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Old 05-13-09, 09:02 AM   #1
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Alternatives to take-a-look mirror?

I am looking for an eyeglass mounted mirror with the following requirements:

1) Not be made of metal
2) Modifiable to work in both right-hand and left-hand drive countries

My take-a-look sort of meets the second requirement, but it is a pain to twist it out of shape for that.
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Maybe this?

http://www.cycleaware.com/index.php?...&products_id=2

I might add that I use a Cycleaware on the helmet when I'm not wearing glasses. On the glasses, it's always the Take A Look, best mirror out there.
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I use a Third Eye Pro mirror and like it a lot. They make an eyeglass mounted mirror, too. Nylon clip and mirror frame, reversable mount.
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I am looking for an eyeglass mounted mirror with the following requirements:

1) Not be made of metal
2) Modifiable to work in both right-hand and left-hand drive countries

My take-a-look sort of meets the second requirement, but it is a pain to twist it out of shape for that.
Out of interest, why #1? Every plastic mount I've seen makes me think I'm spending $15 for a week or two of use before the mount breaks.
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Out of interest, why #1? Every plastic mount I've seen makes me think I'm spending $15 for a week or two of use before the mount breaks.
I've seen some people voice concern over the Take a Look mirror and the damage it might cause in a crash (sharp corners, metal wire next to your face, etc.)
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I've seen some people voice concern over the Take a Look mirror and the damage it might cause in a crash (sharp corners, metal wire next to your face, etc.)
Ah, makes sense. I guess since I never crash and never will I didn't think of that...
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I use the Take a look mirror, attached to the visor on my helmet. i expect that in the event of a crash the mirror would fall off in the confusion,as opposed to going in my eye. I could be wrong--- I have been wrong before.
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The Third Eye meets you requirements. I used them for several for years, but have now switched to take-a-look because of breakage of the plastic parts.
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Every so often, I do think about the possibility of having my face torn up by my Take-a-Look after reading about it happening to one of the posters here.

I wonder if some small diameter clear silicone tubing that has been cut only through one side and wrapped around the edges of a Take-a-Look might offer enough protection to minimize that risk?
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I think the version I came up with is good yet wire arm is metal (per your concerns, duke_of_hazard). The flexible temple piece will allow the mirror to rotate away from face in a fall... at least that's was in my mind when designing it.

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I think the version I came up with is good yet wire arm is metal (per your concerns, duke_of_hazard). The flexible temple piece will allow the mirror to rotate away from face in a fall... at least that's was in my mind when designing it.

you designed that? Wow, trés bien!
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I use the Take a look mirror, attached to the visor on my helmet. i expect that in the event of a crash the mirror would fall off in the confusion,as opposed to going in my eye. I could be wrong--- I have been wrong before.
I can post photos of facial stitches that show that a Take-A-Look can easily lead to over a dozen stitches. But I don't think you want to see it.
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I can post photos of facial stitches that show that a Take-A-Look can easily lead to over a dozen stitches. But I don't think you want to see it.
In all fairness, I'm sure you run the same risk of being cut up wearing sunglasses or even nothing at all... it all depends on the particulars of how you wreck.
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you designed that? Wow, trés bien!
Merci beaucoup, DanBraden. Your comment is very much appreciated.
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In all fairness, I'm sure you run the same risk of being cut up wearing sunglasses or even nothing at all... it all depends on the particulars of how you wreck.
I doubt that the risk of being cut by something with fairly sharp, square corners and no break-away is "the same" as being cut by either nothing or by the Cycleaware reflex that I use now, which has all rounded corners, has no rigid wire, has a support covered with thick rubber and is mounted on a pop-away ball mount.

I sustained a serious gouge to my cheek from the mirror. There was no way for my cheek to have come in contact with anything else; my chin and upper lip hit the pavement, as did my helmet, but my cheek up near my eye couldn't possibly have touched pavement without first breaking my jaw and half my teeth.

If that's "the same risk" then it's a very wide definition of "the same".

Really, I've found the take-a-look and the Cycleaware Reflex to be totally equivalent mirrors when it comes to using them, and the Reflex is clearly safer, so I don't know why so many people go to such lengths to defend the Take-A-Look.
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If one goes to such lengths to attack something, surely one can expect people to go through such lengths to defend in kind. It's just the way it is
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I doubt that the risk of being cut by something with fairly sharp, square corners and no break-away is "the same" as being cut by either nothing or by the Cycleaware reflex that I use now, which has all rounded corners, has no rigid wire, has a support covered with thick rubber and is mounted on a pop-away ball mount.

