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Old 04-02-09, 01:31 AM   #1
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Trek 7.3 fx : 2007 vs 2008

(SEE BELOW -- MODEL/YEAR CONFUSION HAS DEEPENED)

So, I'm going to be replacing my stolen Trek 7.3 fx sometime within the next few days.

The one I had was a 2007, and I loved everything about it--including it's subtle paint scheme.

The 2008 has slightly bolder graphics that I'm not in love with (it's a pretty minimalist design, so the additional swoops and stripes and bolder, brighter logotext stand out) and seems like it might have some geometry changes. Notably, there seems to be more vertical space on the headtube between the its intersection with the top and down tubes--which also makes the welds much more prominent looking (to my eyes.) It seems the round headbadge has been replaced w/a chevron shaped badge, and some of the details are different (like the routing of the cables, which somehow looks cleaner to me on the '07.) The seatpost is different.

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Can anyone comment on the differences between the 07 and 08 models? Especially the geometry? Which looks better to you?

I have an opportunity to buy a new 08 for a reasonable price--$570--and a decent lead on a very lightly used '07 for not all that much less ($450.) I wouldn't mind going for the new bike and getting a warranty, LBS service, etc.--but I was powerfully attached to my '07, down to its looks.

Thanks for anything you can offer: information, opinions, etc.

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Old 04-02-09, 07:53 AM   #2
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Anybody? It's primarily the difference between the way the tubes come together in front that has me wondering.
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Your first link doesn't work.

After finding the picture you're referring to, it looks like the bike on trekbikes.com and the one you linked are different sizes so it's hard to say - but there are some differences. I doubt they changed the geometry much if at all, just however they manufacture that frame (which they use on several different bikes).

Personally I'd apply some pressure on the price of the used one and go that way; they're really the same bike.
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I was debating between a 2008 and 2009 TREK 3700 earlier last year and asked my LBS what the difference was and they said "Paint Job and $200", I got the 2008.

So if you have an honest LBS ask them.
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Old 04-02-09, 08:55 AM   #5
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Your first link doesn't work.
Strange, it's working for me. I think Trek archives their previous years, let me see if I can find that.

here it is:
http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/2007/archive/73fx

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After finding the picture you're referring to, it looks like the bike on trekbikes.com and the one you linked are different sizes so it's hard to say - but there are some differences. I doubt they changed the geometry much if at all, just however they manufacture that frame (which they use on several different bikes).

Personally I'd apply some pressure on the price of the used one and go that way; they're really the same bike.
I don't know about the sizes in the promo photos--I think they're both Trek stock photos. I'm not sure if I can get the used seller to come down any more.

I keep thinking that the '07 looks nicer, and I know I like its ride.

The change in the joining of the headtube to the top and down tubes isn't significant?
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I was debating between a 2008 and 2009 TREK 3700 earlier last year and asked my LBS what the difference was and they said "Paint Job and $200", I got the 2008.

So if you have an honest LBS ask them.
No one has the '09s at the moment (I don't think) and they few shops I've asked don't really know what I'm talking about in terms of the slight differences between '07 and '08. I sort of get the feeling that most of them don't think this level of bike is worthy of that much scrutiny.

Which I understand, but it's kind of a big deal to me.
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Reflecting on the above, I tried to compare 2007, '08 and '09 using the Trek archive site, which has left me confused.

Here's what their 2007 archive page shows:


Here's what their 2008 archive page shows:

The 2009 archive page is using the 2008 graphic. (links to http://www.trekbikes.com/images/bike...73fx_black.jpg , same as above)

but this is the model currently being shown on Trek's active promo site:


Note the separation at the headtube and the routing of cables along the downtube as opposed to the top tube. Changes in graphics.

Is this the '08 or the '09?

Can I just call Trek, will I be able to reach someone who will talk to me, or will they just try and deflect my questions to a LBS?
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Strange, it's working for me. I think Trek archives their previous years, let me see if I can find that.

here it is:
http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/2007/archive/73fx



I don't know about the sizes in the promo photos--I think they're both Trek stock photos. I'm not sure if I can get the used seller to come down any more.

I keep thinking that the '07 looks nicer, and I know I like its ride.

The change in the joining of the headtube to the top and down tubes isn't significant?
I had an '06 7.3fx for awhile and while I don't remember the geometry numbers off the top of my head, it doesn't look like they changed anything... With most models of bikes there won't really be changes between model years other than paint jobs and cost adjustments, so don't overthink it. I understand you were fond of your old one but in the grand scheme of things, the bikes are the same.

As far as the difference in the photos, those are almost certainly two different sizes.
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Ah, so the difference in the joining up front might be due to size differences?

You've got to be explicit w/me, I'm a little thick sometimes. ;P
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I'm no expert; I'm just guessing. If you look at the geometry chart on the Trek page, you'll see the head tube (where the steerer goes through) gets taller as the bike size goes up (true on any bike I've heard of), and so the top tube and downtube will be farther apart where they meet the head tube.

Just going by memory from my 7.3, the pictures for the 07 and 08 look like they might be the 15" frame or possibly 17.5", while the newer picture may be the 20". On the older ones the seatpost clamp is about even with the top of the rear tire while the newer one is a few inches higher. So yes, I think maybe you're getting confused looking at two different sizes.

There are still some other small differences, especially as you noted in the cable routing. I think Trek changed the frame some for the new model year, as the FX bikes I've seen in person have angular/ridged top tubes compared to round like mine had.

I'd still buy the used bike if I were you, but if you can afford it then buy whichever you like.

Edit: And the "new" picture you're showing is the 2009 model. So if your choice is between 08 and 07, it's irrelevant. For what it's worth I think my 06 was the same as the 07 and 08.
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No one has the '09s at the moment (I don't think)
My LBS does. Only ones he can't get last we talked were the new 520 and the District/Soho
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Have you been able to compare the specifications for both bikes? It seems to me that the best way to look for differences in things like the length of various parts or whether the separation at the head tube is a function of the two pictured bikes being different sizes would be to look at actual measurements for each model. The Trek website appears to have measurements for various parts of the bike for each model year and size. Click on the "geometry" tab. This will give you much more accurate information and a better means of comparing the two years than any of us can give you by looking at small photos online.

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Ah, so the difference in the joining up front might be due to size differences?
i also agree the distance between the top tube and downtube on the headtube is an indication of the headtube size; that size will go up with larger bikes. i use that to gauge the size of bikes on craigslist that dont list the size.
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Looks like I'm probably going to wind up with the '09.

My folks went ahead and arranged to put a deposit in for an order, and although I had specified an '08 when I talked to the LBS it turns out the quote was for an '09. I asked the shop to wait to put the order through until I could come in and check out the 22.5" frame they had in stock (I was never sized for the bike the first time, so why not make sure), and just now called to tell them to hold off until tomorrow as I couldn't get there today. I thought I might also take another run at the local used seller, who seemed agreeable to coming down a little but who hasn't contacted me today as arranged.

It turns out they submitted it anyway earlier today. The sales rep said "I had to order one anyway" when I asked what the deal was with the deposit, but I'm not sure that means I'm off the hook for the "special order" or whether than means I can choose between the 20" and 22.5" '09. I don't love them putting the order through when I had asked them to wait, if they expect to hold me to it--but I'm hesitant to make an issue of it, as I think they're trying to be helpful.

The sales rep said that the 2009 fx-series frames are a little lighter. If that's so, I might just swallow my preference for the older more subtle graphics and the change in cabling which makes it the front look less clean (in my opinion.) On the other hand, I'm not sure how much lighter it could really be.

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