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Old 10-04-07, 12:23 PM   #1
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Nerds stay out!

Before I tell this little story, if you're a safety nerd hit the back button. This story is about running a red light, so if you can't read about someone running a red light without getting all preachy please move on to the next thread.

On to the story. I was sitting at a red light this morning trying my hardest to be patient and wait my turn but I just couldn't do it. There were no cars in sight except the ones sitting and waiting for the light to change. The stupid thing was ridiculously long and I just didn't see the point in sitting there for another 5 minutes. I looked left, looked right, double checked to make sure it wasn't about to change and went. Well, the guy in the truck next to me wasn't paying attention and when he saw me go, he went too. I started laughing out loud when I saw the look on his face when he realized what he was doing. He started to stop but he was already in the middle of the intersection so he just floored it. When he passed me I looked over at him laughing and he gave me the finger. I was laughing so hard I nearly fell off my bike, the finger and the pissed off look on his face just sent me over the edge.

Anybody else ever make a cager run a light?
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Old 10-04-07, 12:26 PM   #2
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I love how they blame you for their patent inattention.
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Old 10-04-07, 12:45 PM   #3
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I've recently begun crossing certain lights when they are red. One light on my commute has giant tire-eating railroad tracks about 100 yards down the road so that I have to slow way down just after I start. I'd much rather cross them with no traffic behind me or along side me.
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Old 10-04-07, 01:14 PM   #4
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I was in my cage a few years back. I had been doing server upgrades and ended up driving home about 2:30 am on a very cold winter night. I got a red light.

I waited. And waited some more. And some more. So I edge forward and look left and right. Nothing. But there is a bit of a curve to the right so I edge forward a bit more. Look right. Look left, and Look right again. Nothing coming but I see a flicker of light in my peripheral vision. An officer parked in a lot across from me had just turned on his interior light and was shaking his head. I could just hear him thinking. "You don't want to make me get out in this cold. You would not like it."

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Old 10-04-07, 01:18 PM   #5
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There is one intersection on my route that routinely has the public works department out working on the signal timing because it goes awry.

Since bicycles are vehicles, behave as one. If a traffic signal is suspected to be broken, the intersection should be treated as a stop sign, and all vehicels should proceed as such.

In the event the signal timing doesn't behoove me, I move over to the side of the road and cross as a pedestrian.

That to me is one of the benefits of biking, getting the best of both worlds.
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Old 10-04-07, 01:27 PM   #6
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Hehehe. Nice! Next time you should wait until a car is coming down the cross street, start to go across and then turn at the last moment. See if you can cause an accident.
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Old 10-04-07, 01:29 PM   #7
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In the event the signal timing doesn't behoove me, I move over to the side of the road and cross as a pedestrian.
Does it count if you make sure to move slowly through the intersection and touch the ground with your foot a couple times (like a little push-off)?
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Old 10-04-07, 01:30 PM   #8
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In the event the signal timing doesn't behoove me, I move over to the side of the road and cross as a pedestrian.
If the light is red you still have to wait as a pedestrian though... I wait for most lights but there have been times like the one described above where I've gone through.
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Old 10-04-07, 01:31 PM   #9
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All you usually have to do around these parts to get someone to run a red is honk at them.
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Old 10-04-07, 01:31 PM   #10
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One morning, I got off work after a half-overnight shift. 3am in lower Manhattan. I was riding home full speed, not even slowing down for the red lights. After a couple of blocks, I could hear a car gunning its motor behind me, running the lights too, getting closer and closer.

"What kind of nut would run lights in his car?" I thought. The answer: a very angry cop. He yelled at me but didn't stop me or give me a ticket.
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I tried this morning but I couldn't. I rolled up to a stop light at 5:45 am and a car was sitting there waiting at the red. The street we were on crossed 3 lanes southbound then another light and then 3 lanes northbound so there we sat. No less then 3 times did the dang far light turn the the close one didn't. I just went on the next go around but the car sat and sat. Oh well sorry for yah fellow.
Probably won't take the route again. I have to travel about 3 miles on a 55mph (i.e. 70mph) 6 lane road where I'm forced to take the lane and even that early it had lots of traffic.
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What intersection has such a long wait in Sandy? Are you cutting through the construction on State Street?
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Stop, signal and turn right, signal left and immediately make a U-turn, signal and turn right again.

And unlike my car, it's really easy to do with just two wide lanes on my bike.

I don't know about everywhere but it's legal here and I often get dirty looks or hollered at for pulling the manuever. I don't recall anybody ever giving me the finger though. They just say darn, heck, flip, or fetch. It's a Utah thing and I don't know who they think they're fooling.

