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Old 07-22-08, 04:03 PM
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I can't believe people are giving your kudos for your immature little stunt.
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Originally Posted by lil brown bat
Sorry if this sounds personal -- it really isn't; many people use your reason -- but I find that a flimsy cop-out, personally. People who are working at Wal-Mart and similar bastions of solid employment typically don't have a plethora of choices. It's disingenuous and verges on "let them eat cake" arrogance to pretend that their being there is a matter of "choice" like a yuppie suburbanite's "choice" between latte and cappuccino. Wal-Mart is cheap; compassion is cheaper.
Agreed. Most folks are not working there because NASA was not hiring that day.
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Originally Posted by ReachHigher
yea I forgot that I was arguing with people who drive to a job that makes $5.75 an hour when gas costs $4.22 a gallon. Logic clearly isn't these people's strong suit.
$5.75 an hour********** $4.22 a gallon**********

Where the heck do YOU live???

WalMart here pays $10 an hour and gas is $3.99.
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the only times I would have to go to walmart would be late at night. there is no way i am leaving my bike outside locked or otherwise. so in it goes sometimes with a child in the trailer. no one ever has raised more than a weak objection. its attitude i think. People are sheep. pretend to be the wolf and you can get away with a lot. walk in like you own the place and they will treat you as if you do.
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Originally Posted by ReachHigher
So I generally choose not to patronize walmart for several moral reasons...but today I was in desperate need of some CD-Rs so I could mail a file to my university and the only place anywhere near me that sells them is Wally world. So I grudgingly got on my bike and made the 4 mile ride on some pretty dangerous roads only to find that they have no form of bike rack whatsoever. That's typical for this area so I've become used to just taking my bike into stores...in fact I usually use the basket on the back as a shopping cart.

So I walk into the walmart and the most evil grandmother I've ever met grabs my arm with her claws and says I can't bring it into the store. I explained to here there was nowhere outside to lock it up and that I had brought it into that particular store with no problem. She insisted that I had to leave it in the foyer and I calmly said that I wasn't going to leave a 600 dollar bike just sitting in the foyer and that I'd like to speak to her manager.

So the manager comes out and says I can't bring the bike into the store, so I explain to her that there are safe places for people who drive to lock their cars but there is no safe place for me to lock my mode of transportation. She says that I should have driven there I told her that I didn't own a car and that my bike was my only form of transportation and I couldn't risk having it stolen. She said I couldn't bring it in because they sell bikes in the store. So I said but those bikes don't look anything like this and this is clearly not a brand new bike, so why is that a problem. She insisted that for the safety of the other customers I couldn't bring it inside, so I asked her why she thought a bike controlled by an adult was more dangerous than a shopping cart being pushed around by someone's bratty kids. So she switched back to the excuse that they sell bikes in the store so I couldn't bring another bicycle in. I was starting to get really frustrated since I had ridden all the way there seemingly for no reason, so I asked her if they also sold shirts in the store. She said yes so I took off my jersey and said well then I'd better not bring this in either. She got kind of flustered and said that it was a different situation but couldn't explain why. So I said that if they also sold shorts in the store that I'd better not wear those in either and I took off my shorts. Same goes for the shoes and sunglasses. Now I'm standing there in my spandex and a sports bra and I ask here if I can leave my things behind the customer service counter where they will be safe until I finish making my purchases and she said that I couldn't come into the store without shoes on, to which i responded "but I certainly can't wear shoes into the store because you sell those here and someone might think I've stolen them." She threatened to call security if I didn't leave so I told her that I would never be coming back to that store again and that I was glad I hadn't driven there since the gas to go four miles was probably more expensive than what her underpaid employees make in an hour.

Her expression when the shirt came off was absolutely priceless...I was pretty tempted to take off the spandex too but I wasn't sure what constitutes indecent exposure in Virginia so I figured I'd err on the side of caution. Still I had a decent sized crowd gathered before the end of the discussion. Anybody else have issues with Satan's superstore?
Wow I wish I had been there

Oh and I agree, we need some pics
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Where I live, Wal-Mart pays $7.00 an hour and gas is $4.05.

The problem is, most Wally employees (and other low-income people) all drive giant pick-up trucks that get crap mileage. Of course, all of our Wal-Marts are in the city and accesible by bus (if you work within the 7.5 hours that the busses run) and some are even along designated bike routes.

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Originally Posted by lil brown bat
Sorry if this sounds personal -- it really isn't; many people use your reason -- but I find that a flimsy cop-out, personally. People who are working at Wal-Mart and similar bastions of solid employment typically don't have a plethora of choices. It's disingenuous and verges on "let them eat cake" arrogance to pretend that their being there is a matter of "choice" like a yuppie suburbanite's "choice" between latte and cappuccino. Wal-Mart is cheap; compassion is cheaper.
Notice the "some" that was in italics? They were making the same point you did, but in a more compassionate way.

