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    Dog Bite

    I was chased by a pack of 4 dogs from 1 house today. 1 of four caught me.

    I had been chased by one of the other 3 dogs before and he just ran along side me, so when I saw the other 3 coming at me this morning, I didn't get too nervous. But then they came around both sides, and while I looked to the right (to make sure I wasn't going to run into one of them) I felt one bump me on the left, so I turned my head to see him lunge at me again, and this time I felt the pinch of his teeth grabbing my calve. Still kind of in disbelief, I yelled at him, or her, or really all of them, but then it lunged again. This time I reacted, unclipped and kicked it in the head. It backed off, they all did, untill the owner came out, then they started to kind of try to circle me. I had stopped near the edge of their property, to see if I was bleeding. The owner said "don't worry they're nice dogs". I tried to convince her that I had just been bit. "oh no they're nice dogs". The dogs were still trying to circle around me, so I kept backing up into the ditch and swinging my bike at them. "Just talk to them...this one's Petey, this one's Jake..." This lady's clueless.

    She finally shut up when I was able to unzip both layers of my tights and show her the nice and red bite mark. She did not appologize, she did not offer to clean up my wound. She said "oh well your a bicycle, bicycles are a challenge". So who was the poor chopped liver soul that was easy?

    Here's is my bite. Not that bad, and I'm not even mad at the dogs, I'm mad at hell at that lady. I'm carrying my u-lock in hand when passing the house and strapping some pepper spray to my frame as soon as I get some. This is my safest route to work. My other choice is a 55mph 1 lane in each direction hwy with only a narrow (sometimes 1 foot) loose gravel shoulder. The road I was bit on this morning is a gravel road, nice and quiet country scenery, 8.2 miles of rolling hills, so I'm sticking with it.

    The thing that scared me most, was the dead skunk 100 yards past her property. After I saw that I had to call the sherrif so he could check the dogs' rabies shots. They were up to date.

    No real moral here, or questions, if people have dogs, other people will get bitten.

    Edit: 3-30-08.
    I thought I had an irritated pimple or ingrown hair on my butt today. I was going to either pop it or pull out the hair, so I looked at it in the mirror (no I don't normally look at my arse in the mirror). It's a fang puncture mark. It must have happened on the first lunge when I thought the dog just bumped me. I won't post a picture of that one (sorry ladies), although I did take a picture for posteriererity. It's not too bad yet, It's a tad bruised around the puncture, and red, so i'm putting topical ointment on it. I'm going to let the sherrif know so they can add it to the report.
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    Report the incident to animal control.

    Like most pets, if you control them they're not a danger to others. I like dogs, as long as they're not lungeing in front of my wheel.

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    Every time they chase you , report them to animal control/sheriff, depending on local code/laws. +1 to pepper spray.

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    OK, you'll need one 12" bowie knife, a hammer, some 6" nails, writing pad, and a permanent marker. Next time use the knife to slit the dog's throats, take the carcasses to the owner's house, use the writing pad and marker to write a big clear message "I guess they weren't up to the challenge", nail the carcasses with the note to the front door.
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    Quote Originally Posted by orange leader View Post
    No real moral here, or questions, if people have dogs, other people will get bitten.
    That isn`t true. If the people with dogs do what they`re supposed to do, you don`t get bitten.
    Very sorry you had an incedent today- I`ve never been bitten (by other folks` dogs, anyway) but it still irks me when irresopnsible people allow their dogs to endanger me. As a precursor to pepper spray, do you carry a water bottle? You might try giving the dogs a good dousing of water with the "weapon" that you already carry. I`m not arguing against pepper spray, but it may not be needed.
    +1 on continuing to report, also.

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    If a bicyclist is 'a challenge' then challenge dog(s) with a water ****** filled with amonia . . . more efective/cheaper than pepper spray.
    Have that wound checked at hospital and present nice lady with the bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zonatandem View Post
    If a bicyclist is 'a challenge' then challenge dog(s) with a water ****** filled with amonia . . . more efective/cheaper than pepper spray.
    Have that wound checked at hospital and present nice lady with the bill.
    I did go to the hospital. But I can't give her the bill until I speak with my insurance companies billing dept. They won't open again until monday. It's in my plans. I also intend to inform her that I and other people I work with commute that way daily, morning & evenings, (and in between when we have to go to the hospital for check-ups), so she should not have her dogs free in the yard at those times.

