Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Commuting Bicycle commuting is easier than you think, before you know it, you'll be hooked. Learn the tips, hints, equipment, safety requirements for safely riding your bike to work.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 05-13-08, 11:59 AM   #1
BroadSTPhilly
The Haberdasher
Thread Starter
 
BroadSTPhilly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Philadelphia
Bikes: Panasonic AL-7000
Posts: 1,018
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Cycling affecting your driving?

Because I commute by bike and I also tend more and more to bike if I am by myself and I am not going that far I am driving less and less. I find that when I do drive my driving style is affected by my cycling. For instance I find myself slowing down for reds a longer distance than I used to and I sometimes go through orange lights that I wouldn't have tried to make before. Do you find your cycling affecting your driving?

p.s. If you ride your bike exactly like you drive your car and observe all traffic laws, I respect that but obviously this thread is not directed towards you.
BroadSTPhilly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-08, 12:17 PM   #2
Sirrus Rider
Velocommuter Commando
 
Sirrus Rider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Houston, Texas
Bikes: '88 Specialized Sirrus, '89 Alpine Monitor Pass, two '70 Raligh Twenties, '07 Schwinn Town & Country Trike, '07 Specialized Sirrus Hybrid
Posts: 2,638
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by BroadSTPhilly View Post
Because I commute by bike and I also tend more and more to bike if I am by myself and I am not going that far I am driving less and less. I find that when I do drive my driving style is affected by my cycling. For instance I find myself slowing down for reds a longer distance than I used to and I sometimes go through orange lights that I wouldn't have tried to make before. Do you find your cycling affecting your driving?

p.s. If you ride your bike exactly like you drive your car and observe all traffic laws, I respect that but obviously this thread is not directed towards you.
I find myself being more "Cycle Aware" and looking out for fellow Cyclocommuters..
Sirrus Rider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-08, 12:21 PM   #3
jpdesjar
Guest
 
Bikes:
Posts: n/a
Mentioned: Post(s)
Tagged: Thread(s)
Quoted: Post(s)
I am more careful when I drive, more aware. I feel like people drive the same whether I am in a car or on a bike, poorly.
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-08, 12:27 PM   #4
ShadowGray
I like my car
 
ShadowGray's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Bikes:
Posts: 1,747
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Well, since I don't drive daily anymore I tend to be less accurate with my lines and I tend to take more safer turns... I used to be able to drive within centimeters of another car comfortably... oh well.
ShadowGray is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-08, 12:33 PM   #5
DataJunkie
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 14,280
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I lean into my turns.
DataJunkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-08, 12:39 PM   #6
MIKEnDC
Seeing things
 
MIKEnDC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Maryland, USA
Bikes: '73 Bertin, '04 LeMond Poprad, Miyata 1000, and counting...
Posts: 518
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I had already stopped driving on anything like a daily basis for nearly a year before I started riding again. Over time, the wide use of automobiles as the basic form of transportation seemed to make less and less sense. Also, I began to see enough alternatives so that I could drop it.

As I started riding again, though, I really started to consider even more deeply the implications of the automobile in our lives, and to realize that the cost of their use runs far deeper than most of us consider for very long (the truth is ugly).

I was never a crazy kind of driver anyway, so now when I do (very infrequently) drive, there's not much change. What is different, however, is that now when I drive I feel selfish and petty, wasteful, and stupidly arrogant.

I don't like the feeling.
MIKEnDC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-08, 12:43 PM   #7
ShadowGray
I like my car
 
ShadowGray's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Bikes:
Posts: 1,747
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
There's not as much effect when you take your date out to a nice dinner on a hook-on bike as opposed to a car.

Car's here to stay..
ShadowGray is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-08, 12:47 PM   #8
sirlight
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 42
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
There have been a couple things I have noticed. I am much better to anticipate the dumb things people might do. I have also caught myself almost making left turns against the lights. My bike usually does not trigger the signals. Then there is that speeding thing. When on the bike I usually try to go as fast as I can. Not a good idea in a car....
sirlight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-08, 12:54 PM   #9
MIKEnDC
Seeing things
 
MIKEnDC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Maryland, USA
Bikes: '73 Bertin, '04 LeMond Poprad, Miyata 1000, and counting...
Posts: 518
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowGray View Post
There's not as much effect when you take your date out to a nice dinner on a hook-on bike as opposed to a car.

