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Old 04-11-08, 04:04 PM   #1
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securing a pannier

Hi all, I picked up a pannier the other day for $10.00 real cheap...there was a massive discount. Anyhow, it is a Voyager Radical (if that means anything to anyone).

My issue is this, the pannier simply sits on the rack.... with a tie strap on the bottom... there is nothing stopping the pannier from un-attaching itself from the rack if I hit a bump. My arkel has a nifty system where the pannier is secured on the rack...but this doesn't have anything.


Anyone have any suggestions to be able to lock or secure the pannier on the rack for the duration of the trip?


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Old 04-11-08, 04:18 PM   #2
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Can you post a picture?
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Old 04-11-08, 04:21 PM   #3
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Is it the hook and bungee system of attaching the panniers to the rack? A pair of hooks on top that hang onto the rack and another hook on a bungee that attaches at the bottom and is supposed to provide enough tension to keep the panniers secured to the bike?

The best way I have found to keep these panniers from being self-detaching is with a rubber band cut from an old inner tube on each hook.

1. Place the rubber band over the hook.

2. Place the hook over the bar on the rack.

3. Stretch the rubber band under then around and over the bar and back over the hook.

I have never had a pannier bounce off after I started doing this.
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Well I posted the pics, but i'll see what i can do about the rubber bands and hooks..but how do I attach the hooks to the pannier?

CommuterRun, can you post a pic or diagram?
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Now that I've seen the picture I see that it is a type of hook and bungee system. The hooks don't appear conducive to putting a rubber band on each one. However all is not lost.

It looks like a larger rubber band that encompasses the entire plastic piece that comprises the hooks would work.

Another option that I would consider is drilling a hole in the plastic piece between the 1st and 2nd and 3rd and 4th hooks, and use two Zip-Ties per bag for security. But using this method the bags are not going to be as easily removable from the rack.
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Maybe attaching a bungee to the "handle" on one end, behind the rack (if it fits), to the base of the rack at the other end, holding it taut vertically?
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Aw gee, now I have to get up...and go find the camera...and find batteries for it...grumble, grumble, grumble.



I took the rubber band off the hook in the lower left corner for comparison.

From your photos it looks to me like this would work with your panniers, using the whole plastic piece instead of each individual hook.
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Well I posted the pics, but i'll see what i can do about the rubber bands and hooks..but how do I attach the hooks to the pannier?
Wait a minute. Now I'm confused. The hooks are already attached to the panniers. You just want to attach the panniers securely to the rack. Right?
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Wait a minute. Now I'm confused. The hooks are already attached to the panniers. You just want to attach the panniers securely to the rack. Right?
Yes. I just want to make sure that if I hit a bump, things won't go flying. Do you have a picture of your pannier not attached to the rack, so I can see how you attached it?
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It takes a helluva bump to dislodge a hook and bungee style pannier. Curb hopping *might* do it, but normal potholes and nasty pavement won't (even if you completely skip hooking the bungee to the rack).

That said, I have a long bungee cord and a Jannd rack, so I attach the hook to a D ring on the pannier, rather than just hooking onto the rack. That way the bungee is wrapped around the rack, and it's much harder for a bump to dislodge the pannier.
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Pretty standard hook and bungee system:


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It takes a helluva bump to dislodge a hook and bungee style pannier. Curb hopping *might* do it, but normal potholes and nasty pavement won't (even if you completely skip hooking the bungee to the rack).
Not really. I have found it doesn't take much to bounce these off. They tend to stay on better with a heavier load, bounce off easier if loaded light.
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Makes you appreciate the arkel system. Although, I thought the older system (with the metal crossbar) was better than the new cam-based system.
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I like the system on my Novara Transfers too: pushbutton-release clamps on the top, and an adjustable hook (I guess you'd call it that) lower down to secure the load to the rack's vertical supports. Slightly more complicated than Arkel's, but only slightly so.
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My panniers fall off too

Just got them, and they came off with brand new gear in them when I hopped a curb on my Urban X. Luckily a super nice guy in a van chased me down to return it. I like the rubber band idea, and the better attachments on the Novara and other system you mentioned.
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I just run a strap with a buckle (Velcro strap would work too) under the rack and through the handles on the panniers and buckle across the top of the rack....secure...
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My panniers have a velcro strap on top that loops over the rack and holds them down. Very simple, easy to release, and won't allow the pannier to pop off unless you unstrap it.
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cable ties. cable ties. cable ties.
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Thanks for the tips, all. I've returned the Axiom panniers because I was kicking them. Undecided about cargo for the moment: trunk, folding basket, narrower panniers with better hooks? I'll use my backpack until it gets too annoying.
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It takes a helluva bump to dislodge a hook and bungee style pannier. Curb hopping *might* do it, but normal potholes and nasty pavement won't (even if you completely skip hooking the bungee to the rack).
I've had two bags bounce off on different occasions - one was the ol' hook & bungee setup.

I'm not interested in spending great amounts of money and not getting waterproof luggage for winter so I cobbled together these items:

MEC clips or oversize according to your rack
Nylon cleats from some boating store
These boxes, which were given to me by a friend (mine are olive green.)

Last winter they were weatherproof and durable and held the rather large & heavy SLA batteries I used for my 12v automotive lighting setup. Before I had the MEC clips I used simple metal straps to mount the boxes to the rack. This worked fine until the straps began failing from corrosion and stress.

I'll have to post photos.
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cable ties. cable ties. cable ties.
I thought of that on my system and it would work, but since I swap these panniers from bike to bike I wanted to get away from going through that many Zip-ties.

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I'll have to post photos.
Please do. I'd like to see what you came up with.
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