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    Living Life On Two Wheels knatchwa's Avatar
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    Securing your bike

    What is some of the options you would suggest in regard to securing a bike while using for commuting?
    What is your preferred lock?And your experience with said lock?

    Ride On...To Secure a bike to have a bike when you walk out the store.

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    There are a ton of variables that have to be evaluated to give anything more than generic advice.

    Generally speaking:
    Use a good U-lock and a cable, securing both wheels and frame to a solid object.
    Don't leave anything on the bike you don't want stolen.
    Try to pick a good spot where it's watched.
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    Living Life On Two Wheels knatchwa's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by CastIron View Post
    There are a ton of variables that have to be evaluated to give anything more than generic advice.

    Generally speaking:
    Use a good U-lock and a cable, securing both wheels and frame to a solid object.
    Don't leave anything on the bike you don't want stolen.
    Try to pick a good spot where it's watched.
    I am also looking for some personal experiences and how each individual attends to there security.

    Thanks for the Response

    Ride Onand be secure.

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    See Above. But again, it depends.
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    Get a lock which is both ART Four Star and Sold Secure Gold rated, and only lock up to a thick pole grounded in concrete which the locked bike can't be lifted over. For this I either use a U-lock or a Kryptonite NY Noose, depending where I'll be going and with whom.

    My wife and I also use Pitlock locking skewers on our QR wheels.

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    It really is horses for courses. Where I work our site is on a private road and the bike hut is right in front of the security building. I use an OnGuard Beast lock to lock my bike to the ground posts. My panniers are secured with a single cable tie, but they are quite hard to find so it would cause a would be theif trouble. I take all the lights off but leave the battery on as this is also quite hard to get off.

    At home it is different I have a metal shed with 2 high security locks on the door, 2 PIR alarm systems, a built in ground anchor, 3 x 12mm link chains plus a cable around all of the wheels. I also keep an axe handle by the bed so if the alarm does go off I get a chance to deal with the theifs.

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    I have a little story to tell that I read in a local paper about a guy who was having his shed broken into, he called the police at around 21:00 and was told that they could not get anybody round to him until the morning. So he left it about 3 minutes and phoned them back to tell them not to worry as he had shot them with his airgun. The story continues with a helicopter, 3 police cars and an armoured response unit arriving at his house with 4 minutes. When they arrived he just said I thought you couldn't get anyone round until the morning or is burglary not important anymore. The would be theifs were caught as well.

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    good story, this thread got quiet quick though what happened there I wonder.
    When I go biking, I repeat a mantra of the day's sensations: bright sun, blue sky, warm breeze, blue jay's call, ice melting and so on. This helps me transcend the traffic, ignore the clamorings of work, leave all the mind theaters behind and focus on nature instead. I still must abide by the rules of the road, of biking, of gravity. But I am mentally far away from civilization. The world is breaking someone else's heart. ~Diane Ackerman
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    I use 3 locks when downtown. A u lock a large heavy cable and lock and a small cable and lock. In 20 years or so of riding I have had a seat and post stolen once (was in store for 3minutes). A pro can defeat any lock. 99% of time theft is a crime of opportunity. I can bring my bike indoors at work. Anywhere else I take my seat and post, computer and lights of bike and stuff in knapsack.

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    there is life after all thought this one was going to be lost in obscurity. That is a good idea, makes for a lot to carry but nice to be able to come back out put it all back on and ride. Thanks for the insight. Any more takers on the subject?
    When I go biking, I repeat a mantra of the day's sensations: bright sun, blue sky, warm breeze, blue jay's call, ice melting and so on. This helps me transcend the traffic, ignore the clamorings of work, leave all the mind theaters behind and focus on nature instead. I still must abide by the rules of the road, of biking, of gravity. But I am mentally far away from civilization. The world is breaking someone else's heart. ~Diane Ackerman
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    I use an old model OnGuard Brute, along with a Kryptonite flexcable for the front wheen. I lock to bike racks when possible. Otherwise, signposts and such are the second choice. Can someone life the bike over them? Yes, but it would be a lot of work for the tall posts.

    One comment I'd like to add is that unless you're racing or something like that, the weight added by a heavy weight lock or chain (5-8 lbs) is probably insignificant relative to your ride as long as the stuff is placed in a basket of sorts or kept anywhere other than in a backpack.
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    Choose location wisely

    I'm fortunate to be able to store my bicycle inside my office, but there are times when I must lock it up on the street for periods of time.

    Where you lock it can be just as important as how you lock it. I always go for as public a space as possible. Thieves like to work where nobody is watching them. Make sure what you lock your bike to is solid. The only bike I ever had stolen was a beater I left locked to a regular street sign (Parking sign) outside my apartment building. I had only intended to lock it there for about 15 minutes while I ran inside to get something. I ended up staying in for the night and forgot that I left it locked in a really dumb spot. The sign was really tall, and required special tools to remove the bolts. I guess the thief had that special tool, because he took the sign off the top (so all that was left was the signpost). He must have stood on top of a tall van or SUV (or ladder), and had help lifting the bike and U-lock over the top of the signpost. That's a lot of effort for an old beater. Two other bikes on my block were stolen that night, so it was probably a team effort and I just locked my old bike to the wrong anchor at the wrong time.

