climbhoser

If you don't need it until you get there then why not just brew it fresh when you arrive?

Maybe I'm bias because my breakroom has an insti-hot spout, just perfect for doing a quick, personal French Press full of my favorite blend, ground just how I like it!

Ya Tu Sabes

As a father of two, I have found that Playtex insulated sippy cups are great for coffee on the bike. They come with a little rubber insert that makes it so you really have to tip back and suck to get liquid out, but if you take the insert away, they provide a decent flow but don't spill. Also, at two for under ten bucks, you can lose 'em, abuse 'em, and not feel too bad about throwing them away when you forget to clean them for two weeks and they are full of mold.

Athanasius

My office doesn't have a kettle OR a coffee machine. Crazy, huh? Even if it did, I'm not gonna buy a grinder and seperate beans for it...

caloso

Has no one posted this yet?

https://www.bicyclecoffeesystems.com/

fender1

+1 I have used this for 2 years. I LOVE it. I do not drink from i while riding though as it keeps the liquid very hot for a long time and I burned my mouth.

joelpalmer

Meh, nothing that fits in a cage hold enough coffee. I'll stick to my 1L Thermos Nissan. Brew the coffee at home (percolator during morning shower) and it's hot for hours. Best I've gotten so far was the night I forgot to pour the extra (occasionally there is some) out when I got home and it steamed when I opened it the next morning.

joelpalmer

Join the club. I think the only coffee maker in the building is one of our grants guys, he has a little 4 cupper.

2manybikes

I almost burned my mouth, but I had been experimenting for 14 years first. So I was carefull.

It's the clear winner after trying them over 14 winters.

2_i 

2manybikes&thermoses, you seem to have a good base for providing an informed opinion. How good is Nissan BackPack in terms of one-hand operation, compared to the JSBs standing next to the Nissans? How durable is the cap? Can you get replacements? Thx.

2manybikes

Sorry about the long post, I don't think this information is avalable anywhere else.

It is 100% better. First, just push the button to open, and close on you leg or arm or whatever. Truly one handed.

Insulated or not, do not use drink spout top bottles for very hot drinks. The hot liquid heats up the air inside the bottle over time, it trys to expand, and pressurizes the bottle. If you tip it up to drink, before pulling the spout open, the air goes to the top becoming the propellant behind the liquid, and you get a huge blast of hot drink blasting out. Even if you don't tip it up there are a few drops splashed on the inside of the spout when it is right side up. They blast into your face when you open it. If it's really hot you can get burned.
Or at least it will spill something that can stain your $80 Pearl Izumi jacket, especially yellow. The backpacker bottle opens two holes at once. If you tip it there is still a hole (pressure release) above the liquid.
Also the JSB's leak a little around the intake seal, it's just a huge pain. And they are as wide as a regular bike bottle with no flex, bend your cages out a lot or maybe get new cages. The smaller diameter of the the backpack bottle allows you to cover it with something soft that fits and stays in place.

See the bottle with the straw? When it is right side up the inside end of the straw is at the bottom of the liquid and the hot air is at the top. Just like a spray can zoom --- out it comes when you open it !! And it keeps on coming.
This is such a problem that the two identical Thermos drink top bottles next to the one with the straw, have had the plastic intentionally made so that if you put a hot drink in it the taste is really, really, bad. It's fine with cold water, but it keeps owners from ever trying a hot drink again.
It's not a mild taste, it's huge, and it works. I use those two for water on long rides below freezing to keep the water from freezing.

I have not broken a cap, I never tried to get a replacement. Thermos has stopped making this bottle, but there are still plenty around on the internet. Buy two right now! I did drop one off the bike and it just scratched the top, it works fine. As long as it is closed, I would say they are pretty durable. Not like plastic bike bottles, but as durable as all the other stainless vacuum bottles. They all can get dented.
The Backpack bottles are good for winter time weight weenies. They hold more liquid with less bottle weight than any of the others. One size is 500ml and the other is 750 ml. The larger mass of liquid in the big one will stay hot a little longer, more stored btu's in it.

The advantage of a Thermos with a separate cup for a top is to allow one to have very hot drink in the bottle and letting one cup at a time cool off for a drink, thus keeping the drink hot a little longer. On a bike ride even the best insulated bottle will cool down fast enough if it is below freezing. I drink fast enough for a seperate cup to be useless for me. But everyone is different. A loosley piled jacket around a bottle in a pannier is wonderfull insulation, for hot or cold.

Ice cubes in stainless bottles are very noisy as you ride. Don't fill stainless bottles with water and put them in the freezer, yeah, a friend did it.

