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Old 09-28-07, 11:28 PM   #1
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Dutch bike for purchase in the US? (That's not an Amsterdam)

I ideally just want the basics (frame, fork, skirtguard, chainguard, fenders) and build it up from there but that seems like a long shot so I'm open to prebuilts.
Frame should be a womens step through and should be everything the Electra Amsterdam is without the steep price

Any tips on procurement?
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Old 09-28-07, 11:51 PM   #2
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Look into the Pake bikes. Complete ones with the 6spd are as low as $350 or less. Frame and fork is likely available as well. It is a steel frame. The handle bars are the curved in Albatross.

Otherwise, I dont know how you can just buy the frame, fork, and some other minor items for the "real thing" Dutch wise?
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Clever Cycles, here in Portland, has Dutch bikes, and would likely ship to you. But real Dutch bikes are more than double the cost of the Electra. The Pake sounds like it's closer to what you're after...
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Have you looked at http://batavus.com ? A Dutch bike manufacturer that sells in the US. One thing you will notice that Electras are more 'Dutch' than the current Dutch models. With that I mean that Dutch manufacturers have evolved, whereas the Electra is more traditional Dutch.
You may be hard pressed to find this as a frame set, because that is not how these bikes are typically marketed. The target demographics are not like roadies, who feel the need to have control over every single component

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Clever Cycles has many Dutch bikes I drool over at least once a month. I must walk in and get my fill.

Isnt there a Jorg and Olif ? They have a steel traditional Dutch bike that has the 3 spd internal gears, a full enclosed chain guard (but it is plastic like Breezer Uptown 8's) and completely rust proof for $495. I know I saw it advertised recently as a "special.

Odering one and having it shipped would likely push it over $600, but at the very least it would have the frame set, bars, and fork you are likely after.

The better model traditional Dutch bikes offered, such as in Clever Cycles, have an internal 8 spd Nexus and some other nice details over the $400 entry level model. They are a pretty penny.

That Nexus hub is well worth at least $300 more. But those bikes are over $1000.

What do you want to do to "customise" these everyday, sturdy, non-sporty-laid-back-style bikes?
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The Jorg&Olif Scout Bike

http://www.jorgandolif.com/# available in 1 or 3 spd Nexus. IS there a 1 spd Nexus hub? huh??
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Look at Worksman Bikes. They let you pick and choose what you want on your frame. And if you contact them, I'd bet they would sell you a frameset.
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These guys have them. Looks like the real deal.

http://www.dutchbikes.us/

Starting at $999 for complete 3 spd.
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I was wondering if anyone could comment on the eBay dutch bikes that are being sold out of Germany. They seem price comparable to the Jorg & Oluf Scout and Electra Amsterdam after shipping.
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I was wondering if anyone could comment on the eBay dutch bikes that are being sold out of Germany. They seem price comparable to the Jorg & Oluf Scout and Electra Amsterdam after shipping.

I am not totally sure? I was wondering what brand they were. I actually emailed them one time asking where the bikes were "made". They never responded to my message. They could be the ones made in Asia for all I know. Far lower quality.
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Not dutch bikes, but may be suitable...

http://bicyclewarehouse.com/itemlist.cfm?category=63

In particular the '07 Raleigh Retroglide 7 really appeals to me...



It lacks the rack and "skirtguard," but for $315, it sure seems like a sweet deal. And the 7 speed shifter would really help "flatten" terrain.

There is a woman's stepthru model too...



Looks quite similar to the "daily bikes" I saw in Finland, less the rack, basket and skirtguard... In Finland they retailed for 459 Euros... So this 315 USD seems quite nice.
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Wait for Gary Fisher Simple City. People say it'll be released in January.
3-speed will retail for $400, 8-speed for $800


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To be honest, $700 for the amsterdam is reasonable. Go to holland and a brand new 6 speed will be at least 650 euros (900 USD).

http://www.workcycles.com/workbike/b...dies-bike.html

Jorg and olif retail for C$ 1000 and up (which is now 1000 USD and up).

The Pake and Raliegh's above are cheaper, but don't come with skirt guard and I'm not sure if you'll be able to put one on since they have rim brakes. You also can't get a fully enclosed chainguard with an external hub.

*edit* just checked out Jorg and Olif, it seems like they've realized their original pricing was a little too extravagant, that Scout is good and cheap.
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Believe it or don't, Schwinn has a 3spd thats just like many Amsterdam bikes for cheap! If old Ralieghs, Dunelts, etc. didn't go for <$100, I'd get one of these.

http://www.schwinnbike.com/products/...il.php?id=1027
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Hmmmmm the resurgence of the "Sensible bike."

About time America... sheesh.
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Wait for Gary Fisher Simple City. People say it'll be released in January.
3-speed will retail for $400, 8-speed for $800
What's with this price gouging?
The cost difference between a 3 speed Shimano hub and an 8 speed Shimano hub is at MOST $150 and the installation of an 8 speed requires no more effort or hardware than a 3 speed does
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What's with this price gouging?
It's just an estimate. Probably, the price will depend on the options like the basket.

More information about the Simple City:
http://commutebybike.com/2007/09/26/...e-city-update/
http://bicycledesign.blogspot.com/20...ockart-sr.html

What’s going on with the Gary Fisher Simple City?

I asked that question at the Outdoor Demo and was told that the bike will be available in January or February. Apparently the response across the net was way more than they expected so they’re moving fast on it. Not sure what the retail will be but you’ll know when I know.

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wow - great selection of bikes on this thread !

too bad I bought my heavy duty cruiser a while ago or I would jump on some of these great bikes.
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Believe it or don't, Schwinn has a 3spd thats just like many Amsterdam bikes for cheap! If old Ralieghs, Dunelts, etc. didn't go for <$100, I'd get one of these.

http://www.schwinnbike.com/products/...il.php?id=1027
Hopefully they are made more like Classic Schwinns and not like a newer Target bike. The albatross bars and kick back gears are major highlights. I want to check one out.
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What's with this price gouging?
What if it's not 8-speed but 9-speed?
SRAM i-Motion goes in Europe for more than $300.
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