Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Commuting
Reload this Page >

All Season Road Tire Recommendation

Search
Notices
Commuting Bicycle commuting is easier than you think, before you know it, you'll be hooked. Learn the tips, hints, equipment, safety requirements for safely riding your bike to work.

All Season Road Tire Recommendation

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-07-08, 10:08 PM
  #1  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 31
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
All Season Road Tire Recommendation

I commute to work daily on a single speed/fixed converted steel road frame here in the NYC. This year I am planning to commute through the entire winter and was wondering what a good recommendation for tires may be. My rims are Mavic CXP 22 so I cannot put any beefy 700x30's on or anything like that. Also, in NYC, the roads are rarely covered in snow and I will probably just take the subway on real crappy days so I don't need any studs. Currently I have a pair of Michelin Pro Races (700 x 23), which are slicks and I fear a small patch of ice could send me flying. Any recommendations on a tire with decent tread perhaps in 700x25 that would be suitable for my purposes?

Thanks!
Musical is offline  
Old 12-07-08, 10:13 PM
  #2  
12mph+ commuter
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Oak Park, IL
Posts: 863
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
The only kind of tire that will protect from black ice is studs. Increasing width/adding knobbies won't really make any difference.
Scheherezade is offline  
Old 12-07-08, 10:34 PM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
CliftonGK1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 11,375

Bikes: '08 Surly Cross-Check, 2011 Redline Conquest Pro, 2012 Spesh FSR Comp EVO, 2015 Trek Domane 6.2 disc

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 7 Times in 6 Posts
Originally Posted by Scheherezade
The only kind of tire that will protect from black ice is studs. Increasing width/adding knobbies won't really make any difference.
+1
Short of studs, nothing will keep you from sliding out on a patch of ice.
CliftonGK1 is offline  
Old 12-08-08, 12:16 PM
  #4  
bored of "Senior Member"
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: MD / metro DC
Posts: 2,883

Bikes: Cross-Check/Nexus commuter. Several others for various forms of play.

Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 642 Post(s)
Liked 593 Times in 453 Posts
Question about treads --

I understand that on wet pavement aquaplaning is a non-issue for bike tires due to the shape of the contact patch, psi, etc. Treads do not add traction over slicks, and may actually detract.

That would seem to me to suggest that treads are irrelevant for the OP's situation. Barring an off-road-ish situation where you want lugs to lock up with soft dirt, snow, etc., (which OP will avoid), it is either to stud or not to stud for black ice. Tread pattern is moot.

Is there a nuance I'm missing?
slcbob is offline  
Old 12-08-08, 02:13 PM
  #5  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 31
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanks for the input. So if someone could tell me what makes a tire "4 season" like Continental's Grand Prix 4 seasons, I would be interested in knowing. Are tires more subject to punctures in the cold air? Seems like for my purpose I just keep the slicks on and my eye to the road for any icy spots. 18 degrees this morning....it was a cold one.
Musical is offline  
Old 12-08-08, 02:40 PM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 1,840

Bikes: Bianchi San Remo - set up as a utility bike, Peter Mooney Road bike, Peter Mooney commute bike,Dahon Folder,Schwinn Paramount Tandem

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by slcbob
Question about treads --
That would seem to me to suggest that treads are irrelevant for the OP's situation.
My view goes like this - as far as traction goes, the pressure exerted on the road by a bicycle tire is huge compared to most automobile tires (much, much smaller contact patch), and the rubber will deform into the contours of the road surface, and this is what will give you the bulk of your traction.

A separate, but equally important issue for a bicycle tire is sensitivity to punctures and length of wear. To get long wearing, sturdy tires requires more bulk of rubber on the tire. I believe that there are issues with making a very thick rubber tire with no tread, so tread is almost a byproduct of the manufacturing process when making a sturdy tire.

That said, I commute on Schwalbe Marathon Plus's and get several thousands of miles on them, and have yet to have a flat on a SMP. I use them year round, although I avoid riding on the really icy days.
sauerwald is offline  
Old 12-08-08, 02:45 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
 
hornytoad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: petit valley, rotat
Posts: 125

Bikes: cervelo r3, cervelo team soloist, yeti 575, bianchi san jose

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
i'm rollin these in 700x25

https://www.biketiresdirect.com/pscma...us_700c/pp.htm
hornytoad is offline  
Old 12-08-08, 02:50 PM
  #8  
tsl
Plays in traffic
 
tsl's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 6,971

Bikes: 1996 Litespeed Classic, 2006 Trek Portland, 2013 Ribble Winter/Audax, 2016 Giant Talon 4

Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 76 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 14 Times in 9 Posts
Originally Posted by Musical
So if someone could tell me what makes a tire "4 season" like Continental's Grand Prix 4 seasons, I would be interested in knowing.
According to Continental's web site, the rubber compound retains its grip at lower temperatures.

The compound has also been modified for all-year-round use. YouŽll cover more kilometres on the Grand Prix 4Season and won't have to worry about the tire compound hardening and thus the grip performance decreasing.--Grand Prix 4-Season web page
On this page, it's referred to as "our wet specific GP4Season".
tsl is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.