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    Psychological warfare...

    My apologies if this has already been posted, or if this is the wrong forum.

    From the Surly blog:

    "I play this little game while riding to and from work where I memorize the license plate of a passing car. When the next car drives by I memorize that one, and so on and so on. If there is an altercation, I've trained myself to look at the license plates first. So rather than use my middle finger to tell somebody how I feel, I can find out where they live based on that license plate and send them a letter of gratitude.

    Flashback 10 weeks to Valentines Day in February. I'm riding within the law and hugging the curb as much as I safely can, doing about 20mph down the street, when a car lays on their horn for a good 10 seconds. They pass me, I memorize the license plate, approach them at the red light one block down, and stare into her window. No words said, no middle finger needed, I had her plates.

    I "obtain" her name and home address (don't ask how) and write her the following letter:

    "Dear Nancy,
    Thanks for the extended horn honk this morning. It reminded me that today is Valentines Day and my wife just loves red tulips, the same red as your Cadillac. So thanks for the horn honk. Happy Valentines Day.
    - Cyclist on 66th St."

    I also enclose a fake traffic ticket and a copy of the Minnesota Department of Transportation rules of the road. No threats, other than she knows I know where she lives.

    Fast forward to last Wednesday. I'm riding to work as usual, signaling my turns, flowing with traffic and abiding by the law when a car honks. I see the familiar license plate and verify the same red Cadillac with an older blonde woman driving. I wish you all could've seen her face when she pulled along side me at the red light and I said "Hi Nancy". All she could do was grip her steering wheel, look straight ahead, and figure out how she was going to get the poop off her panty hose once she got to work.

    Score one for the cyclist. "


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    Creepy. Sounds like a theme from a made-for-television movie.

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    Stalker-Cyclist? (Kidding, by the way! Don't be offended, please)
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    Funny!!!!!!!
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    All it tells me is the a-hole didn't learn a thing with a silly letter; she still blows her horn at bikes.

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    Hacker friend? or cop friend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highcyclist View Post
    "I play this little game while riding to and from work where I memorize the license plate of a passing car. When the next car drives by I memorize that one, and so on and so on.
    I have done this before. I need to work on it some more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyMolson View Post
    All it tells me is the a-hole didn't learn a thing with a silly letter; she still blows her horn at bikes.
    That's what I get out of it as well.
    'Sure when you knew her name it might have scared her, but she didn't learn much.
    Not too much to say here

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    I'd like to do this, except I have poor short term memory...
    Definitely a better way of going about people who honk incessantly though.
    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
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    That's great, she probably has nightmares.

    I still use the finger waving, swear yelling method myself though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddyfish View Post
    'Sure when you knew her name it might have scared her, but she didn't learn much.
    She learned that she is not anonymous in her metal cage. That can have significant impact on behaviour.
    Stomping as lightly as I can...

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    I hope whomever is giving away personal information is found out and loses his/her job or even gets charged, if applicable.

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    Actually, License Plate info in a lot of states is public record.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe View Post
    Actually, License Plate info in a lot of states is public record.
    Does this mean that you can walk into the police station or DMV and they will tell you who owns those plates?

    The OP of the blog post implied that he/she gets this information in a sinister way, which tells me it's probably not an ethical practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donkey Hodie View Post
    Hacker friend? or cop friend?
    Neither is necessary. License plates are public record, though usually the state charges for access. But in many states you can just buy the database. Sometimes companies or malls will buy it so they can see if a given car in their lot belongs to an employee or not. In Michigan it's < $1000 to buy the whole database. Not worth it for one person but a few bike advocacy groups have bought them and made them available to members, and also there are places that buy them and will do a lookup for you for a few bucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ottawa_adam View Post
    I hope whomever is giving away personal information is found out and loses his/her job or even gets charged, if applicable.
    Now I'm not trying to pick a fight with adam or anything but why does it seem like lately, a lot of threads turns into a moral/ethical debate. Isn't it easier to just move onto another thread where you might be able to offer a little helpful information instead of trying to debate who's right and who's wrong? I mean, isn't that what this forum is supposed to be about?

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    That is absolutely, 100% hysterical.
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    Nice ......................................... very nice.

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    I LOLed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ottawa_adam View Post
    I hope whomever is giving away personal information is found out and loses his/her job or even gets charged, if applicable.
    There are a number of websites where anyone can reverse search a license plate number. I don't know of any that will do it for free. All that I have seen charge a fee for this service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chephy View Post
    She learned that she is not anonymous in her metal cage. That can have significant impact on behaviour.
    And yet she didn't figure it out from the letter, somehow.

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    Hmmm, trying to figure out the next step.
    You've sent the polite letter.
    Next step maybe should be a nasty letter.
    Then, if that doesn't work, an unpleasant social visit?

    Just kidding. But are you going to continue sending letters till she gets it thru her thick skull that it's you sending them?

    I love this idea, need to work on it myself, especially on that white pickup truck with the lardass behind the wheel who thinks loud horn honking and 1ft of passing room is doing me a favor.

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