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Old 09-12-07, 12:49 PM
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If I felt I had to documnet every step of my travel for my own safety/potential legal action I would stay home.
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Old 09-12-07, 05:31 PM
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I bought a camera recenty, and use it on my commute. Recording evidence is certainly one of the reasons I bought it, but I'm not silly enough to pester the police with every minor infraction I happen to record. I'll reserve that option for actual collisions or other comparably serious incidents.

Otherwise, I'm with noisebeam - it's a handy way to explain things. If a picture is worth a thousand words, a video is worth a million. (I kinda wish Helmet Head would get one, actually).

They're also a good way to show off a bit, and who doesn't like to do that occasionally.
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Originally Posted by Sigurdd50
So why perpetuate the litigative mentality by video taping your actions..
There's a difference between pursuing litigation, and providing evidence of illegal behaviour to the police. I haven't seen any suggestions of the former in this thread, only the latter.
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Old 09-12-07, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxximum
Would you use a helmet camera daily on your commute if it were given to you for free?
Are you offering?
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Again it is not to perpetuate litigative mentality, nor any litigocentric view of society. But regardless, society is so entrenched in legal matters because we are legal entities in the social organism, and often human behaviour can only be judged and controlled by the laws.

Recording evidence offers one deeper level of protection, despite not being physical protection, it can bring truth to light. Where I am from, and similar to many other major cities, the police really don't care, and really don't have the time for de minimis. At least not unless the gravity of the situation can be expressed through video. Most police are motorist minded. The situations or incidents that I can sometime encounter are not minor, nor trivial. I don't intend on bringing forth useless and minor incidents to the police, but deeper and more disconcerting and criminal behaviours or actions. A motorist cutting too deep, or intentionally running a cyclist off the road, or dooring a cyclist can and will cause bodily harm. And too many times this happens, but the assailant drives off. What message does this send? Are cyclists subhuman? Do people lose all rights once they saddle up on a bicycle? Maybe not, but most cases this is how they are treated.

Video brings truth when motorists intend harm, or bring forth unwanted hazards, intentional or not. Motorists will lie. Not to say that cyclists won't either. They will bend the truth to their advantage. This is human nature when someone stands accused. Video will wash away the subjectivity, maybe not all of it, but quite a bit. Not for trivial quibbles, "get on the sidewalk," or "buy a car you bum!", but for criminal negligience with intent to cause bodily harm.
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Originally Posted by Allister
I bought a camera recenty, and use it on my commute. Recording evidence is certainly one of the reasons I bought it, but I'm not silly enough to pester the police with every minor infraction I happen to record. I'll reserve that option for actual collisions or other comparably serious incidents.

Otherwise, I'm with noisebeam - it's a handy way to explain things. If a picture is worth a thousand words, a video is worth a million. (I kinda wish Helmet Head would get one, actually).

They're also a good way to show off a bit, and who doesn't like to do that occasionally.
Which one did you buy?
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I'd think that if someone sees you riding down the street with a big ol' helmet cam on your noggin they'll think twice about throwing stuff at you because you MIGHT have it on and recording, and you MIGHT catch them in the act, and you MIGHT be able to DO something about it after they've sped off.

So it could have a deterrent factor.

That being said, I ride pretty safely, and don't have any problems with that stuff... I think it'd be cool to have one, but they're still pretty expensive, and most of what I'd be videotaping would be me breaking various and sundry vehicle laws and filtering. Oh well, that link filtering video did look pretty neat (I like Cake) and it's probably what I would have done. The video is so grainy that you couldn't have gotten a plate number if that's what you had the camera for, but its still cool.
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Originally Posted by Maxximum
Btw, is there any charge for someone who doors a cyclist? Criminal Negligence? Commonlaw negligence causing bodily harm?

If in UK see https://www.traffic-answers.co.uk/for...p?topic=5638.0
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Originally Posted by n4zou
I use a ead to new and smaller dedicated helmet cameras were not available then.
Wireless helmet camera

nice site
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Originally Posted by wheel
nice site
yeah, here too. i thought the wireless idea with a transmitter was pretty neato

unfortunately, the quality is really terrible

but imagine in 5 years as image sensors get even smaller, and more light sensitive whoopiee!
big brother here we come! hee heeh ee



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I use a DIY handlebar cam
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Originally Posted by rocks in head
I'd think that if someone sees you riding down the street with a big ol' helmet cam on your noggin they'll think twice about throwing stuff at you because you MIGHT have it on and recording, and you MIGHT catch them in the act, and you MIGHT be able to DO something about it after they've sped off.

So it could have a deterrent factor.
Do you honestly think that someone can simultaneously be enough of a stupid pig-animal to throw something out the window of a car at someone, and smart enough to recognize a helmet cam even if it were to bonk them on the noggin?
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