surly xcheck fork for disc and rack possibility
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surly xcheck fork for disc and rack possibility
I'm going to go front disc and generator hub on my Surly Cross Check. I'll need a new fork and have questions about brakes. Please advise on any of my choices or ideas. Any input on changes is welcome.
I ride a 54cm cross check. It is set up with wide drop bars, fenders, fat tires, and a nexus 8 drive train.
I know very little about bike geometry. I have chosen geometry based on test rides in the past, not data. I have the stock 1-1/8 cross check fork right now. 44mm rake and 300mm steerer, whatever that means. I'm pretty sure I need a new fork if I'm going to get disc brakes. I don't want to drastically change the handling of the bike, and I want to keep using fat tires. Right now I have 700x48 big apples, but I'm going to downsize to 700x38 armadillo elites soon (the apples are a bit too big). I don't want to spend a fortune, but I don't want junk either. It would be nice if I had the option to mount a front rack, but I will consider forks without this hardware. Please suggest forks.
Shimano makes a generator hub for disc brakes, the DH-3N71.
I have recently bought a mountain bike and have become a fan of disc brakes. I'm going to make this upgrade at the same time. I'd like to use the Avid BB7 brakes. I have BB5s on my stock MTB, but I like the adjusters on the BB7.
There is an Avid BB7 for both MTB and road bikes. The levers on my cross check are Cane Creek. I also have in-line "cross" levers. I'm guessing that the "road" version of the BB7 is what I need.
What brake parts will I need to get besides the wheel and caliper?
For a headlight, based on reviews here I like the B&M IQ fly senso plus.
So I need:
Nexus generator hub built into a wheel (probably form the LBS)
Brake cables
Brake caliper
other brake hardware? (disc etc)
fork
headlight
Please link me to suggestions if possible.
Thanks and happy new year!
I ride a 54cm cross check. It is set up with wide drop bars, fenders, fat tires, and a nexus 8 drive train.
I know very little about bike geometry. I have chosen geometry based on test rides in the past, not data. I have the stock 1-1/8 cross check fork right now. 44mm rake and 300mm steerer, whatever that means. I'm pretty sure I need a new fork if I'm going to get disc brakes. I don't want to drastically change the handling of the bike, and I want to keep using fat tires. Right now I have 700x48 big apples, but I'm going to downsize to 700x38 armadillo elites soon (the apples are a bit too big). I don't want to spend a fortune, but I don't want junk either. It would be nice if I had the option to mount a front rack, but I will consider forks without this hardware. Please suggest forks.
Shimano makes a generator hub for disc brakes, the DH-3N71.
I have recently bought a mountain bike and have become a fan of disc brakes. I'm going to make this upgrade at the same time. I'd like to use the Avid BB7 brakes. I have BB5s on my stock MTB, but I like the adjusters on the BB7.
There is an Avid BB7 for both MTB and road bikes. The levers on my cross check are Cane Creek. I also have in-line "cross" levers. I'm guessing that the "road" version of the BB7 is what I need.
What brake parts will I need to get besides the wheel and caliper?
For a headlight, based on reviews here I like the B&M IQ fly senso plus.
So I need:
Nexus generator hub built into a wheel (probably form the LBS)
Brake cables
Brake caliper
other brake hardware? (disc etc)
fork
headlight
Please link me to suggestions if possible.
Thanks and happy new year!
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Has anyone tried this nashbar fork?
They also stock the BB7 road brakes.
Might be a good purchase if I buy everything at once and wait for a 20% off deal.
Opinions?
They also stock the BB7 road brakes.
Might be a good purchase if I buy everything at once and wait for a 20% off deal.
Opinions?
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I have a fork almost identical to the Nashbar fork listed which I purchased from Web Cyclery. It is a Surly 1x1 and fits both disc and canti brakes. Wonderful fork.
Oh yeah, also run Avid mechanicals - love 'em
Oh yeah, also run Avid mechanicals - love 'em
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I have the Nashbar carbonfiber cross fork and the Avid BB7 disc brake on the front. That's a great combination.
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Not exactly cheap by MSRP, but Bontrager satellite elite.
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If you want to stick with steel kona has a wide variety of offerings. In your title you mentioned rack compatability. the specific version of the P2 fork on the Kona Sutra takes disc brakes and a front rack. Kona forks can be had for 80-100 bucks.