I'm one of those people that's pretty involved in the community, and every year for the last 6 or 7 years I've lined up volunteers to ring the bell for the Salvation Army for one of the local service clubs. The one request I've consistently heard is to not have us go back to Walmart. Everyone that went there hated it because the customers were so unpleasant. Some were pretty nice, but enough of the rest of them lacked enough compassion that we've gone elsewhere since the year we were at Walmart.
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Originally Posted by lil brown bat
Sorry if this sounds personal -- it really isn't; many people use your reason -- but I find that a flimsy cop-out, personally. People who are working at Wal-Mart and similar bastions of solid employment typically don't have a plethora of choices. It's disingenuous and verges on "let them eat cake" arrogance to pretend that their being there is a matter of "choice" like a yuppie suburbanite's "choice" between latte and cappuccino. Wal-Mart is cheap; compassion is cheaper.
Okay, let's try it this way:

There are some people who genuinely have very few choices, and I certainly have compassion towards anyone who can't hold down a better job for legitimate reasons. I don't think that all poor people are lazy, that's simplistic thinking.

Someone might have the best reason in the world for having to work at such a place, and I certainly feel for such a person and I hope they can find a way out of their bad situation. I could be in such a situation myself one day, any of us could be.

When you put on a uniform, you are a representative of your employer. That entails a small share of responsibility for your employer's actions and policies - and you get some of the blame as well, no matter your reasons for working there.
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heh, my job forces me to have to go into several wal-mart locations during half of the year .. often times carrying stuff in that they sell as well (that we did not buy there of course) ...

i can not begin to count the number of times i have had those 'greeters' try to stop me at the door ... i do not even pay them attention, and just keep walking ... if they chase me down i still keep walking .. and all i say to them, is if they have an issue with me .. to tell a manager to find me ...

i run into the same things when i am carrying stuff out of the store as well ... depending on what it is ... often times i will offer to just leave it with them (if it is trash) ... or i just tell them that i did not buy it from them and keep walking ...

i really dislike wal-mart ... but eh, its part of my job .. so i just have to deal with it.

on that note, one of the ones i have to go into though, does have bike racks out front ... so it is more location dependent i guess.
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It's strange.
Why did you buy a $600 bike for commuting if you can't leave it locked to a light pole or a similar object and always have to bring it inside? Buy a $125 Walmart commuter bike and have no problems.

Probably, the Walmart workers have to pay for the stolen goods. Why can't they stop suspicious people?
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Originally Posted by no motor?
Notice the "some" that was in italics? They were making the same point you did, but in a more compassionate way.
Who they?

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I'm one of those people that's pretty involved in the community, and every year for the last 6 or 7 years I've lined up volunteers to ring the bell for the Salvation Army for one of the local service clubs. The one request I've consistently heard is to not have us go back to Walmart. Everyone that went there hated it because the customers were so unpleasant. Some were pretty nice, but enough of the rest of them lacked enough compassion that we've gone elsewhere since the year we were at Walmart.
Your point is?
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Originally Posted by Barabaika
It's strange.
Probably, the Walmart workers have to pay for the stolen goods. Why can't they stop suspicious people?
Probably not.
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Originally Posted by -Devil-

on that note, one of the ones i have to go into though, does have bike racks out front ... so it is more location dependent i guess.
Or it's required by locale statute.
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Originally Posted by charly17201
$5.75 an hour********** $4.22 a gallon**********

Where the heck do YOU live???

WalMart here pays $10 an hour and gas is $3.99.
Well gas is $4.22 at the Exxon by my apartment although in the DC Metro area i've seen it range from around 4.12 to 4.31, and the minimum wage (which is what I'm assuming a greeter makes) was 5.75 last semester (I know, thats what my university paid me to wipe the sweat off the machines in the gym), but I know that it was scheduled to go up to somewhere around 6.15 so that may have already happened.

Looking back on it, it was kind of an immature thing to do (although it was still loads of fun)...in my defense I tried not to give either of the ladies too hard of a time (I'm a lover not a fighter) and I was very careful not to raise my voice or use too condescending of a tone. I certainly didn't expect to win the argument that way, it was more of a visual representation of the flaws in their logic. If they had given me a legitimate reason why bringing my bike into the store would be dangerous or otherwise harmful to their business I certainly would have just apologized and left. I certainly wouldn't consider it throwing a tantrum...the crowd (of like 6) gathered because of my rather peculiar dress (and I'd like to think attractive buns of steel) rather than raised voices or any sort of scene.

