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Old 01-11-08, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DataJunkie
You would be incorrect. A sign of maturity is when you freely admit when you are wrong. You have a bit of growing up to do.
I for one frequently admit I am wrong... unfortunately. Plus, I posses a temper unparalleled in polite society.
Thank you for your judgement. Who are you to make such a statement? Let me put this another way: Who the do you think you are?
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Originally Posted by nick burns
Man up and hit the streets. Sidewalks are for walks.
Around here streets are for suicide.
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Originally Posted by evblazer
She did not intentionally bump you.
You Intentionally Verbally Assaulted her.

Hm nope I don't think I can agree with you on your deserved comment. Whether you have the right of way or not, riding on the road or on the sidewalk you are responsible for your own safety not her. The cops might give her a warning or a ticket but I don't think that will do your corpse alot of good.
No such thing in Texas as verbal assault. As far as doing my corpse a lot of good the same thing applies if I ride in the street in a busy congested roadway at 4:30PM, only in that case I'm asking to be killed. The last thought I want going through my brain as it leaks out of my skull is "I had the right of way/ right to be here".
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Originally Posted by mwrobe1
Wow. Under that logic, I supppose when the woman's boyfriend/husband tracks you down and kicks your ***** you will have deserved what you got too eh?

I thought they taught manners in the South.
Wow! Where did you come up with that logic? Oh yeah, you're a Yankee. Jump from a verbal confrontation to physical assault. Now that's a quantum leap. BTW, I have confronted men in this manner and you know what happened? Nothing. We both walked away. I can even think of one situation where we shook hands.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Underbridge
How fast were you going and which way? If you're going a whole lot than a pedestrian, and especially if you were going the wrong way, I'd say it's your fault.

I'd say you may have also learned the hard way that riding where cars don't expect you is probably the best way to ensure that you DO play bumper cars with somebody's car.

And as mentioned, you also acted a whole lot less mature than she did. What did unleashing a stream of profanity to someone exhibiting contrition accomplish, exactly?
Speed, no more than 7 MPH. Direction of travel, coming from her left the same as the flow of traffic. What did it accomplish? Who knows, maybe nothing, maybe she will be more aware of her surroundings when she drives.
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Originally Posted by truman
Verbal attacks are the refuge of the powerless.
So is a nameless faceless persona posting such comments
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Originally Posted by rykoala
There, fixed it for you.
Wow, you really didn't read all the post, did you. Anyway, I didn't realize you were there and saw what happened. Did you get pics? How about her license plate number?
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Sheesh, read the whole thing people!
"I try and stay in residential areas and ride the streets at those times, but when I must ride down a major street I stay on the sidewalk. I'm not going to play bumper cars with 4000 pounds of steel and rubber."
BTW, who says I am looking for sympathy? Just relating an incident.
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Originally Posted by thplmn72
No I can attest to you the whole southern hospitality is a myth I been here 15 years and these people are like other people it's an all about me society . And I can promise you they can't drive although we do 80+ mpr. that just means when they wreck it usually involves 6 or more vehicles.
Atlanta is not the South, my friend. Drive south down I-75 about 100 miles or so and we'll show you some real hospitality and good times. I was born and raised in the South... steeped in a culture that encourages us to take care of our neighbors, sacrifice for a friend, and show kindness to a guest. And if you've been here for only 15 years, you're still a guest in Dixie.
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Originally Posted by PJones0012
Wow, you really didn't read all the post, did you. Anyway, I didn't realize you were there and saw what happened. Did you get pics? How about her license plate number?
Yes, I read the whole thing. Yes, I do have a very good idea of what happened. I have been in similar situations when in traffic.

Whether I was there or got pictures or her license plate is a moot point.

The point is that no matter what she did wrong or how she endangered you, you only proved one major point in your entire confrontation.

That you sir are a jackass.
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Originally Posted by PJones0012
Thank you for your judgement. Who are you to make such a statement? Let me put this another way: Who the do you think you are?
Who the do you think I am? I the do I am the think I be needin a beer I um am the think I am.

