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    anybody with ISM Sport or ISM Touring saddle?

    Have any of you used the ISM Sport or Touring saddles like this one: http://www.ismseat.com/sport_saddle.htm ?

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    These saddles are basically gimmicks.

    One of the myths of saddle pain is that it's caused by pressure. Actually, most saddle pain is caused by friction. When you pedal, the inside of your clothing rubs against parts of your body most people don't like having rubbed (at least when they're riding their bikes). This frictions creates minor skin irritations that can turn into abrasions called saddle sores.

    The problem with removing the nose of a saddle is that the nose is actually a critical element of controlling the bike. You steer with your hips as much as with the handlebars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCjolsen View Post
    These saddles are basically gimmicks.
    Thank you for your cautionary warning, but I was seeking input from people who have actually tried this particular saddle, not from people opposed to such saddles in theory. I know you were trying to be helpful, but your comment about gimmickry might have dissuaded other people from replying who actually like the saddle but would not want to be thought of by cycling "experts" as having been conned into buying a "gimmick." Saddle choice is intensely personal, not abstract.

    most saddle pain is caused by friction.
    I am not at all concerned with saddle pain. I am concerned with the absence of pain - i.e., temporary numbness owing to blood flow to critical areas being cut off.

    the nose is actually a critical element of controlling the bike
    I am well aware of that, which is why I am seeking advice on this particular saddle, which retains a partial nose, rather than on the bench-style noseless saddles.

    Now, I ask again: has anybody had direct experience with the ISM Sport or Touring saddles? Feel free to PM me if you are concerned that nay-sayers will impose a blot on the escutcheon of your cycling honor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCjolsen View Post
    The problem with removing the nose of a saddle is that the nose is actually a critical element of controlling the bike. You steer with your hips as much as with the handlebars.
    Yeah, but the problem with using the nose of the saddle to control the bike is that you have to control the nose of the saddle with certain other "critical elements". It's been well established in the medical community the kinds of health problems traditional cycling saddles cause. I can understand folks that just don't see the need because they are perfectly comfortable, but if you're choosing to ignore even the slightest discomfort for the sake of a little bit of extra control then you must be a masochist.

    Quote Originally Posted by JeffCF View Post
    Now, I ask again: has anybody had direct experience with the ISM Sport or Touring saddles? Feel free to PM me if you are concerned that nay-sayers will impose a blot on the escutcheon of your cycling honor.
    I have the ISM adamo racing saddle and I love it.

    I bought it for my folding bike, not for comfort reasons, but because the nose of the saddle was preventing me from getting a more compact fold. I figured since the saddle is marketed as being so comfortable I would go with the lightest model and pray that the hardness of the saddle be balanced out by the comfort design. While I have to admit that the racing saddle beats me up a bit, due to the design it beats me up in only those places where my body is designed to handle it (leaving the "critical elements" completely untouched) and the end result is that I feel much better riding it than any other saddle I've ever tried.

    Sorry I haven't tried the touring or sport models to comment specifically, but given how pleased I am with my race saddle I imagine they're everything they're cracked up to be and the sport model is at the top of my list for upgrading the saddle on my other bike.

    Just a heads up: I highly recommend ordering from bikeisland.com because they offer a no questions asked return policy and free shipping on all their items (so if you don't like it you can send it back and get something more traditional like a brooks without breaking the bank).
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    Ouch, buy a brooks

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    Experience

    I received the ISM Adamo Touring Saddle in the mail this week. Put it on and it has immediatley changed riding for me forever!! It allows me to sit in a rather up right position and with no pressure in between the thighs. If you are planning on riding with no hands, like the cool kids, this is not the seat for you. If you are looking to have a comfortable ride that goes longer than you have before with less pain than you can imagine, go with it!! Does take a bit of getting used to but i immediatley like it better than any other saddle I have used.
    Good Luck!

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