    I'm kind of glad it was me and not one specific co-worker who commutes on his Tadpole trike. It could have easily been his face.
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    I'm angry just hearing about this! I've made up my mind that if a dog bites me along my commute it will die. Maybe not today or tomorrow but die they shall.

    Sounds harsh but in my neck of the woods there are a lot of "drug protection" dogs around and I simply won't put up with them.

    I love dogs, have two and I always try to pet and cuddle dogs if they seem at all friendly, I even stop while riding and try.

    I have to quit reading these dog threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by orange leader View Post
    I was chased by a pack of 4 dogs from 1 house today. 1 of four caught me.

    I had been chased by one of the other 3 dogs before and he just ran along side me, so when I saw the other 3 coming at me this morning, I didn't get too nervous. But then they came around both sides, and while I looked to the right (to make sure I wasn't going to run into one of them) I felt one bump me on the left, so I turned my head to see him lunge at me again, and this time I felt the pinch of his teeth grabbing my calve. Still kind of in disbelief, I yelled at him, or her, or really all of them, but then it lunged again. This time I reacted, unclipped and kicked it in the head. It backed off, they all did, untill the owner came out, then they started to kind of try to circle me. I had stopped near the edge of their property, to see if I was bleeding. The owner said "don't worry they're nice dogs". I tried to convince her that I had just been bit. "oh no they're nice dogs". The dogs were still trying to circle around me, so I kept backing up into the ditch and swinging my bike at them. "Just talk to them...this one's Petey, this one's Jake..." This lady's clueless.

    She finally shut up when I was able to unzip both layers of my tights and show her the nice and red bite mark. She did not appologize, she did not offer to clean up my wound. She said "oh well your a bicycle, bicycles are a challenge". So who was the poor chopped liver soul that was easy?

    Here's is my bite. Not that bad, and I'm not even mad at the dogs, I'm mad at hell at that lady. I'm carrying my u-lock in hand when passing the house and strapping some pepper spray to my frame as soon as I get some. This is my safest route to work. My other choice is a 55mph 1 lane in each direction hwy with only a narrow (sometimes 1 foot) loose gravel shoulder. The road I was bit on this morning is a gravel road, nice and quiet country scenery, 8.2 miles of rolling hills, so I'm sticking with it.

    The thing that scared me most, was the dead skunk 100 yards past her property. After I saw that I had to call the sherrif so he could check the dogs' rabies shots. They were up to date.

    No real moral here, or questions, if people have dogs, other people will get bitten.
    Get yourself a Crosman C11 bb ****** for around 50.00. Takes CO2 cartridges and has an 18 round magazine. 420 ft per sec and very accurate to 30 ft. That's not a light wound on your leg. Her attitude needs to be adjusted big time. I've had to shoot three different dogs on my regular route only once per dog. They don't even bark at me anymore. Had words w/an irrate owner and I offered to call the Sherriff's Dept myself. The owner relented and I haven't had a problem since. Take command, it's a very dangerous situation and you're right, the owner's to blame. Too bad you couldn't lay a couple of rounds in her behind for her to get the message. What a completely self-absorbed, irresponsibile attitude on her part.

    BTW, Make sure if you get one of the Crosmans paint part of it bright orange, otherwise it looks like a .380 or a small .44.

    Also, I've got three medium sized pooches safely contained w/an invisible fence on about an acre.

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    File a claim with her homeowners insurance. Pretty likely she'll feel it in the pocket book then.
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    I love dogs. Love 'em.

    But man, some dog owners are such jerks.

    something like this should never happen. It is so preventable if the dogs are managed and cared for properly but when dogs go bad it sucks.

    As hard as it may be save your wrath for the dog owner. Hit her in the pocket book as hard as you see fit. If the dogs are still running loose I'd call the authorities again and I would be prepared with some pepper spray to protect myself from the unruly beasts.

