Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Commuting
Reload this Page >

Have you worn it out?

Search
Notices
Commuting Bicycle commuting is easier than you think, before you know it, you'll be hooked. Learn the tips, hints, equipment, safety requirements for safely riding your bike to work.

Have you worn it out?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-06-07, 10:05 AM
  #1  
Keeping A Low Profile
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Atascadero, California
Posts: 160

Bikes: Specialized Hardrock Sport [1998], Dahon Speed P8 2007, 1994 Diamond Back Ascent and a couple of Schwinn Stingrays [one boys, one girls] from circa 1977.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Have you worn it out?

I'm just getting back into riding after many years of non-activity. In my youth I rode my 3-speed Schwinn to school and to deliver newspapers after school. I was never a high-performance biker, doubt if I even put much over 1k miles on all my youthful bikes combined. Any bike I ever owned always had the original parts, including tires [but probably new tubes] and brake pads when I got rid of it.

Reading this forum made me aware that many of you die-hard bikers put upwards of 10k miles on your bikes a year. Amazing!

So I got to wondering . . . if you ride any given bike those distances do you go thru several sets of tires, how many brake pads, do you wear out a rim from brake wear, how about the chain, what about the sprockets?

I realize there are many variables: different types of riding stress the various parts more or less. But surely some generalizations can be made.

Thanks,

DON
dwood is offline  
Old 11-06-07, 10:17 AM
  #2  
Trans-Urban Velocommando
 
ax0n's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Lenexa, KS
Posts: 2,400

Bikes: 06 Trek 1200 - 98 DB Outlook - 99 DB Sorrento

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Obviously this is just my experience, no one else's.

Pads on V-Brakes last about 750 miles for me.
Pads on yoked cantilevers, about 1500.
Pads on road calipers, about 2,000 miles.

My chains last about 2000 miles before they get stretched to the point where it's reasonable to change them.

I have replaced 2 sprockets. One due to wear on an old bike I bnought used - no clue how many miles. The other, because I needed different gearing. I haven't worn a cassette out, nor chainrings. I have over 3,000 miles on my road bike.

I don't have enough miles to tell you much about bottom brackets or hub bearings, but it's my guess that quality components (shifters, derailleurs, headset, wheel bearings, etc) would last close to 10,000 road/path/recreation miles unless they're being abused either with lack of maintenance or crashes, hard riding, etc. Hard duty use (racing, off-road) could decrease the number substantially, I'm sure.


At the end of the day, the only things I'd really expect to last forever on one of my bikes is the frame, fork, stem and handlebars. 10 years and 30,000+ miles from now, I'm sure a frame will be fine. Everything else will have been replaced time and again, most likely.
ax0n is offline  
Old 11-06-07, 11:10 AM
  #3  
M_S
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 3,693
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
With anal cleaning and obsessive non-cross chaining, a chain can go for a really long time. But usually yeah, about 2-3000 miles per chain. depends on the chain and conditions in which it's ridden, I suppose. A chain on a dedicated foul weather bike might last only 1000 miles.
M_S is offline  
Old 11-06-07, 11:20 AM
  #4  
Cat None
 
SDRider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: San Diego
Posts: 4,508

Bikes: LOOK KG 461, LeMond Zurich, Giant Talon 29er 0

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I have about 4k miles on one bike and about 2k miles on another. I've gone through a couple sets of tires, no brake pads, and no chains (althought the bike with 4k miles is borderline-I probably have about 2.5-3k miles on that chain so I should probably just buy a new one and be done with it). I have yet to wear out a set of wheels but I have a few spare sets I can use as backup if needed and I can easily move them from bike to bike because the groups are similar enough that I could use the same wheels with just a cassette change.
SDRider is offline  
Old 11-06-07, 11:33 AM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 909

Bikes: Kona Jake (2006)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I have about 3K miles on my main bike.
Changed the canti brake pads after 1,400 miles, and about to do so again.
Changed the tires at 1,400 miles as well, not b/c they were worn but I wanted slicker rubber.
Just had the drivetrain replaced (crank/bb/cassette/chain) due to a warranty issue with the crank. I would have gone a bit longer on it otherwise, but it was nearing time.
knucklesandwich is offline  
Old 11-06-07, 11:36 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
reiffert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 135
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Usually a good idea to replace rear cogs after about 4 chains (2-3K miles each). Sometimes the improvement in shifting is pretty amazing. With decent maintenance chainrings can go through 2-4 sets of cogs.

