Nozzle

Just discovered this jewel: https://www.raleighusa.com/bikes/road/clubman/

This ranks among the better looking steel road bikes I've seen in a while. Will definitely be on my list when I go shopping this spring

Yan 

That's a Brooks Swift. Nice. What's the tire and fender clearance on it?

amckimmey

That's really nice looking. It is a nice addition to there steel frames. I wouldn't mind getting one at all. Maybe up it to 105 & it would be a real Clubman. I like the traditional semi horizontal drop outs.

With a pump as an added bonus.


I cant wait to hear the first real review on this bike.



They did decent on the updates to there other steel frames.

One Way - Lost the horizontal drop outs that it had before(kind of sad) maybe just for the idea that it was hard to get the wheel changed with. he fenders on. New color as well(very nice) Added pump on there as well


Rush Hour - No change to the frame i think, just the look. Went with the trend. Anodized componets(the track bars are new) along with cross brakes.


Sojoum - Nothing changed on this at all, not even the color(witch i think is good) added pump


Next up for them are some real classic steel cruisers & city bikes.

Back to the roots.

Schwinnrider

I'm glad they changed the color of the One Way. Not that I didn't like it, but it was exactly the same as my Gunnar. :-)

One would think the next logical step for Raleigh would be a new Sports. How about a traditionally styled 3 speed(or 8-9 speed?) but with improved braking and materials? Retro is cool now. And Sports are cool.

wordsofglass

Anyone know if these are made in China like the One Way? Looks pretty sweet... although I'd kinda been hoping the new clubman would have an IG hubgear...

JeffS

I think the following are impressive as well, though the detour has been around.

Superbe (although the fenders are a clear mistake)



non-stepthrough Superbe probably uses this frame:





Detour Deluxe

JeffS

A couple of shots here:

https://raleighcommutes.blogspot.com/...oto-shoot.html

Nozzle

The new color of the One Way is nice, but I still prefer the 2008 scheme (hard to tell from this picture but it's dark green):


I REALLY like that this model has disc brakes and dynamo hub for the light system. Still it's a very upright commuter and didn't feel very fast when I tried the 2008.

rugerben

That sojourn looks awesome. I wonder why I've never noticed it before.

taliesin

The new Clubman looks great except for the wheelset. Joytech hubs and Freedom rims laced with generic spokes? I'd rather get a decent wheelset on an OEM bike and buy the Brooks later as an upgrade.

wordsofglass

Come to think of it...and except for the Brooks, (oh, and the pump!) not sure why one would get this over the Masi Speciale CX except maybe price...we'll see about that when it starts hitting stores. Masi store locations is still tough these days though...

JeffS

Why would you word it that way?

Ask the opposite... why would you buy the Masi over this? Hell, the nearest Masi dealer is what, 90 miles away from you? That should be enough reason.

The only reason I need is the canti brakes.

d2create

The clubman needs a quill stem.

wordsofglass

I guess it depends how much you dislike cantis. Masi's wheelset is better, the 105 upgraded rear derailleur doesn't hurt either. The paint job is pretty nice, though it might be a little flashy for some. I know the Masi is made in Taiwan, whereas the Raleigh One Way was made in China and I'm guess this will be as well. Also, I don't live in Raleigh anymore, and I have Masi dealers within 20 miles. I must admit that I disliked the cantis on my old Fuji touring though...

M_S

Eff that, I want their new 5 grand steel 29er.



A boy can dream, anyways.

But the One way would still be the perfect town bike/commuter for me. With a few parts swaps I could even use it for ss cyclocross.

Sixty Fiver

I really like the new Raleighs and only wish that dealers here would start carrying them again.

d2create

So what's wrong with cantis? I had those on my Atlantis and now I have regular road calipers on my AHH. It all feels the same to me.

wordsofglass

I've had them be a real pain to adjust when I had an older Fuji touring. Calipers were easier and more reliable, I thought. New ones are probably better, though.

kila kila kila

I think it's great that Raleigh dumped senseless fashion and went w/ forward facing, semi-horizontal dropouts. As you pointed out, it makes wheels easier to remove w/ full fenders. But more importantly, the angle of the dropouts allows you to change the rear cog while still keeping the brake pads properly aligned with the machined surface on the rims, something you can't really do w/ track ends when making a big change in gearing.



And, does anyone know if Raleigh will sell just the frames?

JeffS

My problem with canti brakes is the adjustment. It just annoys me. Compare the time it takes to replace brake pads in caliper brakes with the time to replace them in cantis.

I would guess that the long reach brakes on your AHH probably don't have the best mechanical advantage either - making them feel weaker than a short-reach caliper. No personal experience though.

grolby

Actually, the previous version had track ends, not horizontal drop-outs. That was much sadder - the ONLY reason to put track ends on a road-going singlespeed is trendiness. It looks like the new version is equipped with true horizontal dropouts - a much more intelligent design decision. It makes the bike about a million times more attractive to me. Track ends on anything other than a track bike are pretty awful. Getting the wheel off in a bike shop is a PITA, on the road it would be a nightmare.

powerband

Agreed. It is why I'm having my custom fixed/single speed bike frame made with horizontal dropouts.

amckimmey

Actually, the previous version had horizontal drop-outs. If you don't realize what horizontal is then I guess you wouldn't realize what they are. "Track ends" ARE "horizontal drop-outs". Horizontal drop-outs(track end for some people) have many real places to be used, such as single speed bike, fixed geared bikes, track bikes, along with any bike with a internal gear hub. Mountain bikes uses them, Children bikes, BMX, Road bikes, all uses them at some point. Reason being its easier to tension a chain with it.
They also do you semi horizontal on some modals of internal gear. It still pretty easy to tension.
Vertical drop out's are what are on most modern road bikes now.

They went with the forward facing semi-horizontal to make it easier to get the wheel off with the fender still one(witch now they have complete full size fender on back, witch would make it harder with rear facing horizontal). It's was kind of something that people complained about the last 2 year modals of the bike. They didn't change it for any trend reasons, that's just stupid to say. And not to be mean they don't care if one more man(who wont buy the bike even) is more attracted to it.
Along with adding another braze-on to the drop out to have fenders & rack in different hole(they didn't have that before). Making that bike better for commuting.

I actually wanted to 08 model, but never got it because the price was so much(I also found a better bike) but I have still considered it, but with that new drop-out it lowered my interest, DAM. But that new color brings it back up.

joshuastar

you should read this. and also this.

and grolby/powerband:
removing a wheel/changing a tire is not "a nightmare" with fork ends. since you typically find these on a single speed/fixed gear bike, you only have one chainring and one cog/freewheel to deal with. it's extremely simple to loosen the axle (or flip your QR) and use the slack to derail the chain on the chainring side. takes less than thirty seconds.

with such a simple drivetrain, putting it back on is just as easy.

icedmocha 

Any idea on pricing? I like the clubman.