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Thanks
I looked at most of the other stuff on this thread too. Will any of these other forks take a rack?
The nashbar mentions it but I really dont see where it would mount
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I have a friend with the Nashbar for and its very burly, seems quite strong, but if I recall the documentation that came with it said that the disc brake is not for tandem use. It doesn't have rack mounts for a low rider rack like the Surly Long Haul Trucker fork, just the lower rack eyelets which are probably just for fenders.
I've never seen a fork with disc brake mounts AND the mid fork low rider rack mounts-- probably because those two features would be incompatible. I'd go with a Kona Project Two disk fork or the Nashbar and then come up with a front rack solution like an Old Man Mountain rack for disc brakes.
Good luck.
I've never seen a fork with disc brake mounts AND the mid fork low rider rack mounts-- probably because those two features would be incompatible. I'd go with a Kona Project Two disk fork or the Nashbar and then come up with a front rack solution like an Old Man Mountain rack for disc brakes.
Good luck.
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Or you know there are some really nice Nitto front racks that either clamp on the canti-bosses or clamp halfway down the fork leg on a P clamp. Those are VERY nice and VERY sturdy. I've considered getting one of those for a long time now, and I think is the way to go for many bike geometries.
I was thinking about getting a big front bag for it, like the Ostrich, and making that my only commuting baggage. Expensive setup, but very nice!
I was thinking about getting a big front bag for it, like the Ostrich, and making that my only commuting baggage. Expensive setup, but very nice!
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I decided to put off the upgrade because it is going to cost upward of $500. I can't swing it right now, but plan to have it done before next winter.
The Kona seems to be the best bet for a steel fork. Price is affordable ($80) and it gives rack options. I don't plan to keep a front rack on there all the time but I want the option if I'm going to spend a bunch of cash on a new fork.
I'm probably just going to buy the wheel built on a disc hub and the light first, then buy the brake and fork later, to spread the financial burden out.
I got the specs for the Kona fork from them, because they aren't listed on the Kona store site. I'll post them here in case someone reading the archive needs them.
Kona P2 700c w disc and rack eyelet:
The fork rake is 43mm, axle to crown is 390mm.
Maximum tire depends on the tire manufacturer (they all measure
differently) ask your local shop but probably 42 to 44 would be the max.
The fork has a 1&1/8" steer tube and weights in at 1140g uncut.
The cross check fork I have now has a 44mm rake and is 400mm axle to crown.
Anyone know how these small changes would effect handling and geometry?
The Kona seems to be the best bet for a steel fork. Price is affordable ($80) and it gives rack options. I don't plan to keep a front rack on there all the time but I want the option if I'm going to spend a bunch of cash on a new fork.
I'm probably just going to buy the wheel built on a disc hub and the light first, then buy the brake and fork later, to spread the financial burden out.
I got the specs for the Kona fork from them, because they aren't listed on the Kona store site. I'll post them here in case someone reading the archive needs them.
Kona P2 700c w disc and rack eyelet:
The fork rake is 43mm, axle to crown is 390mm.
Maximum tire depends on the tire manufacturer (they all measure
differently) ask your local shop but probably 42 to 44 would be the max.
The fork has a 1&1/8" steer tube and weights in at 1140g uncut.
The cross check fork I have now has a 44mm rake and is 400mm axle to crown.
Anyone know how these small changes would effect handling and geometry?
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Another note, the Shimano hub uses a center lock style disc mount, where as the Avid use the 6-bolt standard. Make sure your brakes are compatible with your hub, or you'll be looking at buying another disc, an adaptor, or new brake set.
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Does that mean it isn't compatible at all? B/c I've been planning to rebuild (or have done) my front wheel with that hub, but I've got BB-7s as well. Now I have to go look at the Schmidt/SON hubs to find one that works with the BB-7s?
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Shimano's center-lock is not compatible with standard 6-bolt setups. You can buy an adapter, but if you're starting from scratch and have Avid brakes, avoid the retrofit and get a 6-bolt hub.
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Shimano's center-lock is not compatible with standard 6-bolt setups. You can buy an adapter, but if you're starting from scratch and have Avid brakes, avoid the retrofit and get a 6-bolt hub.