Fenders make a difference in trash on chain cogs, and rings, but the driveline is pretty exposed so regular cleaning will increase mileage, keep it quieter, improve shifting, help prevent indelible leg tattoos.

Also, regular cleaning of driveline makes it easier to clean and check things like rims, tires,disks, brakepads. Then it is also easier to hear problems coming up (pedals, BB). And not to start the war again, but gives the opportunity to touchup paint, esp important on steel frames.

Not doing reasonable maintenance? = Fun stuff like rim splitting, tire blowing off rim at 40mph, truing a rim in the campground and hoping the bike shop in the next little town is open on Sunday, ....
reiffert is offline  
Old 11-06-07, 04:49 PM
  #7  
aspiring dirtbag commuter
 
max-a-mill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: philly
Posts: 2,123
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
if you can get away with riding singlspeed/fixed all maintenance pretty much ends.

i replace 3-4 chains a year on the fleey as needed; lube em, and ride em.

once every couple years one of the bikes might need a new set of gears... brake pads, tires...

i started singlespeeding not to be cool but because i am a lousy mechanic.

the amount of crappy weather you ride in definitely has a huge effect on mileage.

finally, keeping your chain clean doesn't seem to matter much in my experience, just keep it lubed. but then i don't have a bunch of gears the chain has to shift into.
max-a-mill is offline  
Old 11-06-07, 06:52 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Conifer CO
Posts: 412
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I have little over 4,000 commuter miles so far this year. I have worn out 2 sets of tires 1 complete set of brake pads and 1 chain.
gmule is offline  
Old 11-06-07, 06:58 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
caloso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Sacramento, California, USA
Posts: 40,865

Bikes: Specialized Tarmac, Canyon Exceed, Specialized Transition, Ellsworth Roots, Ridley Excalibur

Mentioned: 68 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2952 Post(s)
Liked 3,106 Times in 1,417 Posts
It's amazing what kind of wear that commuting will put on a bike. I replaced the front brake shoes on my commuter after a single year (less than 2000 miles).
caloso is offline  
Old 11-06-07, 07:58 PM
  #10  
Sumanitu taka owaci
 
LittleBigMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 8,945
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Not a problem.

Brakes will go. New pads are cheap (don't wait on this, your rims will pay.)

Tires too.

Chain/sprockets will wear (see Sheldon Brown--google it--for advice on when to replace. You'll know when your chain skips, but it's probably too late then.)

Find a bike shop you trust and let them fill you in.
__________________
No worries
LittleBigMan is offline  
Old 11-06-07, 10:09 PM
  #11  
Senior Member
 
zonatandem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 11,016

Bikes: Custom Zona c/f tandem + Scott Plasma single

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 77 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 19 Times in 11 Posts
Here are some numbers from an article we did back in 2002.

We ride tandem, so all equipment gets a bit harder wear due to extra torque by 2 riders.
This was what we replaced, in 50,000 miles, on that particular tandem:
Tires: 17 front and 22 rear.
Flats: 138 flat tires (65 front/73 rear). Living in the desert lots of thorns, glass, road debris, etc. Unusual stuff for flats: broken Presta valve stem, a large industrial size staple.
Most flats, due to construction on our local road: 14 in 10 days of riding!
Chains: drive chain 7; cross over chain 6. Broke cross-over chain twice. Note: we are sticklers on keeping chains and drivetrain clean/grit-free.
Cassette: 8.
Derailleurs: front replaced once, rear replaced once.
Rear der. pulleys: 3 sets replaced.
Cables:front der: 4; rear der. 10. Never replaced any brake cables.
Chainrings: replaced 54 and 40T chainrings at 17,000 miles. Replaced 40T middle ring with a 42T and replaced that one 23,000 miles later. 26T granny chainring lasted 33,532 miles before replacing.
Broke one chainring bolt.
Headest: replaced twice.
Handlebar tape replaced 4 times.
Wheels: cracked rear rim at 25,544 miles while climbing a very steep/long grade. Replaced rear rim 2 more times.
Stoker broke one toeclip. Pilot cracked one pedal (but that pedal had come of a previous tandem and had 80,000 miles on it). So, one new set of pedals.
Cable housing: rear der. cable housing 'exploded' after nearly 50,000 miles.
Replaced one broken stem bolt.
Stoker had handlebars replaced and also the stoker handrests (by choice, not neccessity).
Brake pads: wore out one set of rear brake pads.