As to other places to lock up, there were a few stop signs scattered throughout the parking lot but they were all in kind of hazardous locations (far from security cameras, sandwiched between a pedestrian walkway and a curb, in range of getting hit by a car door etc). I certainly wasn't there looking for a fight and definately would have rather locked it up outside than mess with that scary granny.

I'm kind of liking the social discussion going on here as well...like I said WalMart is pretty much a desperate last resort for me...I've seen that movie as well and I have a homeless friend who was seriously screwed over by the way WalMart treats it's employees.
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Still waiting for the pic.......

Seriously, I read all of these dumb post, just to see some skin!
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Originally Posted by neilfein
Okay, let's try it this way:


When you put on a uniform, you are a representative of your employer. That entails a small share of responsibility for your employer's actions and policies - and you get some of the blame as well, no matter your reasons for working there.
I get that and agree. But most entry level employees are pretty disengaged in that manner; if not actively disengaged.
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Originally Posted by Barabaika
It's strange.
Why did you buy a $600 bike for commuting if you can't leave it locked to a light pole or a similar object and always have to bring it inside? Buy a $125 Walmart commuter bike and have no problems.

Probably, the Walmart workers have to pay for the stolen goods. Why can't they stop suspicious people?
Thankfully the bike was a birthday gift...I'm a pretty big cheapskate and I have a hard enough time justifying buying a new pair of flip flops when the old ones get holes (thats what duct tape is for, right?) Also my commute is 32 miles RT so I'm sure a wally special would be a bit more trouble than it's worth and ultimately more expensive to maintain. I certainly hope WalMart employees don't have to pay for stolen goods, although I wouldn't put it past the corporate monster. Not sure how that matters though unless you think I look suspicious in my spandex and undies
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Love the walmart is evil or I hate walmart which is usually followed by a but...If walmart really was that bad you'd have no problem staying the hell away.

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I can't fathom why you're being praised for throwing a temper tantrum. You should be ashamed of yourself.
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Originally Posted by lil brown bat
Who they?

The original poster.

Your point is?
Compassion is lacking not only with those of us who's luck/choices in life allow us to avoid shopping in a store that's done so much damage to the economy, but also among those who's luck/choices in life require them to shop or work there. Compassion should be a universal concept shouldn't it? After all, it's cheaper than Walmart.
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pics or it didn't happen.
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Originally Posted by genec
So who the heck shops there???
Beats me. They are located way out in the middle of nowhere and it's a hassle to buy anything at them because they are huge and you are supposed to walk around them pushing a damn cart. A friend took me to one 20 years ago in Kansas, and asked me what I thought. I said that they might work well in economically depressed parts of the rural Midwest, but nobody back East would put up with that inconvenience to save a few pennies.

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Originally Posted by ews
I can't believe people are giving your kudos for your immature little stunt.
Troll!

Awesome story. Been there, can't say I've done that. I once offered to be escorted throughout the store because they wanted me to leave my bag with my laptop inside with the greeter. When I asked if they would be responsible for any damage or loss incurred they allowed me through. After that I left anyway and went to Dillon's
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I am not sure Walmart is totally to blame but where I grew up the disintegration of small towns is often linked to Walmart, Sams club etc.

I grew up in Chinook, Mt. and just got back from a visit As a kid the population was about 2000.....now it is down to under 1500...the football team plays 8 on a side. As a kid there were 2 grocery stores, 2 drugstores, 3 hardware stores, 3 lumber yards, several clothing stores...and so on. now there is 1 grocery store, 1 drug store, 2 hardware stores and no lumber yards or clothing stores, The next town down the road, Havre, was the big town, maybe 8-10 thousand population. it is now down to one grocery store and a walmart.

Certanily walmart is not soley to blame, much of this is simple loss of population as there is limited economic growth in a ranching and farming community. More reliable cars and peoples willingness to drive 40 to 280 miles round trip for shopping is also part of the problem.

Many local people are making more effort to shop locally, but it can be hard when Walmart is either much cheaper or has much better produce than the local grocery store.

No simple answer, but i did see some glimmers of hope....I saw way more adults riding bikes than I recall before, there is the start of a farmers market (mostly from a Hutterite colony) and more farmers are going organic....it takes 3 to 5 year to get certified for wheat, but organic wheat then sells for a lot more a bushel.
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Originally Posted by Alathea
Pic's or it didn't happen!

Seriously though, in Rural NE sometimes WM is it. OR joining the Army, which is what I did because it paid better at the time. While some employee at WM can't make decisions, the Managers have an awful lot of latitude to make your (employee) life suck if they want to, and in the WM realm, the GM of a store is next to god.

Of course, I worked LP, which is outside of the management arc of WM so I could supersede them if necessary to investigate loss, or fire someone, if I had to. It still paid crap, though, for as much responsibility as I had.

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So moving to a another place is not an option?

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