It does not take a genius to infer your maturity from this lovely thread.
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Thank you for your judgement. Who are you to make such a statement? Let me put this another way: Who the do you think you are?
He is a responder to you post. Why do you post if you do not want an answer?
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Originally Posted by MikeR
He is a responder to you post. Why do you post if you do not want an answer?
Could be that the OP only wants to read responses and answers that agree with his point of view and version of Conventional Wisdom.

He is hardly the only BF poster who whines about responses that don't conform to his expectation/desire of only praise and agreement for his posted action or opinion. Seems to be a special class of poster who rants about all the other guys who are "stupid" but don't want their own posts evaluated for "stupid" content.
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Originally Posted by MikeR
He is a responder to you post. Why do you post if you do not want an answer?
+1

To the OP: Get over it. I hope you did not think everyone would applaud you for yelling at a driver because you got hit riding on a sidewalk. Sure it may be legal there and you may be afraid to ride on busy streets, but that is the risk you take on sidewalks. You were trying to avoid "playing bumper cars with 4000pounds of steel and rubber" but you succeeded in playing the same game anyway. So, where are you going to ride now? Are you going to be scared to ride on that sidewalk now?

If possible choose a different route or ride on the road instead.
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No, I wasn't looking for sympathy or anyone who simply agreed with me. I understand that there are individuals who take issue with how I reacted. You are entitled and have the right to your opinion. You do not have the right to judge or pass judgement. By making statements such as "man up and hit the streets" or "grow a pair" only proves how naive you are about bicycling in the 4th largest city in the US. I posted here because this occurred during a commute. Any further comments should be messaged to me directly and we can take the comments off forum and converse directly. That is IF you have a pair.
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Originally Posted by PJones0012
First, re-read my post. I am not going to play bumper car with 4000 pounds of steel and rubber. ...
guess that didn't work out for you huh?
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Hey PJones.... I realize you don't want to ride on the busy street, but if you were within the city limits of Houston, what you did was illegal.

Section 45-302
No person shall ride a bicycle upon a sidewalk in the City of Houston within a business district or where prohibited by sign. A business district is defined as "the territory contiguous to and including a roadway when, within 600 feet along such roadway, there are buildings in use for business or industrial purpose which occupy 300 feet collectively on both sides of the roadway". Also, bicyclists are required to yield to pedestrians and give an audible signal to pedestrians when riding on approved sidewalks. (In general, bicyclists are permitted to ride on sidewalks unless prohibited by local ordinances, although experienced cyclists usually agree that it is much safer to ride on the street and follow the laws as they apply to any other vehicle.)
Believe it or not, there are a more than a few of us who (according to you) are attempting suicide by riding in the streets. Thus far in my two years of bike commuting in Houston, I have crashed twice, and neither of those incidents involved cars.
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Originally Posted by PJones0012
Moved my rear tire over on the pavement a couple of inches but didn't knock me down. I stopped and checked my bike and no discernible damage except for a scraped and slightly bent support arm on my rack. I walked over to the drivers side and she apologized. I informed her that there is a sidewalk there and she was required to stop before proceeding. She said "I know". OK, lets think a second. She knows she is required to stop but she didn't? I called her every dirty female name I could think of and then some. Her response was that I didn't have the right to cuss at her. Well, considering the fact she hit me, yes it does.
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You ruined a good opportunity to say something like "please be more careful and watch for cyclists", something that would've made her think every time she drives. You could've changed a driver and an attitude. For the cost of a rack arm, I would've done it myself, and I'm not even a very nice person.

Way to make a complete ass of yourself.
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Poor conflict resolution skills were displayed. You could have used the situation to your advantage (e.g. Gotten some cash out of her for the damaged rack). Insted, your actions were to the disadvantage of both of you.
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Originally Posted by PJones0012
No, I wasn't looking for sympathy or anyone who simply agreed with me. I understand that there are individuals who take issue with how I reacted. You are entitled and have the right to your opinion. You do not have the right to judge or pass judgement. By making statements such as "man up and hit the streets" or "grow a pair" only proves how naive you are about bicycling in the 4th largest city in the US. I posted here because this occurred during a commute. Any further comments should be messaged to me directly and we can take the comments off forum and converse directly. That is IF you have a pair.

