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Old 03-07-08, 09:50 AM
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I need more power Scotty!

This morning I looked at the thermometer, 31*F. This is balmy, change is in the air , I'm feeling good.

I get out and start pedaling. About 3/4 of the way to work I realise that the life has been slowly sucked out of me. I hit a hill that yesterday I felt good on, I got out of the saddle and started pumping... I was like "what the heck", I feel like crap. I sat down and put it in a granny gear, and felt defeated.

I think I've discovered my problem. Today, since it was not single digits when I started, I put on a pair of shoes, instead of the hiking boots I've been wearing all winter. They are rugged athletic shoes, but definitely do not have a stiff sole. Here the are:



Intellectually, I knew that I should wear stiff soled shoes for biking. But I'm amazed at the subjective difference. I do think it is the shoes because physically I am feeling good. I ate a good breakfast this morning. I got a good nights sleep. I've basically recovered from a cold that has been hanging on.

This isn't a scientific study, but I'm fairly convinced. Looks like I'm going to get a good pair of lightweight boots for the summer. I've got freakishly wide clydesdale feet, so clip-less biking shoes are not in my future.
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There is definitely a perceptible energy loss between a rigid shoe and something with some flex IMO.
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Most athletic footwear is designed to flex exactly where you don't want them to. As for your sasquatch-like dogs, have you looked at the Sidi Mega series shoes, or Carnac? I think that if you look around, you could find something suitable in a clipless compatible shoe.
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I've wear EE width shoes and I have no problems with the Forte CM200 MTB shoes I wear. (Performance house brand. ~$40.00) You might want to give them a try.
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Thanks for the suggestions on the footwear, I'll consider it. However, I wear a 12EEEE. Even when I was a skinny lad in the Army, they had to special order my boots. The quartermasters couldn't believe I wouldn't fit the standard wide foot-gear stocked on the Post .

I'm no longer a skinny lad, and it certainly hasn't got any better .
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I've found three things that seem to give me more power:

Smaller wheels; I'm riding 16" these days!
Shorter cranks; recently put 140mm cranks on my bike, and I like them!
Lower gearing; typically spinning at 120 rpm, I think.

I used to wear stiff shoes with SPD's but I can't put SPD pedals on my folding bike, so those went into a box in the basement. Oddly, I find I don't need clips/clipless with the short crank arms.
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Have you tried something in a 13 or more? A lot of people who are wearing excessively wide shoes are wearing a size too small, and the extra width is making up for incorrect foot placement in the shoe.

Not saying that you necessarily are, or that you haven't done a careful analysis on your own. For years I thought I wore a very wide size 6. (Yes, opposite end of the spectrum...) Turns out I was supposed to be in a size 7.
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Last time I felt that way I discovered I had the slightest brake rub. Hardly anything at all, but when I fixed it I sure felt better. Not that that's what happened to you, only that it's a mazing how something like that, or low tires, can really make more difference than I'd have thought.
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Originally Posted by Banzai
Have you tried something in a 13 or more? A lot of people who are wearing excessively wide shoes are wearing a size too small, and the extra width is making up for incorrect foot placement in the shoe.

Not saying that you necessarily are, or that you haven't done a careful analysis on your own. For years I thought I wore a very wide size 6. (Yes, opposite end of the spectrum...) Turns out I was supposed to be in a size 7.
Yeah, since it's been such an issue, I've had lots of measurements over the years. The best one was at Red Wing Shoes, they have a computerized gizmo that is pretty fancy. I have actually done the opposite of what you're suggesting... I've gone to a size 13 thinking that if I couldn't find a wide enough shoe, that the bigger size would make up for it. I've had no success with that. I end up with a shoe that is too tight and too long .

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I've also since picked that shoe (from the first post) up and quite easily twisted it with my hands. The sole basically has the consistency of a "flip-flop". They are comfy, but may not be suited for the bike. They look a lot more rugged than they are...

Someone from another bicycle forum pointed me to this article from the the Rivendell Bicycle Works that says that clip-less shoes are a myth https://www.rivbike.com/article/clothing/the_shoes_ruse.

Now I'm not sure what to think! My subjective thought is that I noticed a difference in performance. Maybe it was something else ? Maybe I'm not over my lingering cold?

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Uh oh riddei...that particular article from Rivendell has been the subject of some fierce flame wars here. Duck!

Some things that Grant Peterson writes I really like...other things I don't buy. I don't buy that article, especially since I just rode platforms the other day for the first time in over a year. It was actually kind of awkward.
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Originally Posted by Banzai
Uh oh riddei...that particular article from Rivendell has been the subject of some fierce flame wars here. Duck!...

Holy great mother of God... I didn't know, maybe this will get banished to the safety and advocacy forum along with the Snowplow Buzzing Cyclist thread...

... Well I'm ready for it.

In actuality, I tend to agree with you. I felt a definate difference. I can't think of what else it could be (besides a lingering cold). I'm going back to my stiff hiking boots.

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It may not be a footgear problem at all. Sudden fluctuations in weather going from cold to warm can be the culprit. Physiological shock or some sort. I remember being at U of F in early spring. The first swipe of warmer weather would nearly deck me. I wasn't riding bikes at the time. Primarily running.


Spring Fever?
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Originally Posted by rhm
I've found three things that seem to give me more power:

Smaller wheels; I'm riding 16" these days!
Shorter cranks; recently put 140mm cranks on my bike, and I like them!
Lower gearing; typically spinning at 120 rpm, I think.
Are you sure you're not riding a unicycle?

(i know, OT, and old thread/post but I just can't believe it)
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