Car's here to stay..
Kinda' makes you wonder how we ever got along without them, doesn't it?
MIKEnDC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-08, 01:24 PM   #10
rythos42
Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2008
Bikes:
Posts: 2
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
My only motor vehicle is a scooter (limited speed motorcycle?) and let me tell you, starting to bike to work everyday has REALLY changed my driving . I feel a lot more comfortable going through turns knowing that I really _can_ do that angle on my weedy little road tires. I'm thankful for the giant mirrors that let me see behind me (need a different mirror for my bike...) really easily. And finally, I wish I had a leopard print seat cover for my bike
rythos42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-08, 01:43 PM   #11
bizzz111
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Bikes:
Posts: 519
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I stopped doing the fast paced, left lane, high stress driving since I started biking. It's just not worth it anymore. Now I cruise at the speed limit in the right hand lane like some old, retired dude from Florida. Thankfully I haven't gotten to the point where I leave my blinker on all the time.

I'm just not in as much of a hurry to get anywhere anymore.
bizzz111 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-08, 01:46 PM   #12
SDBluefish
Contrapuntal
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: San Diego, CA
Bikes:
Posts: 161
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I find I have to recalibrate my sense of speed when I drive now. I'm getting so used to seeing the road and reacting at <20 mph that when I'm going 50-60 mph things are upon me much faster. And ditto on assuming the left turn arrow isn't going to flip.

BTW the hook on bike can make an excellent impression - just gotta pick the right person! When I lived in China years ago my then boyfriend picked me up for dates on his bike all the time (I rode sidesaddle on the rear rack, which was SOP - never so much as snagged my stockings).
SDBluefish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-08, 01:50 PM   #13
Buglady
Senior Member
 
Buglady's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Calgary
Bikes: 2013 MEC Col Ltd. road bike; 2012 MEC Silhouette hybrid; 2001 Specialized Allez (too small); 1984 Raleigh 5-speed city bike; 1985 Boyes-Rosser tourer; 1976 Raleigh Twenty folding bike; 1988 (?) Kuwahara "Blaze" mountain bike
Posts: 2,303
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I get really, REALLY frustrated with having to sit in traffic instead of zipping past the bottlenecks (My main bike route completely bypasses the Glenmore Causeway, which can be a nightmare of backed-up traffic at times). And when I drive, I always find myself resenting the hassle of parking.

I haven't tried turning onto the bike path in the car yet, though...
Buglady is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-08, 01:50 PM   #14
jpdesjar
Guest
 
Bikes:
Posts: n/a
Mentioned: Post(s)
Tagged: Thread(s)
Quoted: Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by bizzz111 View Post
I stopped doing the fast paced, left lane, high stress driving since I started biking. It's just not worth it anymore. Now I cruise at the speed limit in the right hand lane like some old, retired dude from Florida. Thankfully I haven't gotten to the point where I leave my blinker on all the time.

I'm just not in as much of a hurry to get anywhere anymore.
I am with you, biking everyday has taught me to slow the pace down a bit so when I drove down to VT I was in the slow lane most of the time. This is better for gas mileage anyway.
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-08, 01:56 PM   #15
BarracksSi
Bike ≠ Car ≠ Ped.
 
BarracksSi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Washington, DC
Bikes: Some bikes. Hell, they're all the same, ain't they?
Posts: 13,858
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I've always hated traffic. I still drive just as decisively as I ever did.

Maybe the only difference is that I've found myself taking the same route home from work, which throws me for a loop because, by bike, I take a shortcut through a park -- and I certainly can't go that way by car.
BarracksSi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-08, 01:57 PM   #16
caloso
Packfodding 3
 
caloso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Sacramento, California, USA
Bikes: Ridley Excalibur, Gazelle Champion Mondial, On-One Pompino, Specialized Rock Hopper
Posts: 33,870
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 152 Post(s)
I try to time the lights now instead of dragracing from red light to red light. When you're on a bike, especially if you ride a fixed gear in the city, you start thinking about the most efficient way of getting through town. Just a nice mellow cruise, stay off the brakes, light on the gas, easy man.

And my Spidey-sense for stupid maneuvers by other drivers is way heightened.
caloso is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-08, 02:05 PM   #17
adebrunner
Senior Member
 
adebrunner's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Camp Hill, PA
Bikes: Sanwa road bike with SunTour components. Gary Fisher Joshua F1 with XTR
Posts: 167
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I go slow in the car now too. It's amazing how little you really ever NEED to be somewhere fast. I get bored in the car, though, so that's a problem. When I'm biking, I can clear my head...when I'm driving, I somehow wind up trying to do something else like talk on the phone or something.
adebrunner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-08, 02:08 PM   #18
jdcii
Can you donate today?
 