I sustained a serious gouge to my cheek from the mirror. There was no way for my cheek to have come in contact with anything else; my chin and upper lip hit the pavement, as did my helmet, but my cheek up near my eye couldn't possibly have touched pavement without first breaking my jaw and half my teeth.

If that's "the same risk" then it's a very wide definition of "the same".

Really, I've found the take-a-look and the Cycleaware Reflex to be totally equivalent mirrors when it comes to using them, and the Reflex is clearly safer, so I don't know why so many people go to such lengths to defend the Take-A-Look.
Relax; I'm not defending the Take-A-Look at all. I have absolutely zero interest in what mirror anyone uses. Injuries happen to lots of people, and because someone has been injured using a particular product doesn't make it dangerous.

We can obsess over what sort of accident may result in what sort of injury due to what sort of cycling product, but what's the point of arguing over anecdotal evidence? Obviously, everyone should use whatever they want and evaluate the risks for themselves.
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ItsJustMe, My sympathy to you on the whole ordeal you went through, are going through. I've followed your story for sometime. I have awake nightmares about someone injuring themselves on the mirror I have produced.

Do you have any comment on whether my mirror (photo above) would be better, the same, worse, or no way to predict... in event of a fall?

If you don't mind.

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I've found the take-a-look and the Cycleaware Reflex to be totally equivalent mirrors when it comes to using them,
So, how do you mount the Cycleware Reflex mirror on you glasses? The only information I found on the Web was for a helmet mirror. That certainly is not equivalent to the Take-a-look mirror i use mounted on my glasses.

Maybe Google missed the Cycleware glasses mounted Reflex. I'm certainly open to an equivalent glasses mounted mirror that could be saver.
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So, how do you mount the Cycleware Reflex mirror on you glasses? The only information I found on the Web was for a helmet mirror. That certainly is not equivalent to the Take-a-look mirror i use mounted on my glasses.

Maybe Google missed the Cycleware glasses mounted Reflex. I'm certainly open to an equivalent glasses mounted mirror that could be saver.
You're right, it does not mount on glasses. I wasn't using the take-a-look on my glasses, so I spoke a little too quickly there. My glasses have round arms and the take-a-look simply spins around and won't stay still on them. When I wear glasses that they will stay put on, I tend to forget them because I take the mirror off of the glasses when I get home/work, then forget to put them on when I go out again.

Since I never get on the bike without my helmet, and the mirror on the helmet is exactly the same as the mirror on my glasses, and the mirror can stay on my helmet forever, that's a better solution for me.
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ItsJustMe, My sympathy to you on the whole ordeal you went through, are going through. I've followed your story for sometime. I have awake nightmares about someone injuring themselves on the mirror I have produced.

Do you have any comment on whether my mirror (photo above) would be better, the same, worse, or no way to predict... in event of a fall?

If you don't mind.

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Looks better to me ASSUMING that mirror is acrylic, not glass. My injury was from the edge of the mirror being pushed into my face by the pavement.

The wire makes me nervous but that wire looks a lot less stiff than that on the take-a-look. The brass tube on the take-a-look could probably be shoved right through the skull if hit right.
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Looks better to me ASSUMING that mirror is acrylic, not glass.
It is glass yet recessed and glued in the plastic housing. Possibly since it is small (1/2"), round and encapsulated, it could be safer. I needed glass for optical clarity since it is so compact.

ItsJustMe, I can imagine that any wire in front, or to the side, of your face must make you nervous now. Again, so sorry for your injury. All of us here have to empathize though we can't begin to understand your pain. Thanks for your opinion on this safety aspect of my mirror and the cycling mirrors already mentioned.
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you designed that? Wow, trés bien!
This kind of DIY mirror has been around for a long long time. The other bike rider in my office uses an old homebrew one just like that and it's almost identical to the M2Racer mirrors I have.
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This kind of DIY mirror has been around for a long long time. The other bike rider in my office uses an old homebrew one just like that and it's almost identical to the M2Racer mirrors I have.
Oh.... you've seen this before??? Trés bien!
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ItsJustMe, I can imagine that any wire in front, or to the side, of your face must make you nervous now. Again, so sorry for your injury. All of us here have to empathize though we can't begin to understand your pain. Thanks for your opinion on this safety aspect of my mirror and the cycling mirrors already mentioned.
It didn't hurt that bad, it was just a cut and about 12 stitches. I didn't even bother with anasthetic (I was getting hungry and they told me it would add 30 minutes to my ER stay to wait for anasthetic to work). It does worry me that a piece of stiff wire in an accident might do anything, and my eye is right there. Stiff plastic would be as bad I think. Cycleaware's use of gumby wire (flexible metal wire covered with rubber) seems about as safe as it's likely to get.
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