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Kojak 04-22-09 05:20 PM

Marathon Supreme - 700x32c
 
To anyone who may be waiting on a tire order with their local bike shop, I just received confirmation that a new shipment of 700x32c Marathon Supreme tires will be arriving on May 20th. Contact your local bike shop if you need a pair (or just one). If you have any specific questions, drop me a note @ support@schwalbetires.com

Ordinarily, I wouldn't post this, but we've been frustrated at the lead times for these tires, and I can imagine anyone waiting for a pair is just as, or even more frustrated.

Thanks for reading.

gb

Wanderer 04-22-09 10:00 PM

I'm glad I stocked up on Supremes last year - they seem almost impossible to find - I'll bet you lose LOTS of sales with no product available....MHO

sonatageek 04-23-09 04:23 AM

Any word on when the 26 x 1.6 size will be available?

Kojak 04-23-09 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by sonatageek (Post 8784178)
Any word on when the 26 x 1.6 size will be available?

June 18...... : (

Kojak 04-23-09 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by Wanderer (Post 8783476)
I'm glad I stocked up on Supremes last year - they seem almost impossible to find - I'll bet you lose LOTS of sales with no product available....MHO

It's definitely not a good situation. Here's hoping that the production chiefs figure out the bottlenecks, and get them solved.

jdmitch 04-23-09 11:45 AM

Thanks for the update Kojak. There's been a lot of clamor for that size.

jeffpoulin 04-23-09 01:02 PM

I'm glad I bought my 700x32 supremes last year. Got about 4000km on them now and they're still great. I just bought a set of 700x37 marathon XRs for my touring bike. The XRs are quite nice too. Not quite as lively as the supremes, but very tough and they grip really well. I'm a little skittish about riding my supremes on dirt roads and other rough surfaces especially with a heavy load, but I have no such qualms about the XRs. Now I feel like I can ride my touring bike anywhere.

lukasz 04-24-09 05:39 PM

I ordered mine from Germany (in December!) and they arrived a few weeks ago. I am curious to see what they will cost stateside - maybe I should have ordered a few pairs :(

Btflmutant 04-24-09 07:46 PM

I just ordered some and received them 2 weeks ago from Everybicycletire.com. Love them, but amazingly got a flat within the first 100 miles!

Kojak 04-27-09 11:13 AM

[QUOTE but amazingly got a flat within the first 100 miles![/QUOTE]

Wow,.... I know anything is possible but that's really uncommon for this tire. I'm curious if you know the cause?

d2create 04-27-09 11:17 AM

They need to make some 650b tires in that width.

Banzai 04-27-09 11:23 AM

Such an effing expensive tire though!

jeffpoulin 04-27-09 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by Banzai (Post 8808787)
Such an effing expensive tire though!

Compared to what? I bought a set of cheap tires last year and flatted on my third commute. First flat I've had in 10 years of commuting. Had to change the tire in the cold rain. Cut my finger finding the piece of glass that cut right through the thick part of the tread. Was late for work too.

In contrast, my marathons (supremes and now a set of XRs) have never had a flat. The supremes have logged hundreds of commutes over broken glass and other kinds of debris. The XRs are on my touring bike and have been great too. Personally, I'll never buy cheap tires again. $70 for a tire isn't much if you don't need to replace it until the tread wears out.

JeffS 04-27-09 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by jeffpoulin (Post 8809296)
Compared to what? I bought a set of cheap tires last year and flatted on my third commute. First flat I've had in 10 years of commuting. Had to change the tire in the cold rain. Cut my finger finding the piece of glass that cut right through the thick part of the tread. Was late for work too.

In contrast, my marathons (supremes and now a set of XRs) have never had a flat. The supremes have logged hundreds of commutes over broken glass and other kinds of debris. The XRs are on my touring bike and have been great too. Personally, I'll never buy cheap tires again. $70 for a tire isn't much if you don't need to replace it until the tread wears out.


Compared to EVERY equivalent tire on the market.

I think I had two flats in the rear and a large gash in the front tire. Booted it for a while and eventually had to trash it with about 95% tread left on the front and 50% on the rear. Turned out to be a really expensive set for me.