My steel commuter actually triggers the two lights I hit on my way to work but one of them usually involves a long wait regardless of whether or not it's been triggered. Unfortunately, that's the one I use to cross Highway 91 and the U-turn thing is a really bad idea at that time of day.

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Old 10-04-07, 01:37 PM   #14
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At some point it's only reasonable to conclude the light isn't working properly and proceed when safe. That other fellow played lemming is his own problem.
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Funny....but, you're a d*ck for laughing at the guy.
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Funny....but, you're a d*ck for laughing at the guy.
Why? It's not his fault the guy ran a red light.
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Stop, signal and turn right, signal left and immediately make a U-turn, signal and turn right again.

And unlike my car, it's really easy to do with just two wide lanes on my bike.

I don't know about everywhere but it's legal here and I often get dirty looks or hollered at for pulling the manuever. I don't recall anybody ever giving me the finger though. They just say darn, heck, flip, or fetch. It's a Utah thing and I don't know who they think they're fooling.

My steel commuter actually triggers the two lights I hit on my way to work but one of them usually involves a long wait regardless of whether or not it's been triggered. Unfortunately, that's the one I use to cross Highway 91 and the U-turn thing is a really bad idea at that time of day.

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I did that in my car once, late at night. But the light changed on me halfway through, and I had to wait even longer. (I was turning right on red to go left, if that makes any sense.)

Fortunately, now I don't come anywhere near a stoplight on my commute.
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I have to admit, I run reds all the time on the bike, as a pedestrian, and occasionally as a cager as well.

I walk, cycle, and drive safe. But I run reds when safe. The light system is an arbitrary way to obtain safe intersections. if there's no approaching cross traffic, it is safe regardless what the light (or the law) says.

I've been stopped in the car a couple times for "California stops" rolling through stopsigns, but explained my position on safety, and the fact I'm usually on a bicycle, to the officer. they let me off every time. a decent officer is safety-minded as well. In fatc, when walking away from the car, the officer always says "drive safe". I do.

I am very cognizant and aware of safety, both at work (plant environment) and in my private life.

be safe, but I don't worry much about following an arbitrary law just cause it's a law. it's a mindset, it requires thought and attention, not blind obedience to a system of rules.

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Why? It's not his fault the guy ran a red light.
What a non sequitor...

He didn't say it was his fault, he said the OP was a dick for laughing and I agree, seems to have that "holier than thou" attitude going on
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Heh, who said I was in Sandy? I was half way to work on 8th south and maybe 300 west. 'Cides, all the lights in this state are long. As a result everyone runs yellows, so the yellow light lasts forever and more and more people try to beat it. If that weren't bad enough, the lights aren't timed for ****. It's incredibly ********.

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Before I tell this little story, if you're a safety nerd hit the back button. This story is about running a red light, so if you can't read about someone running a red light without getting all preachy please move on to the next thread.

On to the story. I was sitting at a red light this morning trying my hardest to be patient and wait my turn but I just couldn't do it. There were no cars in sight except the ones sitting and waiting for the light to change. The stupid thing was ridiculously long and I just didn't see the point in sitting there for another 5 minutes. I looked left, looked right, double checked to make sure it wasn't about to change and went. Well, the guy in the truck next to me wasn't paying attention and when he saw me go, he went too. I started laughing out loud when I saw the look on his face when he realized what he was doing. He started to stop but he was already in the middle of the intersection so he just floored it. When he passed me I looked over at him laughing and he gave me the finger. I was laughing so hard I nearly fell off my bike, the finger and the pissed off look on his face just sent me over the edge.

Anybody else ever make a cager run a light?
A lot of the lights around here don't even turn green if you're on a bike. Both my campus lights and the ones outside work will remain red all day until a car pulls up to them. I'll just either hit the pedestrian button to force them, or ride through when its clear.
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Heh, who said I was in Sandy? I was half way to work on 8th south and maybe 300 west. 'Cides, all the lights in this state are long. As a result everyone runs yellows, so the yellow light lasts forever and more and more people try to beat it. If that weren't bad enough, the lights aren't timed for ****. It's incredibly ********.



I said NERDS STAY OUT!
Then what are you doing in here?
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Awesome!

My morning commute starts before 6:00am and there's little traffic. I'd consider myself a safety nerd, but I give a stop light about 30 seconds. Then, once it's clear, I just go for it. If I need to turn left on a through-traffic green, I just go even if my left turn is red. I simply don't have time for stupid stuff like that.

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Only once. Some ricer with some punk-ass passengers was revving at me at a red-light-camera enforced intersection. I was in the right lane, these ****** canoes in the left. I revved hard, then peeled out and turned right. They blew through the red light, thinking I was racing them. I saw the bright flash of the red-light camera in my rear view.
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