    Anyway... I'm glad it wasn't my expensive bike. That would have been a harder lesson to learn...especially since I already knew better.

    So choose visible locations, and make sure that the anchor point can't be dismantled. Limit the time of exposure (especially if it is at night), and use two locks if you can. The more difficult you make it, the better. Check with your renter's or homeowner's insurance to see what they cover, and use a good lock or two. I've often used U-locks with a cable run through the wheels. I also have a MasterLock Street Cuff that is rated as high as U-Locks. I like it because it's leverage attack resistant and kind of cool. It's unusual which means thieves will probably move on to something more familiar.

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    the insight continues getting better. Thanks for the replies. It took me two bikes lost before I started making a serious effort about securing the bike. It is to bad there are people who make it a point just to steal. ROI perhaps who knows. I will admit I lost my Schwinn Ranger 2.6fs because I left it in a supposed secure location for to long a period of time and when I get back no bike and the only proof taken with the "secure" camera was useless as it was black and white and the view was obstructed. Beyond that with my first Giant Rincon - Parked out the front of the restaurant I was working in "expected" clear view still was stolen. And only a cut cable lock remained. It took along time to get the Giant Rincon I have now But I now use Bulldog with a cable and thus far I still come out to my bike. Would you say where the bikes were stolen was a high risk area?
    When I go biking, I repeat a mantra of the day's sensations: bright sun, blue sky, warm breeze, blue jay's call, ice melting and so on. This helps me transcend the traffic, ignore the clamorings of work, leave all the mind theaters behind and focus on nature instead. I still must abide by the rules of the road, of biking, of gravity. But I am mentally far away from civilization. The world is breaking someone else's heart. ~Diane Ackerman
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    I'm curious if anyone has ever had a component (seat post, front wheel, etc.) stolen that wasn't a quick-release and not locked. I use a kryptonite u-lock around my rear wheel and frame, but nothing else, as you'd need wrenches to get the rest off. (except for the little toy wired to my stem; that's pretty easy to remove)

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobo #3 View Post
    I'm curious if anyone has ever had a component (seat post, front wheel, etc.) stolen that wasn't a quick-release and not locked. I use a kryptonite u-lock around my rear wheel and frame, but nothing else, as you'd need wrenches to get the rest off. (except for the little toy wired to my stem; that's pretty easy to remove)
    I did forget to mention that I've had things lifted off a locked bike in broad daylight on a busy sidewalk. I've never had anyone take a seat or a major component, but I have had people steal the spare tubes and tools out of my seat bag. I also lost a blinky light when someone took it off my handlebar. Another time it was a frame pump. Now I never leave anything on the bike if I'm going to lock it for an extended period.

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    yeah it can be a sad story, one experience that comes to mind is just after I picked up my Giant Rincon, I had arrived at work and because I was running behind I did not take off my headlight. Though it was a cheap find on ebay and it barely fit anyhow. The point being, that when I got off work, and went to get riding, I noticed that one part of the battery in a bad location anyhow had been removed and the battery was gone the other piece was just lost. Either someone just wanted to be an annoyance or needed the battery for portable device and just did not put it back on I do not know. Consequently, I ended up travelling to the local target and picking up another 10 dollar light and set it up and was ready to go. Just did not make alot of sense to me but stealing a bike is about the same imo.
    When I go biking, I repeat a mantra of the day's sensations: bright sun, blue sky, warm breeze, blue jay's call, ice melting and so on. This helps me transcend the traffic, ignore the clamorings of work, leave all the mind theaters behind and focus on nature instead. I still must abide by the rules of the road, of biking, of gravity. But I am mentally far away from civilization. The world is breaking someone else's heart. ~Diane Ackerman
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    I commute in downtown Boston. My bike gets to stay in my office while I'm working, so it's not out on the street for hours and hours. It gets locked up all kinds of places around town, though, because I frequently stop off to do errands, get coffee, eat dinner, whatever. I have a krypto U-lock that's about eight years old, and sometimes I take a Krypto cable for use when there's nothing I can lock it to with the U-lock. My bike is a built-from-donated-parts hybrid that I bought from Bikes Not Bombs, it's awesomely functional but a long long way from shiny and spendy, and I don't leave easily-removed stuff on it when I lock the bike (like bike comp, lights, etc.). I don't bother to remove the seat though.

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    as far as experience goes ... nothing ever stolen off a locked bike except for the light I bought. I put together a video on bike security it can be found here it offers some insight. I wonder though once more this thread became silent. Is there no other stories of securing a bike to be shared?
    When I go biking, I repeat a mantra of the day's sensations: bright sun, blue sky, warm breeze, blue jay's call, ice melting and so on. This helps me transcend the traffic, ignore the clamorings of work, leave all the mind theaters behind and focus on nature instead. I still must abide by the rules of the road, of biking, of gravity. But I am mentally far away from civilization. The world is breaking someone else's heart. ~Diane Ackerman
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