They weren't any worse than the other tires I've run flat-wise, but they weren't any better either.

- high grip
- comfortable
- expensive
- slow

Kojak 04-27-09 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by JeffS (Post 8809651)
Compared to EVERY equivalent tire on the market.

I think I had two flats in the rear and a large gash in the front tire. Booted it for a while and eventually had to trash it with about 95% tread left on the front and 50% on the rear. Turned out to be a really expensive set for me.

They weren't any worse than the other tires I've run flat-wise, but they weren't any better either.

- high grip
- comfortable
- expensive
- slow

???

I'm generally very neutral with my posts on this board, but I'll have to take exception with this one. The compound and carcass construction of this tire dictates that it is empirically a fast tire, particularly when compared to a tire of similar size and inflation specifications. We will always have customers that have bad experiences with regard to punctures and flats; we all have bad luck occasionally. But slow? ... not this tire.

Expensive; that will always be in the eye of the beholder. Again, if one falls victim to bad luck, a good purchase becomes an expensive one instantly. Our overwhelming experience has been that the majority of our customers love these tires for their performance, endurance and puncture protection.

Shimagnolo 04-27-09 02:37 PM

So *that* explains why I had to check so many places until I found someone who had them in stock!
I just had to replace my front tire, and checked about 8 online shops before I found one.
(Sad story here: http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...=477734&page=3 )

My road bike has 28mm Gatorskins and was getting a flat about once every 6 weeks last year.

I'm running the Supremes on my touring bike, and It took 5 months to get the first flat.
It was the worst debris I've ever hit on the road. No road tire could have survived.

ok_commuter 04-27-09 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by Kojak (Post 8809831)
???

I'm generally very neutral with my posts on this board, but I'll have to take exception with this one. The compound and carcass construction of this tire dictates that it is empirically a fast tire, particularly when compared to a tire of similar size and inflation specifications. We will always have customers that have bad experiences with regard to punctures and flats; we all have bad luck occasionally. But slow? ... not this tire.

Expensive; that will always be in the eye of the beholder. Again, if one falls victim to bad luck, a good purchase becomes an expensive one instantly. Our overwhelming experience has been that the majority of our customers love these tires for their performance, endurance and puncture protection.

Agreed. I run the Marathon Supreme 35s on the same bike I often run 25mm Gatorskins on.

I don't know of an equivalent tire...

Btflmutant 04-27-09 06:23 PM

I got my flat from a sharp, little piece of metal that was "L" shaped. It got "hammered" into the tread and apparently worked its way through. I think it was a one in a million kind of thing and I don't expect any more.

JeffS 04-27-09 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by Kojak (Post 8809831)
???

I'm generally very neutral with my posts on this board, but I'll have to take exception with this one. The compound and carcass construction of this tire dictates that it is empirically a fast tire, particularly when compared to a tire of similar size and inflation specifications. We will always have customers that have bad experiences with regard to punctures and flats; we all have bad luck occasionally. But slow? ... not this tire.

Expensive; that will always be in the eye of the beholder. Again, if one falls victim to bad luck, a good purchase becomes an expensive one instantly. Our overwhelming experience has been that the majority of our customers love these tires for their performance, endurance and puncture protection.


I don't care what the numbers say. The tire is a little slow. High grip should mean higher rolling resistance. Look back through threads discussing these tires. There are a number of owners who say the same thing.

My experience with the tire doesn't effect the price. It's the most expensive tire in its class. You should know as well as anyone that a lot of your models fall in this position. It's not news to ANYONE.

I currently have:
- two bikes with fat franks
- three bikes with big apples (including my kid's balance bike)
- one bike with Ultremo
- several other Schwalbe tires hanging on the wall.

My point is that just because I have a negative comment to make doesn't mean I'm not correct, or that I have some type of anti-Schwalbe agenda.

jwbnyc 04-27-09 07:35 PM

I'm waiting on a set of these from my LBS.

They haven't popped up as in stock at the distributor yet.

Ah. May 20th.

nevermind.

JeffS 04-27-09 07:51 PM

If you're in a hurry, Peter White seems to do the best job of either having them in stock or getting them quickly.


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