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    Bikes really don't belong on the roads.

    Ok. I've been commuting for a year and a half now through all seasons and on both road and trail. After all this I have determined that bicyclists really don't belong on the road. All we do is impede traffic, annoy drivers and contest roads. The externalities caused by on-road bike commuting are too many and the overall social effects net harm. Stay off the roads and make the world a better place.
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    I'll start riding through your yard tomorrow so I can be off the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enine View Post
    I'll start riding through your yard tomorrow so I can be off the road.
    That's fine. At least on my yard your only threat is dog poop. And on my yard you're not in anyone's way.
    "When you are chewing the bars at the business end of a 90 mile road race you really dont care what gear you have hanging from your bike so long as it works."
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    We must have an April Fool here!

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    Happy April

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    Ah this is April 1, like grounhawg day, but with TROLLS instead. *yawn*

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    Quote Originally Posted by enine View Post
    I'll start riding through your yard tomorrow so I can be off the road.
    Oh SNAP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack002 View Post
    Ah this is April 1, like grounhawg day, but with TROLLS instead. *yawn*
    Please refrain from personal attacks. Thank you.
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    Well if this were funny I could undersrand its misperception as a "joke". It apparently y'alls sense of humor is as broken as your sense of respect for fellow commuters (see, that word is meant to imply more than just people who ride bikes to work). I've gotten over myself and my inflated sense of self importance. Why can't you??
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcheung View Post
    Well if this were funny I could undersrand its misperception as a "joke". It apparently y'alls sense of humor is as broken as your sense of respect for fellow commuters (see, that word is meant to imply more than just people who ride bikes to work). I've gotten over myself and my inflated sense of self importance. Why can't you??
    After my initial shock I thought it was pretty funny. Great April fools joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MulliganAl View Post
    After my initial shock I thought it was pretty funny. Great April fools joke.
    I guess it's easier to deflect than actually address the issue.
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    Okay. Everybody's entitled to his own opinion. The OP figures bike commuters don't belong on the road. That's his business. I guess he can stay off the road.

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    The roads are for motor vehicles...not Peter Pans who never grew up playing on their toys.
    The sooner you all accept that, the better off you will be. You are not me, so please, for your own safety, quit trying to be like me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chipcom View Post
    The roads are for motor vehicles...not Peter Pans who never grew up playing on their toys.
    The sooner you all accept that, the better off you will be. You are not me, so please, for your own safety, quit trying to be like me.
    Too many cars and trucks on the road.
    Can you recommend a good Sidewalk Bike?

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    where else can I ride? at least half of my ride does not include a sidewalk, I would need to ride an extra 3 miles to stay off the road, and I am not willing to make that kind of a sacrifice so that the well oiled traffic machine can operate .001% better. I have nothing against the drivers on the road and I even try not to hold it against them when they do dumb stuff, but I refuse to ride extra distance making my commute longer just so that a bunch of people in their cars can get to work 1.5 seconds faster, because thats about how long it takes to pass me on the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcheung View Post
    ...and the overall social effects net harm. Stay off the roads and make the world a better place.
    I think you are talking to the wrong commuter community.

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    Okay.
    Build me an elevated bike path above all the streets in chicago and I will use it.
    Your argument (if not a joke) is unfounded. Most cycling laws prove this.
    Ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcheung View Post
    Ok. I've been commuting for a year and a half now through all seasons and on both road and trail. After all this I have determined that bicyclists really don't belong on the road. All we do is impede traffic, annoy drivers and contest roads. The externalities caused by on-road bike commuting are too many and the overall social effects net harm. Stay off the roads and make the world a better place.


    I only wish you'd posted this in A & S rather than here- where we are far less knee jerk in our reactions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10 Wheels View Post
    Too many cars and trucks on the road.
    Can you recommend a good Sidewalk Bike?

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    never gets flats, fender included, no brakes to wear out, no complicated drivetrain to worry about, no issues with getting chain crud on your pant leg. Legal on the sidewalk in most states. What more could you ask?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crast View Post


    never gets flats, fender included, no brakes to wear out, no complicated drivetrain to worry about, no issues with getting chain crud on your pant leg. Legal on the sidewalk in most states. What more could you ask?
    Hipster fixie garbage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack002 View Post
    Ah this is April 1, like grounhawg day, but with TROLLS instead. *yawn*
    Two of the most overused forum cliches in one post...the ubiquitous troll comment and the ever popular yawn. Congrats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10 Wheels View Post
    Too many cars and trucks on the road.
    Can you recommend a good Sidewalk Bike?

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    If it's good enough for our fine police, it should be good enough for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanwood View Post
    where else can I ride? at least half of my ride does not include a sidewalk, I would need to ride an extra 3 miles to stay off the road, and I am not willing to make that kind of a sacrifice so that the well oiled traffic machine can operate .001% better. I have nothing against the drivers on the road and I even try not to hold it against them when they do dumb stuff, but I refuse to ride extra distance making my commute longer just so that a bunch of people in their cars can get to work 1.5 seconds faster, because thats about how long it takes to pass me on the road.
    Take a bus or drive...you should be willing to do ANYTHING to be safe.
    "Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey

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    Quote Originally Posted by MIKEnDC View Post
    I think you are talking to the wrong commuter community.
    Of course you inside-the-beltway types would love to see the rest of us FREE people crushed and broken on the roadways of Amerika. Your jackboots are showing.
    "Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey

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    Quote Originally Posted by crawdaddio View Post
    Okay.
    Build me an elevated bike path above all the streets in chicago and I will use it.
    Your argument (if not a joke) is unfounded. Most cycling laws prove this.
    Plans are in the works...it's part of the stimulus package. Please do your homework before spouting off in an Internet forum. Thank you.
    "Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey

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