bugly64

I am moving to Wyoming in August. I know the winters aren't a laughing matter there. This is also another good reason to add another Surly to my stable. What do y'all think? Or should I just put studded tires on my CC.

JoeyBike

I think you should by MY Pugsley!

I moved away from an area where I had use for it. I will post the specs right here in a day or two in case you decide to get one.

-Joey

tompt

Put studded tires on your CC. The 700x40 Nokians fit great with fenders, and are a lot more fun on everything except fresh deep snow.

bugly64

You think that Pug will be available by the time I get to Wy?

Tompt, you aren't supposed to talk fellow BFer's out of buying new bikes.

HardyWeinberg

That's when you need the pug. The pug excels on any kind of snow. On ice you're no better off than anyone else w/o studs although if the ice is ripply enough the wide tires at low pressure can still deform over enough of it to give you some at least illusion of traction.

There are 2 optimal (optimizing hyper-gearhead-ism, that is) routes to go here: pug w/ interchangeable wheelsets, large marge/endos for snow and 29er rims w/ 700x40 studdeds for cleared snow, or pug w/ large marge/endos for snow and cc w/ studs for clear but slippery roads.

In practice whenever it snows here enough to commute on my pug, school is closed so I'm home w/ the kids anyway. Then I just go for early am or late pm rides just for fun.



which is not to say you can't ride it year-round anyway:

JoeyBike

I am not advertising it, so it should be available. Probably wait until you get settled in too. I have been thinking of using it at the beach but a decent beach is 90 minutes from my house by car. It just never seems to happen.

Just shoot me a PM about it if you get serious.

Cheers!

filtersweep

I am not convinced going wider is the answer on snow, since I tend to float on the snow and cannot get any traction (usually going up hill) when running wide knobbies. I could see the Pugsley being great on sand, and maybe even mud. Studs don't help much in snow, but are magic on ice. Of course riding anything without studs on ice is a recipe to meet the ground.

unterhausen

I used to use narrow tires in snow and it worked pretty well. Except for 2 days in one winter where there was hard snow on top of soft snow.

JoeyBike

Just a note some may not be aware of. The tires can be run at 5 psi.

dwr1961

Bugly - If you are going to Warren, get some advice from the CO Front Range commuters that live in Denver, Boulder, Ft. Collins, etc... They may be able to give you a better idea of what bikes/tires might work best for you.

Cheyenne is not typical of most of WY... More like CO.

Jeffbeerman2

If you can afford a bike like that i'd get one.

A lot of the MTB trails around here are super-sandy and a Pugs would be more ideal than my current off road bike.

Pugs would give a big hug to both snow and sand. Studs are for ice and it's a pain to have a "special" set of tires for winter riding.

Buy Pugs, and I'll just pretend that I'm as awesome as you are

AsanaCycles

It's a Pug's Life

Kimmitt 

Wow.

bugly64

Can I use all my XT stuff off my Kona Blast on this pug? I have the hollow tech cranks, xt hubs 6 bolt disc, xt hydraulic disc brakes and rotors, f/r xt deraileurs. Isn't the bb on a pugsley bigger than a normal mtb bb?

bugly64

what's an E-type front derailleur?

kuan

Your answer is a pair of cross country skis. Actually two pairs. One pair of "rock" skis and one pair of good skis.

JoeyBike

Mounts to the bottom bracket instead of clamping to the seat tube.

https://bicyclesportshop.com/images/l...m660e_09_m.jpg

JoeyBike

He needs those also!

JoeyBike

Just put together some photos of my Pugs:

https://www.vimeo.com/5284243

HardyWeinberg

really in the snow I'm only ever on the 22t ring so that or igh makes a lot of sense.

bugly64

You meant 100mm bottom bracket, right?

https://www.surlybikes.com/pugsley.html

TwoShort

Assuming that's true and you'll be in an environment like Boulder, then for practicality I'd recommend a clunker mtb with studs for the couple weeks in the spring & fall you can't ride skinny tires, because that's what works for me.

On the other hand, if your relationship to practicality is like mine and your budget is better... get the pugsly; because dude, that bike is frackin awesome. It's the monster truck of bicycles. If you see someone else on something that looks like a more appropriate commuter and have second thoughts, your reservations will evaporate when you ride over them.

bugly64

TwoShort,
I agree with your second paragraph. I am really looking forward to building it in anticipation of some snow rides.

HardyWeinberg

There you go. My wife bought in on the pug when I dropped any pretense of rationality.

JoeyBike

HaHa! My wife and I have an agreement. She never talks about bikes and I never talk about shoes.