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    Gazelle Bicycles

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    I saw an Electra the other night. Looked pretty shiny. Not the kind of bike I'd have parked outdoors at that hour.

    JesseDuncan:I just love how "cars will be forced to cross the double yellow lines on dangerous limited visibility roads".

    I don't want to have a head on but oh god, I HAVE to fling myself into oncoming traffic to pass, theres no alternative!!!

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    Here's my Gazelle Toer Populair T3 that I picked up in Holland last week and brought back to the UK with me.

    My wife bought a Batavus Old Dutch Plus, which can be seen on the back of my car.

    I'm half Dutch and my wife is still Dutch, so it only seemed right that we had a couple of good quality, traditional styled Dutch bikes here in the UK.


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    Dead thread walking?

    My new Workcycles Kruisframe arrived a few weeks ago. It was damaged in shipping due to poor packing. That has been a chore getting straight but the dealer has been very responsive.

    Much to my regret I bought this without having examined one before. For such a premum price I really expected a premium product and am pretty disappointed in the careless workmanship on it. The rims were scratched from assembly, crummy sheet metal screws used in places, misaligned components, etc. Quick and dirty stuff that has no place on what could be a very nice bike. They did not even bother to put the headbadge on straight, so I replaced it with something better.

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    Comfy for my injured back
    Cane Creek Thud-buster elastomer suspended seat Post

    (though spring Brooks may be the look you seek.. )
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    AH, Dutch style bikes. One day! Until then, I can always drool over them

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    The final installment of my Gazelle Toer Populair T3 after it was washed and polished following it's journey from Holland to England.

    I figured that it is unlikely to look this good again, so better get some video footage while it's still quite new.


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    Would just like to point out that Pashley is a British manufacturer. the reason their bikes are a little pricey is easy to understand - They are all hand-built here in Blighty (Stratford-Upon-Avon to be precise).

    Pashley Cycles is England's longest established bicycle manufacturer. Founded in 1926 and based in Stratford-upon-Avon, our dedicated team design and hand-build a unique range of specialist bicycles and tricycles.
    They also make the Royal Mail's Delivery bikes - http://www.pashley.co.uk/products/mailstar.html
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    Steamer, that bike is gorgeous. The music is fitting, too. That almost completely represents my ideal "one day" bike, with the exception that I don't like bottle dynamos (because I will break the thing, and it will suck).

    What's the gearing like? And why's the two circled on the thumb shifter? Also, fabric for the chain case and wheel guard? Is that a tradition thing or is there an advantage to having fabric?

    CaptCarrot - true that. That's why I feel the price is more "realistic". These are done by actual bike people.

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    Hi M,

    I am not completely sure why the 2 has a circle around it on the gear shifter, but I did questing the gearing between my 3-speed model and the single speed model and was told that the single speed model has the same gearing as my 2nd gear. Perhaps 2nd gear is considered the normal everyday gear used by most bikes in Holland and the other 2-gears (1st & 3rd) are just used to help set off of for fast cruising.

    Fabric chain and dress guards are traditional. Remember these bikes pre-date the invention of plastics! Decades later steel chain guards were produced, but fabric dress guards remained until plastic was invented.

    An advantage of fabric chain guards is that they don't easily break when the peddle of another Dutch bike presses into it. Remember, in Holland bicyle parking space is limited and families and friends tend to chain thei bikes together. This often results in the peddles pressing against each other's bikes. The current hard plastic chain guards will crack and break. Sure the fabric guards could rip or tear, but they are more forgiving and in my bikes case, more authentic.

    I take your point about the bottle dynamo, but again, it is authentic to have this dynamo. As my bicycle is mainly for recreational use, I am unlikely to use it often in the dark, so the reliability of the dynamo is less of a concern to me. Having said that, my wifes orginal childhood Cyrus Dutch bike built in 1970 and riden 32-miles to school and back, still has it's original bottle dynamo, which still works perfectly today, so I am not sure where the unreliability of bottle dynamos has come from to be honest.

    Since making the video, I have added a black cargo rack to the front of the bike. I have fitted it carefully incase I decide to return the bike back to how it is in the video, but it was given to us for my wife's new Dutch bike until her correct colour coded brown rack arrived, and now it has, it was a shame not to use it. Here is a photo of the bike taken today.

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    The marked gear is usually direct drive, in the case of my 8 speed Shimano Alfine it is gear #4 .

    It is good practice to leave IGH's in the direct drive gear when not in use.

    As for the reliability of bottle dynamo's - the dynamo itself is not usually the issue. They can have trouble slipping in wet conditions, other than that the only real problem occurs when the wheel becomes damaged and no longer runs true.

    [Edit] forgot to mention the most important part about marking the 1:1 ratio - if you have to adjust the hub or remove the wheel, set the hub and lever to the marked middle gear. Different manufacturers use different methods but the end result is the same. It's like a kind of neutral, except it's still in gear - just no pressure being exerted on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptCarrot View Post
    [Edit] forgot to mention the most important part about marking the 1:1 ratio - if you have to adjust the hub or remove the wheel, set the hub and lever to the marked middle gear. Different manufacturers use different methods but the end result is the same. It's like a kind of neutral, except it's still in gear - just no pressure being exerted on it.
    No. On SA 3spds,they're set to 3rd when you remove them;you have to slack the cable(3rd gear) to disconnect it. Shimano's older 3spd(without the shift box) and 4/7/8spd Nexus/Alfine hubs are shifted into first to slack their cable;they're put in direct drive(4th) to adjust the shift cable. There also isn't any reason to keep a hub in the direct drive gear when not in use. In fact,if you wanted to get picky,it's probably best to put it whichever gear slacks the cable to reduce wear on the hub and shifter springs. When a hub isn't in use,there's no wear going on inside.

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    I heard the same. When setting up the small gear chain, select 3rd gear and then tighten the gear chain so that it is just under tension and hey presto everything works perfectly.

    The mechanic in Rotterdam definitely said that 2nd gear is the same gearing as a Dutch bike with no gears.
    When we cycled to Roermond and back (32-miles) with other people, some of which had bikes with no gears, the pace left me in 2nd gear most of the way, so this seems about right what the mechanic said.

    It also seems to make sense leaving the bike in whichever gear puts no/ little tension on the gear selector & cable and in my case, that is 3rd gear.

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    There is a Texas custom city bike builder in Austin Texas, that handbuilds high quality city bikes with prices to match. I drool over two of their models: the Pa Ferguson and LaSalle Randonneur.



    Pa Ferguson

    There is even an Extracycle custom version called the Fergulong if you want a city bike with humungous cargo-carrying capacity.



    LaSalle Randonneur

    This beautiful bike is inspired by the classic "constructeur" bikes made by Alex Singer and Rene Herse in France in the 1940s and 1950s.

    Two great classic hand-built city bikes to choose from. If I had the money, I'd get one or maybe two. They're too beautiful not to have in a bike stable.

    More here about the company:

    Violet Crown Cycles: About the Company
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    Check Achielle aswel, from Belgium, making Dutch bikes:
    Achielle 2012 :: Classic - Vintage - Nostalgic

    You can make them custom aswel

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    OP is in PDX Clever Cycles Imports Azors , so they can go test ride them, in person..

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