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Old 03-26-08, 02:08 PM   #1
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which cities allow bikes on subways/trains during rush hour?

My neighbouring city does not allow bikes on the subway during peak hours and thus a lot of people cannot bike to work due to the subway rules. I am preparing a letter for my city councillor to try to rectify the issue. I would like to include a list of a few cities maybe 10 or so? That allow bikes on their public transportation network during peak hours. The city already has bike racks on buses, but streetcars and subways do not have any facilities.

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not DC!
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I think bikes are not allowed on the T in Boston during rush hours and they are never allowed on the green line (the oldest line in the system with trains with steep stairs).

For the commuter rail around Boston, they are not allowed to travel during rush hours inbound in the morning and outbound in the evening and are allowed at all other times.

Unfortunately for cyclists and potential cyclists, the rules make sense if the trains are already packed during rush hour.
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Yup, the trains are packed with standing people as it is. I think they're a little lenient with the times as long as there's actually room for a bike--like the start and end of the "official" rush hour blocks.
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Speaking of DC, I thought that they had a provision for allowing folding bikes (probably bagged/covered as well). I'll try looking for their rule when I get home.
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Well..I just wanted to know if your city allowed it, or if anyone knew of cities which did. A simple solution to the 'packed' scenario, is to just reserve half a subway car (at the end) for bike use. that's all.
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San Francisco Bay Area:
- Caltrain (SF-Gilroy) has the famous "bike cars" that are useable at all times.
- VTA Light Rail (Santa Clara County) has bike racks that are useable at all times.
- BART (SF-East Bay) I think has some rush hour restrictions and no bike racks. I am sure someone will fill us in on this one.
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I have never seen them on Clevelands RTA Green or Red Lines (Rapid Transit), but the buses have the racks in front to carry them. Too bad---the Rapid Transit is so uch easier...

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I have never seen them on Clevelands RTA Green or Red Lines (Rapid Transit), but the buses have the racks in front to carry them. Too bad---the Rapid Transit is so uch easier...

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Denver light rail allows at all times on certain cars in specified area
Every bus has a bike rack on the front of it for 2 bikes
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Well..I just wanted to know if your city allowed it, or if anyone knew of cities which did. A simple solution to the 'packed' scenario, is to just reserve half a subway car (at the end) for bike use. that's all.
Most cities, even if they did this, would wait for the one day it's sleeting and there's only two bikes in the car, and say, "See! No one uses it- I told you having a separate car for bikes during rush hour is a waste of money!"

Then we'd be right back where we started.
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Denver light rail allows at all times on certain cars in specified area
Every bus has a bike rack on the front of it for 2 bikes
Same here, but with the proviso that they may, as they deem necessary, exclude bikes from the light rail during certain high capacity times.
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you can bring a bike on NYC transit anytime, but there are a few guidelines:

http://www.mta.info/nyct/safety/bike/index.html

it works out just fine. there is really no need for cities to come up with complicated regulations regarding bikes. let people figure it out for themselves. if it works here, i'm sure it can work most other places as well.
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Same here, but with the proviso that they may, as they deem necessary, exclude bikes from the light rail during certain high capacity times.
It's the same here... but I've never seen them actually do it. The light rail headed towards downtown in the morning is PACKED... standing room only, and I still see bikes crowded on there.
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Miami's Metrorail allows bikes on the last car at all times...
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You can take bikes on the Rapid trains most times.

http://www.gcrta.org/ro_bike.asp
Thanx! Learned sumpin' new today! Now, If I could just figure how to get my bike easily up the steps at the Puritas/W150th Station...

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Minneapolis: http://www.metrotransit.org/serviceInfo/bikeOnTrain.asp , bikes discouraged in full trains.

