post
    I avoid manholes covers like the plague after someone at my university ended up with more metal in his elbow than bone after slipping on one.
    +1
    I ended up sliding through and intersection on my leg after trying to turn on a manhole in the rain. Just scrapes and bruises, nothing broken.
    3 years commuting while there's no snow on the ground. 20km round trip.
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    What's the point of a bike if you can only ride it on weekends, and you can't even carry anything with you?!

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    rain = cautious cornering. other than that I pretty much ride the same way in the rain as I do when it's dry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marburg99 View Post
    Crossing onto the sidewalk, i didnt notice the "lip" since it was covered by a little water-and i fell. Got back up, composed myself and proceeded through the gas station...slick oil...down again. It sucked the energy right out of me and made me somewhat skittish. Now i felt like i was riding on a sheet of ice.
    That sucks. Last time I had a ride where I lost my wheels so much I was riding on...well...a sheet of ice last winter. Talk about an excessively un-fun commute.

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