Need some bike traffic etiquette advice.
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Need some bike traffic etiquette advice.
A few times now, I've caught up to a bike commuter and have had to stay right behind them because it was unsafe to pass. (narrow roadway/traffic). Then I've stuck right behind them because we're going the same way.
Is there something I should call out like, "I'm not passing" or "don't worry about me!"
Also, I feel like I should be saying something to fellow commuters when we're at stop lights. What do you say, if anything.
Is there something I should call out like, "I'm not passing" or "don't worry about me!"
Also, I feel like I should be saying something to fellow commuters when we're at stop lights. What do you say, if anything.
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Eh, I say don't worry about it. Just don't hang like 6 inches off his wheel. Assume that he may not know you're there and keep a safe enough distance.
As for talking to people at red lights, I usually don't. It's just not customary around here. As a ped I wouldn't normally talk to another ped waiting to cross the street unless I had a compelling reason to do so. I don't see the bike scenario as being any different.
As for talking to people at red lights, I usually don't. It's just not customary around here. As a ped I wouldn't normally talk to another ped waiting to cross the street unless I had a compelling reason to do so. I don't see the bike scenario as being any different.
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When lined up at a red light, I follow the same etiquette as when lined up facing the wall in the restroom.
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If it is someone I don't know and it is a male I hang at about 10ft, if it is a lone female I drop back at least 30-40ft to not be some weird stalker unless I can pass really soon and keep past them.
At a light/sign I'll roll up beside them but still stay behind them and if they look back I wave,nod or say hello.
At a light/sign I'll roll up beside them but still stay behind them and if they look back I wave,nod or say hello.
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If I'm behind somebody I can't pass I just keep a safe distance. The fact that I'm not passing is a given and they probably don't know I'm there anyway.
At a light I usually don't say anything but if it's somebody on like a cruiser bike or somebody I almost passed before the light and they got there first I might ask if I can go first. I especially do this at the last light before work because there's a big-ish bridge right after and I tend to climb it faster than most folks. It's not something I do very often but I've always been polite and nobody's said no.
At a light I usually don't say anything but if it's somebody on like a cruiser bike or somebody I almost passed before the light and they got there first I might ask if I can go first. I especially do this at the last light before work because there's a big-ish bridge right after and I tend to climb it faster than most folks. It's not something I do very often but I've always been polite and nobody's said no.
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I nod my head - usually to bikers going in the opposite direction. Sometimes if it is quite I might say something. I once passed a biker who was struggling up a long hill and he was close to the top but it was a blind curve so I told him he was almost there to help encourage him. I use the same etiquette as hiking. But then I don't meet too many riders on my commutes. I don't always nod my head - it depends on my posture, if I'm working hard on a hill or of they other person is avoiding eye contact because they are unsure about bike etiquette.
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I've had several different folks fall in behind me on one part of route. As long as they aren't riding up by back tire they are more then welcome to draft me.
And when we have gotten to the lights they have either just stayed in line behind me or have pulled up along side.
When they pull up along side I assume they want to go first and I'll let them, then it's my turn to draft!
And when we have gotten to the lights they have either just stayed in line behind me or have pulled up along side.
When they pull up along side I assume they want to go first and I'll let them, then it's my turn to draft!
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I nod my head - usually to bikers going in the opposite direction. Sometimes if it is quite I might say something. I once passed a biker who was struggling up a long hill and he was close to the top but it was a blind curve so I told him he was almost there to help encourage him. I use the same etiquette as hiking. But then I don't meet too many riders on my commutes. I don't always nod my head - it depends on my posture, if I'm working hard on a hill or of they other person is avoiding eye contact because they are unsure about bike etiquette.
Context and local culture matters a great deal.
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A few times now, I've caught up to a bike commuter and have had to stay right behind them because it was unsafe to pass. (narrow roadway/traffic). Then I've stuck right behind them because we're going the same way.
Is there something I should call out like, "I'm not passing" or "don't worry about me!"
Also, I feel like I should be saying something to fellow commuters when we're at stop lights. What do you say, if anything.
Is there something I should call out like, "I'm not passing" or "don't worry about me!"
Also, I feel like I should be saying something to fellow commuters when we're at stop lights. What do you say, if anything.
If you're clearly the faster rider but conditions prohibit a pass, why not back off him a little bit.
Problem solved.
As far as stoplights go, a nod and hello is appropriate. You may get something back... or not.
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mirror (and/or visually check), signal, manoeuvre and while you're waiting to pass, as tempting as drafting is, don't tailgate (you never know if they'll swerve to avoid a pot hole or need to stop suddenly)
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Don't run red lights, wear a helmet, use hand signals, get some cycle lights(front and rear) and, FFS, don't run red lights!
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Recommended reading for all cyclists - Cyclecraft - Effective Cycling
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Don't run red lights, wear a helmet, use hand signals, get some cycle lights(front and rear) and, FFS, don't run red lights!
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A few times now, I've caught up to a bike commuter and have had to stay right behind them because it was unsafe to pass. (narrow roadway/traffic). Then I've stuck right behind them because we're going the same way.
Is there something I should call out like, "I'm not passing" or "don't worry about me!"
Also, I feel like I should be saying something to fellow commuters when we're at stop lights. What do you say, if anything.
Is there something I should call out like, "I'm not passing" or "don't worry about me!"
Also, I feel like I should be saying something to fellow commuters when we're at stop lights. What do you say, if anything.
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If you can't pass them, don't crowd them.
Give them plenty of room.
What's the rush?
Give them plenty of room.
What's the rush?
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I have similar but opposite problem, slower cyclists will pass me at the red light standstill and then say something assessing at the next light like, "hey, you did pretty good" when I'm right behind them, all the time wishing they wouldn't just dodge in front of me when I'm stopped at a light, assuming I'm going to be slower. This kind of cyclist typically sprints at the green, and then slows down about 10-15% of their max speed once they are out of the gate and sit down to ride at a steady state, and I wish I could get by safely about a minute after that.
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I like pacers and follow about 50-100 ft back of males and try my darndest to catch them. If a light screws up my plan I let them get back out there and then I start chasing them down again.
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I simply hang back at a safe distance then pass them when it's safe to do so. If the person is on a folding bike (like me) I might wave, smile or say "hi" but I normally don't speak unless I feel compelled to do so. I'm normally "in the zone" when I'm riding and like to stay fixed on my objective, not idle chit-chat with a complete stranger whom I'll be passing the second a gap opens up.
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I don't want to start a battle of the sexes or anything, but I hate how being male automatically makes me a potential villain.
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At red lights I like to yell, "what the f*** you looking at" OK I don't do that but I do feel like I should say something to fellow cyclist and tend to pick out a bike part or something to complement them.
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Don't ride up on my ass like I know you because I don't. It's dangerous, not cool and way creepy so back off, and that goes for women too (although I have yet to have a woman ride up on my ass. Only dudes. Go figure. )
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On that note.. Anyone know how to ignore just one persons sig line.. er pic in their sig line *shudder*