Calm down man. Check with HoustonGal, maybe she has a pair to lend you. Also, how in the world to those cyclists in NYC survive?

Seriously though, you posted this publicly so I for one, will respond publicly. I'm glad you were not injured and I know you were pissed off at the driver. You were probably still pissed when you started the thread so I'll give you some leeway there. Still, you really need to ride on the road, stay off the sidewalk, or find an alternate route to avoid that stretch of road. You will get hit again riding on that sidewalk.

If traffic on that road is that bad, drivers are also having to deal with it. A driver pulling out of a driveway or parking lot will be paying more attention to looking for an opening in traffic than looking out for anyone on the sidewalk.

Maybe post this in the A&S forum for more information and some useful tips on riding in higher traffic areas.
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Originally Posted by qw1a
Poor conflict resolution skills were displayed. You could have used the situation to your advantage (e.g. Gotten some cash out of her for the damaged rack). Insted, your actions were to the disadvantage of both of you.
And are still being displayed.
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Originally Posted by PJones0012
No, I wasn't looking for sympathy or anyone who simply agreed with me. I understand that there are individuals who take issue with how I reacted. You are entitled and have the right to your opinion. You do not have the right to judge or pass judgement. By making statements such as "man up and hit the streets" or "grow a pair" only proves how naive you are about bicycling in the 4th largest city in the US. I posted here because this occurred during a commute. Any further comments should be messaged to me directly and we can take the comments off forum and converse directly. That is IF you have a pair.
I am human= I can pass judgment on others. Such is life.
Anyhow, you are severely overreacting. Many of us can disagree and have arguments without actually hating the other person. Look at debate clubs for instance. Not to mention have others tell us what we are doing wrong and how to fix it. I spend my life going back and forth with my coworkers arguing and debating. Not to mention my wife. It is all part of civil discourse.
I do not dare to assume if you are a good or bad person. What you did was wrong. End of story.

If I were you I would delete the last two lines. That is childish plain and simple.

My last suggestion is if this thread is causing you such a large amount of grief in that virtually no one is supporting your actions, PM a moderator such as snowy or ronh and ask them to lock the thread.
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Originally Posted by PJones0012
No, I wasn't looking for sympathy or anyone who simply agreed with me. I understand that there are individuals who take issue with how I reacted. You are entitled and have the right to your opinion. You do not have the right to judge or pass judgement. By making statements such as "man up and hit the streets" or "grow a pair" only proves how naive you are about bicycling in the 4th largest city in the US. I posted here because this occurred during a commute. Any further comments should be messaged to me directly and we can take the comments off forum and converse directly. That is IF you have a pair.
So, only you have the right to judge or pass judgement? You have done so to the driver and to the people that have responded. This is a forum. Maybe you don't understand the concept of a forum. We are here as a community to have discussions and to learn from each other. If you just wanted to rant and show people how much of a jackass you are, you could just build a website. But that would have only showed you being an ass to the driver, not the rest of us. I for one will not message you directly. Any discussions should be done here in the open for all to see. If you want a private discussion, email your buddies, if you have any.
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Originally Posted by PJones0012
You do not have the right to judge or pass judgement. By making statements such as "man up and hit the streets" or "grow a pair" only proves how naive you are about bicycling in the 4th largest city in the US. I posted here because this occurred during a commute. Any further comments should be messaged to me directly and we can take the comments off forum and converse directly. That is IF you have a pair.
You post on here as anonymously as anyone else, then whine and insult people when they disagree with you. And don't play the "let's all PM" game -- you posted in a public thread. If you can't handle the criticism, keep your illegal riding and self-righteousness to yourself. Seriously, who needs to grow a pair?
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