Surly Cross Check question
I'm getting ready to get a CC frame and was just wondering if most folks here went down one size on their CC? I ride a 56cm Specialized Tarmac and wonder if I should get a 54cm Cross Check.
Can anyone tell me what the stand over height is on their 56cm and 54cm CC? Also, is there any place to get the Surly Cross Check frame in the Misty Gray color or are most of them gone since it was last year’s color? I don't want the beef brown color and was thinking about something different than the traditional black. Anyone know when Surly announces their new colors? |
I ride a 54cm CAAD9 and a 54cm Crosscheck.
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Originally Posted by bdcheung
(Post 8814272)
I ride a 54cm CAAD9 and a 54cm Crosscheck.
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Originally Posted by MulliganAl
(Post 8814297)
Thanks bdcheung, can you tell me what the stand over height is on your 54? How tall are you?
I don't know what the standover is but I suppose I could go downstairs and measure it. |
Not sure when they announce the new colors, but from a quick googling, looks like the 2009's were hitting the shelves in December 2008, so you have awhile to wait before anything new comes out.
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I ride a 56 Cannondale Synapse and a 56 CC. I could comfortably ride a 54 CC. It's really personal preference at that point. FYI, cycling inseam is 33.5".
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Standover is about 30.5" on my 54cm with 23c tires
(unsolicited opinion... standover is not the best way to determine appropriate frame size) |
Originally Posted by bdcheung
(Post 8814397)
Standover is about 30.5" on my 54cm with 23c tires
(unsolicited opinion... standover is not the best way to determine appropriate frame size) |
Originally Posted by MulliganAl
(Post 8814173)
I'm getting ready to get a CC frame and was just wondering if most folks here went down one size on their CC? I ride a 56cm Specialized Tarmac and wonder if I should get a 54cm Cross Check.
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I look at seat tube length first, then top tube (horizontal) length. Both are equally important in my book.
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How about contact Surly and get all your questions answered in one place. Send them an e-mail, I have in the past. They respond.
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Originally Posted by modernjess
(Post 8814945)
How about contact Surly and get all your questions answered in one place. Send them an e-mail, I have in the past. They respond.
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Cross-Checks are widely said to run one size smaller than your normal measure and I found that to be true with mine. I'm 6-1 and would ride a 60 in most similar frames but the 58 fits me perfectly in the X-C. There's no real way of knowing, though, except to ride one, which is obviously a challenge with a bike that isn't stocked in a lot of shops.
I have the grey frame. It's discontinued and my sense is it's hard to find partly because lots of people don't like the new brown and want something other than black, like you. Not long ago someone was trying to flip a new grey X-C frame on our local Craigslist for like $75 over the regular price. |
Originally Posted by GearsForFears
(Post 8815580)
I have the grey frame. It's discontinued and my sense is it's hard to find partly because lots of people don't like the new brown and want something other than black, like you. Not long ago someone was trying to flip a new grey X-C frame on our local Craigslist for like $75 over the regular price.
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Originally Posted by GearsForFears
(Post 8815580)
Cross-Checks are widely said to run one size smaller than your normal measure and I found that to be true with mine. I'm 6-1 and would ride a 60 in most similar frames but the 58 fits me perfectly in the X-C. There's no real way of knowing, though, except to ride one, which is obviously a challenge with a bike that isn't stocked in a lot of shops.
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I received a reply from the Surly rep (good customer service so far) and he suggested that I go with a 54cm in the Cross Check because the 54cm seat tube in the CC is very similar in length to the 56cm seat tube in the Specialized Tarmac.
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I know that Missoula Bicycle Works in Missoula, MT has a 54cm Misty Mtn. Grey Cross Check on their floor built up with full 105 groupset that they built up for someone that never showed back up to get it. You might give them a call if your that interested in getting a grey one.
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I ride a 56cm Trek 1500 and a 54cm Surly Cross Check. Don't have the bike here to measure the stand over but my inseam is 30 inches.
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Originally Posted by MulliganAl
(Post 8815941)
Unfortunately I missed out on a grey 54cm frame just the other day on eBay because I thought the price was too high at $360+ and I thought they could still be purchased as overstock. I guess the 54cm black frame will be the one, unless Surly announces the new colors sometime soon. Thanks for the info on your sizing.
I happen to think the brown is nice but I'm half color-blind. The original Cross-Checks were an awesome deep blue and the collapsible Travelers Check is still in that color. |
My road bikes have a 56.5 and 57 cm top tubes. Based on this I went for the closest TT that Surly offered. This translated to a 56cm x-check. So yes, I did step down. I generally ride 58 cm frames.
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Originally Posted by GearsForFears
(Post 8820126)
The original Cross-Checks were an awesome deep blue and the collapsible Travelers Check is still in that color.
On the bright side, buying a frame, you're ready to bring it right to the powder coater's should your needs be that specific. |
Standover height is NOT how you size a frame. Effective top tube (cockpit length) is.
Your first step in sizing is whether or not you can achieve the reach you desire with the top tube combined with available stems and handlebars. The next step is determining your saddle to bar drop; if you want more, take the smaller frame with the longer stem. Less? Bigger frame (usually equates to taller headtube) with a shorter stem. Try not to go less than 80mm on your stem though. Then, when all is said and done, check standover. As long as it's not just stupid then it's fine. |
Originally Posted by Banzai
(Post 8821804)
Standover height is NOT how you size a frame. Effective top tube (cockpit length) is.
Your first step in sizing is whether or not you can achieve the reach you desire with the top tube combined with available stems and handlebars. The next step is determining your saddle to bar drop; if you want more, take the smaller frame with the longer stem. Less? Bigger frame (usually equates to taller headtube) with a shorter stem. Try not to go less than 80mm on your stem though. Then, when all is said and done, check standover. As long as it's not just stupid then it's fine. Here’s what I’ve found: Tarmac 54cm 56cm Seat Tube Length, Center to Top 510mm 530mm Seat Tube Length, Center to Center 460mm 480mm Top Tube Length (Horizontal) 548mm 565mm Front Center 583mm 591mm Wheel Base 978mm 986mm Standover Height 763mm 784mm Head Tube Length 130mm 155mm Stem Length 100mm 100mm Seatpost Length 350mm 350mm Surly Cross Check 54 cm 56 cm ST (C-T)Inches/mm 20.5/520.0 21.3/540.0 TT (C-C) Inches/mm 21.5/545.0 22.0/560.0 TT (Effec.) Inches/mm 21.5/547.1 22.0/560.0 CS Length Inches/mm 16.7/425.0 16.7/425.0 S.O. Height* Inches/mm 30.6/778.4 31.2/793.0 FK Length Inches/mm 15.7/400.0 15.7/400.0 Many of these dimensions just don't seem to line up on the two bikes and two different sizes; or perhaps I'm just not reading it correctly. |
'horizontal' TT approximates 'effective' TT; the 56 CC is a 5mm shorter than 56 Tarmac, but the 54s are about equivalent.
If you're wondering how/why tube lengths do/don't line up, you would also want to look at changes in headtube or seat tube angle across sizes of each frame. |
Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg
(Post 8822457)
'horizontal' TT approximates 'effective' TT; the 56 CC is a 5mm shorter than 56 Tarmac, but the 54s are about equivalent.
If you're wondering how/why tube lengths do/don't line up, you would also want to look at changes in headtube or seat tube angle across sizes of each frame. I just don’t want to spend the money on a frame, spend the time building it up (this will be my first build so it may take me a while, kinda’ of a hobby/labor of love) then find it doesn’t fit properly. |
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