jdcii's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Northeastern, Ohio
Bikes: Not enough
Posts: 79
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
My wife yelled at me the other day, she said I "mosey" along more now. I'm not in such a hurry to get any where anymore.
jdcii is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-08, 02:30 PM   #19
starla
my nose itches
 
starla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Temple, Texas
Bikes: 1986 Specialized Stumpjumper, 2013 Redline Conquest Disc
Posts: 579
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Definitely slower, more aware of cyclists...also feels weird to be in a car after riding for long. I feel lower and really bulky and unwieldy...
starla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-08, 02:35 PM   #20
zipster
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: White Bear Lake, MN
Bikes: Klein Attitude(off-road), Cannondale M700(commuter), Nishiki Performance Equipe(Roadie)
Posts: 60
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
First all, I have not considered myself too crazy in my years before cycling, but I have become more aware and conscience of what it means to drive responsibly. Many of these observations come from what I have observed bicycle commuting. Here's my list...
  • I respect speed limits, especially in residential areas. God help the motorists that speeds down a street and kills a child while I'm around.
  • I keep an eye on motorists when they're around cyclists. I will back up the cyclist if trouble occurs regardless of who's at fault. (get plate number, be a witness, render assistance, etc.)
  • I come to a complete stop at 4 way stop sign controlled intersections and I "understand" right-of-way law.
  • I don't stop on the crosswalk when at an intersection.
  • I absolutely will not talk on a phone when driving (hands free or not).
  • If I park where there's a bike lane (a rarity) I actually look in the mirrors and over my shoulder before opening the door.
  • I feel weakened in a vehicle.
  • I don't use drive-thrus. Something just bothers me about the laziness.
  • I yield to peds at crosswalks and intersections.
  • I feel bad when peds run across a crosswalk as if submissive to motorists. Goes to show you the fear peds have with the nutcases on the roads. Peds, or cyclists for that matter, are not wasting my time if I have to wait for them.
  • I park my car and walk to the mailbox - not cross over to the opposite side of the street, roll down the window to get the mail then do some stupid backup maneuver to park in the driveway 30 feet away.
  • Oh, and I lean into my turns too.
zipster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-08, 03:07 PM   #21
Pinyon
Senior Member
 
Pinyon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Northern Colorado
Bikes:
Posts: 1,380
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Riding impacts my driving too. I:
  1. Am more careful in general, and look farther ahead, and try to anticipate other motorists actions more.
  2. Lean into my turns too.
  3. Have faster reaction times to things like green-lights than I used to. I want to GO!
  4. Play with the radio and temperature controls less than I used to.
  5. More concientious about kicking up dust on gravel roads for other cars, as well as bicyclists and pedestrians.

Pinyon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-08, 04:01 PM   #22
M_S
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 3,693
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I've found it extremely difficult to bunny hop my mom's accord. Perhaps I should try clipless gas/brake pedals.
M_S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-08, 04:32 PM   #23
roadfix
hello
 
roadfix's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Los Angeles
Bikes:
Posts: 18,588
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18 Post(s)
I point at pot holes to warn the driver behind me.
roadfix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-08, 04:40 PM   #24
AEO
Senior Member
 
AEO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: A Coffin Called Earth. or Toronto, ON
Bikes: Bianchi, Miyata, Dahon, Rossin
Posts: 12,258
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
going over 70km/h seems like warp speed.
I actually go at the speed limits.
I don't gun it when the lights change, since I know the next light is going to be red unless I do 80km/h on city streets, but reaction time from brake to gas is much faster.

You realize that there's no need to hurry to the next red light.
You wish you were on the bike that just passed you.
Seriously, when are we going to get a computer controlled rolling green light system...
__________________
Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
http://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm
AEO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-08, 05:00 PM   #25
wahoonc
Senior Member
 
wahoonc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: On the road-USA
Bikes: Giant Excursion, Raleigh Sports, Raleigh R.S.W. Compact, Motobecane? and about 20 more! OMG
Posts: 16,687
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by bizzz111 View Post
I stopped doing the fast paced, left lane, high stress driving since I started biking. It's just not worth it anymore. Now I cruise at the speed limit in the right hand lane like some old, retired dude from Florida. Thankfully I haven't gotten to the point where I leave my blinker on all the time.

I'm just not in as much of a hurry to get anywhere anymore.
Ditto...I have also sought out alternate forms of long distance transportation. I HAD been commuting home on weekends (430 miles round trip) Now I ride Amtrak it is faster, cheaper and much more relaxing! I can kick back and have a beer or two and snooze off with no worries.

Aaron
__________________
Webshots is bailing out, if you find any of my posts with corrupt picture files and want to see them corrected please let me know. :(

ISO: A late 1980's Giant Iguana MTB frameset (or complete bike) 23" Red with yellow graphics.

"Cycling should be a way of life, not a hobby.
RIDE, YOU FOOL, RIDE!"
_Nicodemus

"Steel: nearly a thousand years of metallurgical development
Aluminum: barely a hundred
Which one would you rather have under your butt at 30mph?"
_krazygluon
wahoonc is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:17 AM.