    Where I vacation a few of my country neighbors have some dogs that run loose quite a bit. I leave my house and roll down such a steep hill that I'm hitting 45 mph in no time. If I nail one of those dogs at that speed it could be deadly. I actually think one of these dogs caused a fatal car wreck on our road a few years ago. I've no proof but these dogs break the cheap bits of rope and chain they are tied with and chase the few cars and trucks that come down the road ( and occasionally me on my way down- and up!- the hill). I'm pretty sure the driver in the fatal crash was attempting to avoid one of these dogs.


    So this kind of thing is no small thing it can be quite serious. I was glad to hear you got appropriate medical attention. The sooner you can clean a wound like that- even just flushing it with water the less chance for infection.

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    If a dog did this to a passing cyclist imagine what it could do a child walking past the house,
    I like dogs but hate people that cannot control the dogs they own

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    1) I would go to a doctor ASAP, so that I had a medical record of the bite.

    2) I would call the law.

    3) I would call an attorney.

    4) I would sue. Oh boy would I sue after this exchange with the owner. I have been told by an attorney that a dog bite under these circumstances is money on the table. All you have to do is pick it up.

    5) I would do nothing to the dogs, nor talk to the owner, that may hurt my case in court.

    Get your local law enforcement involved to protect yourself and other cyclists. Sue her, don't let her get away with it.
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    The manner you describe them splitting up and trying to circle you yells "PACK" to me.

    A few years back a neighbourhood collection of random dogs in a city area a few miles away suddenly turned into a pack and severley mauled a young boy that was just passing by. So this sort of thing can happen when you least expect it.

    I'm strongly suspecting that this isn't the last you'll see of this group of dogs. Don't take what appears to be a hunting action lightly.

    If it's an urban area are the yards not supposed to be fenced and gated to avoid the dogs running free on the street? I know that around here this is the case. Right there you have a valid charge you could lay.
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    Glad to hear your ok. I agree that the most infuriating part of the ordeal was the fact that the owner was so nonchalant about it all!

    Reminds me of this case (from the Advocacy&Safety board): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p12x52UzJsc


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    I got chased by a dog today so this thread hits home a little but I didn't get bitten. It was a smaller (30lb) dog. I stopped peddling and just coasted with one leg ready to strike. The owner yelled that I better not kick his dog. I told him "If you don't want your dog kicked, get it out of the F*****G road" Shortly after the property line the dog turned back, but do you think that the owner ever called the dog back? He just stood there like an idiot waiting to see what would happen.

    **EDIT** Darn you SpeedGracer; its midnight here and now I'm watching a bunch of Judge Judy shows on youtube.

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    Instead of getting even with the dogs... get even with the irresponsible owners... the owners are the ones at fault!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by orange leader View Post
    I did go to the hospital. But I can't give her the bill until I speak with my insurance companies billing dept. They won't open again until monday. It's in my plans. I also intend to inform her that I and other people I work with commute that way daily, morning & evenings, (and in between when we have to go to the hospital for check-ups), so she should not have her dogs free in the yard at those times.

    I'm kind of glad it was me and not one specific co-worker who commutes on his Tadpole trike. It could have easily been his face.
    You still need to file a police report ASAP. That will be used as evidence in any claims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buzzman View Post
    I love dogs. Love 'em.

    But man, some dog owners are such jerks.

    something like this should never happen. It is so preventable if the dogs are managed and cared for properly but when dogs go bad it sucks.
    The dog probably hasn't gone bad. The dog likely sees a strange device entering his space and is out to protect the pack (which includes the woman who thinks he's nice).

    Just because your dog is nice and sweet to you doesn't mean it won't attack your neighbor. I don't know why people are so clueless about this. Dogs aren't people.

    Or it may just be that this dog goes nuts when it sees a bicycle. Probably does the same thing with cars, but it knows it can't catch them and even if it can they don't respond to attack.
    It's a dog after all! It doesn't understand bicycles or cars.


    I actually believe the owner when she said it's a nice dog, it probably is. Just not with strangers in its space on strange devices.

