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    Commuting tips from the Netherlands ;)

    Hi and greetings from the Netherlands!

    I was reading some of the posts in "Tips for new commuters" thread and couldn't help laughing
    What a difference in biking culture: wear this, always carry that, that brand bike/messenger bag etc.

    Here are some commuting tips from the country where just about everyone is born with a bicycle between his/her legs

    Any 10-15 year old bike will be just fine. It should be not flashy/expensive or this will happen:


    Maintenance. What maintenance? Yer ol' Batavus will cope with daily abuse just fine, squirt some WD40 or whatever happens to lie around when the creaking of the chain becomes too annoying and thats it, good enough for a decade or two.
    Back wheel has six missing spokes? No problem, that badly overweight friend/girlfriend can still get a ride on the rack..

    Special biking clothes? You got to be kidding! Your three piece suit/high heeled Prada's will do fine. Take it easy, don't work up sweat. That way you will be sitting at your office desk sooner than that spandex-wearing, aggressively riding fanatic who has to shower/change clothes first. Not to mention that taking it easy is also a lot safer.




    Those cheap Cheng Shin tyres (or "tires" as you say) will grip just fine:



    You are a smoker? Why not save time and have one while on the bike?


    Need that special messenger bag/backpack for some shopping? Nope, plastic bags from the supermarket will do.


    Happy cycling!

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    Fantastic!

    Thank you.

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    We don't wan't to ride your dorkbikes, eurotrash.

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    i love the smoker on a bike. Honestly I want to take up smoking just because it would be fun to do while riding.
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    pancake theoretical physics is a good new direction for this thread.

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    If only...
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    I ride my IF while smoking Montecristo's and talking on the cell

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    I LOL'd!

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    But I don't want to wear a tie to ride my bike!
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    Quote Originally Posted by envane View Post
    We don't wan't to ride your dorkbikes, eurotrash.
    Speak for your self...

    I embrace the culture that doesn't have to wear spandex in order to get to the office on a bike. Utility cycling is the piece that Americans seem to be missing.

    Cycling is regarded as a sport, so everyone has to have the newest, shiny, uber lightweight, titanium, sugar coated bicycle to ride down the bike path.

    Marketing rules the American way of thinking....And they are pretty good at it

    Go Euro's ! Someday we might catch up.

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    I know this is selfish, but I would hate to putter along in a crowd of bicycles, going 10 mph (that's 16 kph viplala ) Fewer bikes on American roads means I can go just as fast as I please.

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    Yeah but the thing you guys seem to be missing is that going fast is fun

    We have plenty of people in Toronto who ride these old creaky bikes at very casual pace and more power to them. Different riding styles for everyone

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    I hate dutch cycling utopia posts. BTW I don't think I'd call a Giant Hybrid flashy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by envane View Post
    We don't wan't to ride your dorkbikes, eurotrash.
    You don't speak for me, either.

    There's the spandex crowd who thinks these are dorkbikes, and there's the non-cyclists who think the spandex crowd are the dorks.

    I give props to them all. Love the mom's riding with kids and packages. It's fun to see bikes used as a way of life--it keeps people fit and connected with outdoors. Props to the century riders, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by envane View Post
    We don't wan't to ride your dorkbikes, eurotrash.
    Foolish one, you speaketh for your self only (and about yourself) on what "we" want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apricissimus View Post
    I know this is selfish, but I would hate to putter along in a crowd of bicycles, going 10 mph (that's 16 kph viplala ) Fewer bikes on American roads means I can go just as fast as I please.
    You think we have bicycle traffic jams?
    Nooo, you can go as fast as you want/can

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    Hello from the german neighborhood,

    I did love that!
    When I was in Amsterdam this April - yes, my bike, a cheap but fairly new Dahon Vitesse was stolen within 3 hours in the City, so I will never ever again take a bike younger than my grandma to Amsterdam City.

    Do you also have a foto with one of those nice bakkerfiets? That was the biggest difference to Germany - kids not carried in trailers or backseats but in those funny bikeboxes.

    I love those sturdy Gazelle Impalas. On my last day in Amsterdam my landlady lent hers to me and I toured North-Amsterdam and went to Monnickendam, did love that. But it was hard to have only one brake, and that being a back pedal brake....

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    Quote Originally Posted by envane View Post
    We don't wan't to ride your dorkbikes, eurotrash.
    ups. Is this the normal welcome to newbies on this forum?

    Suse

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    Quote Originally Posted by envane View Post
    We don't wan't to ride your dorkbikes, eurotrash.
    I, for one, welcome our new chain-smoking, suit-wearing, grocery bag-carrying, bicycle-riding Dutch overlords.
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    You can't ignore that our situations are very different though. Riding bikes in amsterdam is safe/easy/normal, while in the US (unless your somewhere special like portland or boulder) urban commuting requires you to be part dare-devil to put up with the terror and excitement of it all. No time to smoke a cigarrette while there's a bus, SUV mom, and an ugly intersection bearing down on me. So its quite a different experience here, and I think it comes through in our average choice of clothing and bikes. If commuting becomes more normal and safe here you will see what our average biker wears and rides change accordingly.

    That all said, i do love me some amsterdam/copenhagen/stockholm. I hope we get a little closer to those biketopias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by envane View Post
    We don't wan't to ride your dorkbikes, eurotrash.
    Quote Originally Posted by harleyfrog View Post
    I, for one, welcome our new chain-smoking, suit-wearing, grocery bag-carrying, bicycle-riding Dutch overlords.
    Glad I'm not the only one who saw the sarcasm in Envane's post, harleyfrog. It's a joke people...he jokingly criticized us, the joking criticism came back at him. Get a sense of humor.

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    What I want to know is, do they wear wooden cycling shoes in Amsterdam?
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    Quote Originally Posted by harleyfrog View Post
    What I want to know is, do they wear wooden cycling shoes in Amsterdam?
    That firm sole is very important for efficient power transfer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyPC8MyBrain View Post
    Speak for your self...

    I embrace the culture that doesn't have to wear spandex in order to get to the office on a bike. Utility cycling is the piece that Americans seem to be missing.
    Cycling is regarded as a sport, so everyone has to have the newest, shiny, uber lightweight, titanium, sugar coated bicycle to ride down the bike path.

    Marketing rules the American way of thinking....And they are pretty good at it

    Go Euro's ! Someday we might catch up.
    I'll think about that when I'm making my trip to Target and the playground with my daughter...on my creaky little hybrid bike, pulling a trailer, in street clothes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuseAnne View Post
    Hello from the german neighborhood,


    Do you also have a foto with one of those nice bakkerfiets? That was the biggest difference to Germany - kids not carried in trailers or backseats but in those funny bikeboxes.


    Suse
    You mean these?




    U can get pissed as well, and yes, you do have to pedal:

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    Is that a bicycle bar?

    What good does patron pedaling do? Does it help move the bar?
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