I tried all the insulated plastic bottles too. Zefal, Polar, brand x, Bell, etc. Good to keep from buring your hand but not much insulation, they use foam or air. But, you can put those in the freezer with water in them.
The Zefal is the best for lots of reasons.

2_i 

I've learned, over time, how to use a JSB with hot contents, but there is no question that the problem is there. Though, JSB has a vent above the spout but does not let much air through and there is no reason for suffering in learning.

True, at least some pain.

You can get an adjustable Topeak cage.

I am not sure whether I understand you correctly. Do you recommend a Thermos or a Nissan bottle? Did you just misspeak? The Thermos bottle with those caps don't seem particularly suited for one-hand operation, aside from the other problems you mention.

Personally, I need a bottle with one-hand operation. I hang to the bottle off the bike and take a sip once in a while. If I were to deal with a cap, I'd leave the bottle behind.

After trying a vacuum bottle, I'd not go back to a non-vacuum one. Incidentally, even at home I drink now most often from a vacuum cup.

2manybikes

Sorry, I did say it in a confusing way.

I recommend the back packer bottle with the pop open orange button. Some of them say "Nissan" painted on the side (not all) , but they all say "Thermos" molded into the plastic on the bottom. Same company, same bottle. They are also listed for sale both ways. Same part number.

Thermos and Nissan= same bottle.

Me too. I use the backpacker bottles in the car. I love that it truly won't spill if you tip it over.

fireguy286

Hasn't anyone just tried their camelback. Works great, keeps coffee piping hot. The only thing is I have to rinse it out really well to get rid of the taste for the Saturday MTB ride with water.

RT

I repeat.

How long does your coffee need to stay cold? The IsoTherm is for hot and cold, and you don't have to bleach it to use it for water the next time. It is not vacuum sealed, it is not expensive, and it keeps your coffee hot for at least an hour. There is also a black version on eBay.

Rob_E

Haven't tried it, but I saw this a few weeks back:

https://www.amazon.com/Ibera-Co-Ltd-S...9821283&sr=1-1

Not for drinking while you're riding, but seems like it might get you to your destination with a hot drink.

I use an Oxo insulated mug (two, actually, for 25 oz. or so of coffee) thrown in trunk. I don't get to drink on the way, either, obviously, but they are still hot when I arrive.

2manybikes

It depends. If the coffee is the first bottle, it's Ok, But if you need it for later on it's cold.

They also leak.
Not an hour at 25 F or below. The vacumm insulated will be hot for an hour at that temp. And warm for 1.5 hours. It depends on the length of your ride and the temp. The backpack bottle actually will not leak upside down.

caloso

I received a Peet's card for Xmas and got one of these:

https://www.thermos.com/Product_detai...&ProductID=487


So far, I've been very pleased.

Allen

I lined the rim of my cage with some silicon hose I picked up at the auto supply store. I slit the hose with a razor blade to fit it around the metal of my cage. The bottle fits very well and makes no noise.

2_i 

I used heatshrink on my cage.

GreenGrasshoppr

How about this then? It's almost a bicycle pump...

https://www.handpresso.fr/products/video/video-FR.html

2_i 

Just as a follow-up, after an advice here, I've got the Nissan/Thermos Backpack bottle. It is indeed superior to the past thermal-bottle champion, Korean JSB-500. The cap is insulating in contrast to the JSB, does not leak and allows for the liquid to cool before getting to the lips. However, the Backpack bottle's diameter is slightly smaller than that of the standard bicycle bottle. One remedy is the adjustable Topeak Modula cage that works well with the Backpack bottle.

Thanx 2manybikes!

2manybikes

I'm glad you like it.
It's nice to know that all this trivia floating around in my head can be usefull, once in a while.

neilfein

Y'all couldn't have posted all this before I gave up caffeine? I'm drooling...

SSP

Another +1 for the Thermos/Nissan backpack bottle.

I've had one for a couple of weeks (after reading reviews in this thread), and it's been great.

This morning's commute featured a temperature of 31 degree F, and one hour of standing on a street corner waving a sign for "Obama '08" (Yes We Can!). Despite a fairly long time in the cold, my coffee remained nice and hot. And yesterday, I rode around town all morning in temps in the low '40's, but I always had hot coffee at the ready - and, it's pretty easy to drink while you're riding, or when stopped at traffic lights (though I haven't tried it while track-standing ).

vincentpaul

FWIW, my wife bought me a GREAT Starbucks leak-proof-aluminum travel mug for the pagan holiday involving tree sacrifice. After 45 minutes of hill climbs and descents during each day's commute, I stop at a wildlife refuge to cool down, observe the wildlife, and have a cup of java. The temps have been in the 20's -30's lately and the coffee is still burning hot when I flip the lid up.