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    The dogs were just being dogs. It's the owner who needs trained on responsible pet ownership: Fenced yards, leashes, dog runs, etc.
    My dog is nice, too... except when she's not. That's why I always have her on a leash when we're outside. I agree with everyone else who said it; you need to punch the owner in the wallet to teach her a lesson. File a police report and get an attorney.
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    I have to agree with the posts that say go after the owner. Killing the dog because the owner is a clueless f**kwit is just wrong. Sure, be ready to defend yourself and if the dog is so aggressive that you have to hurt/kill it, that's too bad but what are you going to do?

    But get going on pursuing this. Police report, doctor's evidence and an attorney. I've never been involved with a lawsuit in my life and am not the kind to sue over every little thing, but suing owners like this is in the best interest of the dogs. Honestly I'd start high, but at the end of the day I'd be willing to settle for court costs, medical expenses and requiring the owner to install either a real or invisible fence (the latter would involve training; require that too).
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    Being a former meter reader for a local utility all I have to say is call the police and file a report (ASAP). There's absolutely no excuse for people to let their dogs run loose. I've had my share of dog bites (none of them serious enough for an overnight hospital stay). I would also get homeowners insurance info (as mentioned above).
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    Quote Originally Posted by crhilton View Post
    The dog probably hasn't gone bad...
    by "gone bad" I simply mean a dog that bites someone- not a good thing. It probably goes to the simple praise we give to dogs- "good dog" as opposed to "bad dog". Bad dogs do "bad" things like take a crap on your new living room rug, rip your sofa to shreds or bite your neighbor's three year old in the face. In fairness to the dog it's a judgement on the dog's actions/behavior not the dog itself.

    I should be so considerate of my fellow humans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orange leader View Post
    I was chased by a pack of 4 dogs from 1 house today. 1 of four caught me.

    I had been chased by one of the other 3 dogs before and he just ran along side me, so when I saw the other 3 coming at me this morning, I didn't get too nervous. But then they came around both sides, and while I looked to the right (to make sure I wasn't going to run into one of them) I felt one bump me on the left, so I turned my head to see him lunge at me again, and this time I felt the pinch of his teeth grabbing my calve. Still kind of in disbelief, I yelled at him, or her, or really all of them, but then it lunged again. This time I reacted, unclipped and kicked it in the head. It backed off, they all did, untill the owner came out, then they started to kind of try to circle me. I had stopped near the edge of their property, to see if I was bleeding. The owner said "don't worry they're nice dogs". I tried to convince her that I had just been bit. "oh no they're nice dogs". The dogs were still trying to circle around me, so I kept backing up into the ditch and swinging my bike at them. "Just talk to them...this one's Petey, this one's Jake..." This lady's clueless.

    She finally shut up when I was able to unzip both layers of my tights and show her the nice and red bite mark. She did not appologize, she did not offer to clean up my wound. She said "oh well your a bicycle, bicycles are a challenge". So who was the poor chopped liver soul that was easy?

    Here's is my bite. Not that bad, and I'm not even mad at the dogs, I'm mad at hell at that lady. I'm carrying my u-lock in hand when passing the house and strapping some pepper spray to my frame as soon as I get some. This is my safest route to work. My other choice is a 55mph 1 lane in each direction hwy with only a narrow (sometimes 1 foot) loose gravel shoulder. The road I was bit on this morning is a gravel road, nice and quiet country scenery, 8.2 miles of rolling hills, so I'm sticking with it.

    The thing that scared me most, was the dead skunk 100 yards past her property. After I saw that I had to call the sherrif so he could check the dogs' rabies shots. They were up to date.

    No real moral here, or questions, if people have dogs, other people will get bitten.
    that dog owner is TOTALLY responsible for your injury (the owner is responsible for controlling their animals)

    I would NEVER allow something like that to happen with any of my animals.

    get a lawyer, and take her to court

    it's so cut and dried, they'll settle,....or you get a new house (hers)
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    Quote Originally Posted by nashcommguy View Post
    Get yourself a Crosman C11 bb ****** for around 50.00. Takes CO2 cartridges and has an 18 round magazine. 420 ft per sec and very accurate to 30 ft.
    Note to self:

    Patent and market a combination CO2 inflator & BB ****** before anyone else steals my idea.

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