Real Good Stuff:
Here is some of the orginal equipment that survived with flying colors:
Topline crankset; Front wheel (Mavic Mod. 3CD, Phil 36H hub and DT spokes). Delta QRs. Syncross Ti bottom brackets. Pilot and stoker stem and pilot handlebars. Scott-Pederson SE brakes. Shim. bar end shifters.
Front Matthauser brake pads.
Never broke a spoke.
This tandem was used for general riding:commute/tours/centuries/club rides/time trials.
It took us 8 years and 4 months to ride 50,000 miles on our Co-Motion custom tandem.
Moral of the story: good equipment and regular maintenance pays off in the l-o-n-g run!

Pedal on TWOgether!
Rudy and Kay/zonatandem
zonatandem is offline  
Old 11-06-07, 10:52 PM
  #12  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Jacksonville Florida
Posts: 765

Bikes: Raleigh Glacier MTB/Commuter. Cannondale CAAD5, Windsor Timeline fixed gear

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by zonatandem
Here are some numbers from an article we did back in 2002.

We ride tandem, so all equipment gets a bit harder wear due to extra torque by 2 riders.
This was what we replaced, in 50,000 miles, on that particular tandem:

[/snip]

This tandem was used for general riding:commute/tours/centuries/club rides/time trials.
It took us 8 years and 4 months to ride 50,000 miles on our Co-Motion custom tandem.
Moral of the story: good equipment and regular maintenance pays off in the l-o-n-g run!

Pedal on TWOgether!
Rudy and Kay/zonatandem
Man, it looks like it will be a long time till I get to upgrade anything on any of my bikes
MyBikeGotStolen is offline  
Old 11-06-07, 11:21 PM
  #13  
DNPAIMFB
 
pinkrobe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Cowtown, AB
Posts: 4,655

Bikes: Titus El Guapo, Misfit diSSent, Cervelo Soloist Carbon, Wabi Lightning, et al.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by CrimsonEclipse
Hmmm...cleaning my anus never helped my chain life.

maybe I'm doing it wrong.

CE
pinkrobe is offline  
Old 11-07-07, 03:53 AM
  #14  
Membership Not Required
 
wahoonc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: On the road-USA
Posts: 16,855

Bikes: Giant Excursion, Raleigh Sports, Raleigh R.S.W. Compact, Motobecane? and about 20 more! OMG

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 70 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 15 Times in 14 Posts
Originally Posted by pinkrobe
As pointed out it will vary...but on my Raleigh Sports 3 speed that was ridden around 5k miles a year average for 7 years. Chains were every other year, tires varied depending on quality, but typically a couple of sets a year. Original brake pads were still on the rear last year, but the front were replaced somewhere along the way, couple of broken spokes replaced and that was it. It got a complete tear down and cleaning ever now and again as needed. FWIW the bike is a 1972 Raleigh Sports Standard and is still being ridden occasionally today. Now if you do like my brother and run into parked cars, over dogs, curbs and policemen you will need to replace parts a bit more often.

Aaron
__________________
Webshots is bailing out, if you find any of my posts with corrupt picture files and want to see them corrected please let me know. :(

ISO: A late 1980's Giant Iguana MTB frameset (or complete bike) 23" Red with yellow graphics.

"Cycling should be a way of life, not a hobby.
RIDE, YOU FOOL, RIDE!"
_Nicodemus

"Steel: nearly a thousand years of metallurgical development
Aluminum: barely a hundred
Which one would you rather have under your butt at 30mph?"
_krazygluon
wahoonc is offline  
Old 11-07-07, 04:59 AM
  #15  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: IL-USA
Posts: 1,859
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 111 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Originally Posted by dwood
...So I got to wondering . . . if you ride any given bike those distances do you go thru several sets of tires, how many brake pads, do you wear out a rim from brake wear, how about the chain, what about the sprockets?...
The first recumbent I bought, I rode for two spring/summer seasons before concluding that it was a bit too short for me. The cyclocomputer showed 996 miles; the rear 1.5" wide tire had a narrow 1/4" flat strip worn around it in the center, and the front tire (also 1.5" wide) was still a round profile. The brakes were cheapish Promax disks, and the pads appeared to still have 3/4 of their life left (I live in a mostly-flat area).

I once read an article online about Freddie Hoffman; it said that he wears out a chain about every 5000 miles and new chainrings/clusters every 50,000 miles. The worn-out chainrings are given to big donors.
(-the link below isn't the same story, but it is one of them, and it has the same photos-)
https://www.miles4melanoma.com/hoffman.html

Freddie is probably the authority on wearing out bike parts; it'd be interesting to know what he uses on his bike.
~
Doug5150 is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.