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Old 09-30-07, 08:19 AM   #1
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Yet another fender fender question

I have decided that I really need fenders on my bike for my commute (the ride home in the rain two weeks ago left a rather nice brown racing stripe on my back, but my wife was nonplussed). Anyway, I have some difficulty and I am wondering if anyone can help me. I use a 98 Cannondale F1000 mountain bike that I have put some touring tires on. I would like to get something like the planet bike fenders. I have read the manual (http://planetbike.com/files/7004-7013manual.pdf) and am not sure if I can get these to work. My bike uses Cannondale's Head Shock and there is no threaded hole in the fork. I do have dropouts, though. Anyway to get the front to attach? Also, I have V brakes so there is no brake bridge for the clip to attach to in the back and there is no threaded hole in the chain stay bridge. Is there anyway to make that work? These have to fit under a rack, but I don't imagine that there is any problem with that. I would like to be certain before I order some. Also, are the mudflaps necessary or superfluous? Thanks for the comments.

Oh, what does MUP mean? I am guessing multi use path, but I'm new here.
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Old 10-01-07, 09:02 AM   #2
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Weird, I just attached a pair of the Freddys to my bike on Saturday.

Planet Bike includes some zip ties that can be used to attach the fenders to places where there are no drilled out holes. So, you could use the zip ties to attach the front fender to your fork, and also to attach the back fender to you bike, or even the rack.

My rear fender fits nicely under my Blackburn rack.

Also, you don't need a hole in the chainstay bridge for the rear fender, as the fender uses a clip, not a bolt, for that (see step 4 for instructions).

I'd e-mail Planet Bike if you're still unsure. Since I can't see your bike, I'm not ready to say "Yes, get them." But I think they would work. You'd probably just have to do a bit more rigging than I did. Mine are on an old Trek 830, and I had no issues installing them.
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Old 10-01-07, 09:51 AM   #3
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There are two versions of the Freddy, one that clips on somehow and one that screws into the eyelets.

I'm not familiar with the clip-on job, but I think it might work for you. For the screwed-in version, my opinion is that you want to get the screws pretty tight so the fender doesn't wiggle more than necessary in turns and such, rubbing your tire and generally annoying you. The fact that you'll be putting this on a suspension fork makes that more of a problem. I personally don't think the zip-tie job would give you much stability there, not to mention that I don't know what you'd even zip it to on your fork. So I don't know if I'd go with the standard Freddy, I might get the higher-end one depending how it clips on.

The mudflaps probably aren't absolutely critical. I think they're pretty cool, but then I'm a complete dork.

MUP is in fact "multi-use path", good guess.
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Old 10-01-07, 10:44 AM   #4
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Zip ties are the preferred method at the chainstay bridge, those clips are pretty useless.
SKS fenders have a safety-release mechanism at the front, 2 plastic sockets which screw onto the fork and you push the stays into the sockets.
If you , saving your attachment system and you can simply slot the stays back in their sockets.
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Old 10-01-07, 06:35 PM   #5
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So I finally emailed Planet Bike (novel idea, isn't it?) and their reply was to use the EZ which are the type that just use zip ties. Overall they don't seem as stable but I think that they will work. My big concern on those is that anyone with a pocket knife could come along and cut them off. I use an Onguard U lock with a cable and hopefully I can run it through the hardware on these.
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Old 10-01-07, 07:01 PM   #6
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fender thieves are a problem where you live? the Wild West, eh? maybe the thieves won't notice zip ties. pick a color that blends in with your bike's paint
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I'd like to see these - would you guys mind sharing some pics?
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Well your first mistake was buying freddies instead of SKS P45 or P35 fenders.

But since you did, just use a zip tie and don't worry about it.
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Planet Bike on Cannondale with Headshock..

I had a Cannondale Silkpath 1000 with the Headshock you mentioned and 700X32 tires. The planet bikes will work. My fork had a hole in the middle that the bolt provided slips through to attach the fender and the support rods on the fenders are adjustable and fit nicely into the threaded mounts provided on the fork. The rear fender fits well too. The one end snaps into place in the center of the swingarm and both suppport rods attach easily to the as the threaded mounts provided. I had the rack, and both support fender support rods secured by the same threaded hole/braze on location. Tie wraps are provided to secure the fender at the break mount location just below the seat is no hole is available for the bolt. The bracket for the fender is a snap on type provided by planet bike. It took 1 beer and 15 minutes to attach both fenders. Good luck, Mike.
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Old 10-02-07, 02:43 PM   #10
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fender thieves are a problem where you live? the Wild West, eh? maybe the thieves won't notice zip ties. pick a color that blends in with your bike's paint
A couple of weeks ago on my ride home I slowed down to offer assistance to someone walking his bike. Turns out that someone had stolen his rear derailer (sp?) and chain. I don't carry those in my seat pack or pannier. I know that there is no perfect solution to stop thieves, but why make it easier for them? There is actually quite little theft/vandalism here given the amount of bikes; regardless, I would rather not be the statistic.


My bike issue on putting the bolt on fenders on my bike is that I do not have a hole at the top of my fork. I suppose I could drill one, just use zip ties, or just use the other style of fender. I am trying to find an LBS that has both styles so I can compare.
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A couple of weeks ago on my ride home I slowed down to offer assistance to someone walking his bike. Turns out that someone had stolen his rear derailer (sp?) and chain.
That's just disgusting - what has society sunk to?
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I think it's odd that in Missoula people are stealing parts when multi thousand dollar mountain bikes get locked up with easily clipped cables all the time.
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Turns out that someone had stolen his rear derailer (sp?) and chain.
Lesson: Always park at the top of a hill.
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I've tested out my Freddy Hardcore fenders during the last two mornings, and they really work nicely. There's very little wobble in them, there's no tire-rub or interference with the brakes, and they offer excellent protection. I've been intentionally running through the puddles, and aside from a slight amount of moisture on my shoes, I've been very dry. I definitely recommend them.
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Old 10-24-07, 01:38 PM   #15
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I put the EZ on yesterday and they went on pretty well. I still need to do some adjusting but there is some wobble in the front and bigger bumps get the fender to smack the tire. I see how these would work great with a standard suspension fork. With the headshock, though, if I did it again I would probably get the Hardcore and use zip ties at the top of the fork. I think that they will be fine so long as I can cope with the occasional tire smack.

Airosen, Planet Bike has pictures on their web page. If you want to see some EZ installed send me a PM and I can email you some pictures. Unless you were saying that you wanted pictuers of the fender thieves; they look like everybody else.
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