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- BART (SF-East Bay) I think has some rush hour restrictions and no bike racks. I am sure someone will fill us in on this one.
http://bart.gov/guide/bikes/bikeOverview.asp , first paragraph.
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the Sounder trains in Seattle :

Passengers with Bicycles: Each Sounder car is equipped with tie-downs for two standard-size bikes. To locate the proper area for bike storage, board the car at the doors marked with a bike symbol. Passengers seated in this area should move when a rider with a bicycle boards the train or when asked by the train staff or security.
There is space for four additional bicycles in the vestibule of the car immediately inside the doors. Riders who store their bicycles in this area must remain with their bicycles. Unattended bicycles are subject to removal from the train at the next station. Sound Transit will not assume responsibility for bicycles which are removed.

Bicycles should not be stored in the Senior/Disabled priority seating area. On Sounder Commuter Rail this area is immediately inside the doors which are marked with the International Symbol of Accessibility. Passengers without disabilities should vacate these seats when asked by train staff or security.

Finally, please don't ride your bicycle on the platforms.
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Anybody know about Chicago? I'm looking at colleges there (Columbia will be right downtown, but Wheaton is a little ways out) and I'd like to know about the rules for the L or whatever runs out to Wheaton. I know the buses have racks, I used them when I was there last.
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My neighbouring city does not allow bikes on the subway during peak hours and thus a lot of people cannot bike to work due to the subway rules.
You mean they cannot take a subway to work while carrying their bike.

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I am preparing a letter for my city councillor to try to rectify the issue. I would like to include a list of a few cities maybe 10 or so? That allow bikes on their public transportation network during peak hours.
I, frankly, could not imagine and certainly would not want to take a bike on a subway during rush hour. In fact, I don't particularly enjoy just taking myself there during rush hour - so damn crowded. There is no space for the bike. Even if there was a separate car for bikes (which is not going to happen, since the trains are jam-packed as it is), I'd still have a hard time just getting my bike to the platform and back.

Seriously, I don't see how this is going to be possible. The subway is coping with enough load as it is, without trying to fit bikes into it. What I would support is having covered, secure bike parking at subway stations (so you could bike to the subway and safely leave your bike there). Bike lockers are good, but you need to reserve them for long stretches - something of a drop-in nature would be nice. Maybe you could purchase a monthly pass to park at any subway station, to cover the cost of creating these parking areas.

Then there are always folding bikes.
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the Sounder trains in Seattle
Those are trains. That's quite different.

It would be nice if our local commuter train/bus company allowed bikes on trains during rush hour, and maybe set up some bike racks on their buses as well. But that's a separate issue.
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I am preparing a letter for my city councillor to try to rectify the issue. I would like to include a list of a few cities maybe 10 or so? That allow bikes on their public transportation network during peak hours.

Thanks
Forget fighting the system because they are not about to remodel their trains for bicycle commuters. Start saving your money and get one of the three bikes below

1. Brompton - The best 16' inch wheel commuter folder on the market. You're not going to get a smaller fold and people bring it on the most crowded trains around the world. This bicycle is allowed on every train in the New York Metro during rush hour.

2. Strida - If your commute has no hills, this bike is just as ideal. In fact, you should have no trouble in a packed subway car since it folds like a baby buggy.

3. CarryMe - If your commute involves no hills and you're under 5'9, this bike is also ideal. There is a weight limitation but it's the best one to take if you're trains are packed or you need to take a bus. I would only choose this bicycle if the cycling potion of your commute was under 3 miles tops.

Those are your options and they are good ones. I've ridden all three and can recommend them so don't think for a second you cannot bring a bicycle inside a packed subway car. Forget the fight and join the fold!
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Vancouver has recently lifted the ban on bikes during the rush hours, but limit cyclists to the last car. It can be really crammed though. I think they should remove all the seats from the last car for anyone with a large object such as luggage or bike etc.
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DART, here in Dallas allows bikes on all trains and buses at all times. We used to have a rush-hour ban, but they rolled it back, little by little, over the last three years.
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San Francisco MUNI permits bikes on buses only. There are bike racks on the front of most buses.
For more information on MUNI (buses only): http://www.sfmta.com/cms/bcomm/BikesonMuni.htm

Other Bay Area transit agencies have their own rules and restrictions. For more information on other Bay Area transit (BART, Caltrain, Samtrans, AC Transit, Golden Gate Transit): http://www.sfmta.com/cms/bcomm/39544.html
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