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    I know it's been hashed out before. I really don't understand. I've been commuting now for 31 years. I've been commuting at this place for 12 years. Once again I had someone complain about my bike being at my cubicle.

    For the longest time it was just me that commuted to my work. Now there are two of us. THAT was the stupid comment. "So what if everyone wanted to ride their bikes to work? It would look bad".

    We are a company that promotes sustainability and lowering the carbon footprint. Go figure. WTF?

    So, now I'm looking at some type of locker. I think there might be quite a few choices. I was actually looking at some of the small vertical sheds people use for rakes and stuff. Lowes and Home Depot have small Rubbermaid vertical sheds that are cheap and lockable. I think I can stand my bike on the back tire and hook my front wheel on a hook. It will also give me a place to put my bike clothes.

    Just curious, anyone tried that? I did a search on the forums and found out most of us have to MAKE SOMETHING WORK as far as finding a safe place for our bikes.

    And here I thought this issue would get better instead of worse (because of the economy).

    One more obsicle. Good grief.

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    If everyone rode their bikes to work it would look AWESOME! Especially at a place like you work, I'd think they would encourage conspicuous use of bicycles.

    This is one reason I might like a bigger cubicle. Mine is 6x7 feet so with the L shaped desk I only have about 3 x 5 feet of room. It's fine for me to work in but no room for a bike.

    At my place, if they gave me hassles about it, I'd park my bike in the middle of a parking space, and since I usually show up before anyone else, it'd be a very close parking space. If anyone touched my bike I'd either call security and cause trouble, or at least the next day there'd be a big heavy object in the space for me to lock to.

    Wouldn't work for most people but A) I can just put my bike in a spot in the parking lot and be sure it wouldn't be stolen in this area, and B) I can afford to make a little noise around work and not worry about my job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jharte View Post
    I know it's been hashed out before. I really don't understand. I've been commuting now for 31 years. I've been commuting at this place for 12 years. Once again I had someone complain about my bike being at my cubicle.

    For the longest time it was just me that commuted to my work. Now there are two of us. THAT was the stupid comment. "So what if everyone wanted to ride their bikes to work? It would look bad".

    We are a company that promotes sustainability and lowering the carbon footprint. Go figure. WTF?

    So, now I'm looking at some type of locker. I think there might be quite a few choices. I was actually looking at some of the small vertical sheds people use for rakes and stuff. Lowes and Home Depot have small Rubbermaid vertical sheds that are cheap and lockable. I think I can stand my bike on the back tire and hook my front wheel on a hook. It will also give me a place to put my bike clothes.

    Just curious, anyone tried that? I did a search on the forums and found out most of us have to MAKE SOMETHING WORK as far as finding a safe place for our bikes.

    And here I thought this issue would get better instead of worse (because of the economy).

    One more obsicle. Good grief.

    Jerry H.
    I recall a similar thread a few monts ago. The one suggestion that comes to mind and was seriously discussed is to buy a hunk-a-junk car or van, leave it parked, and lock your bike in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jharte View Post
    I know it's been hashed out before. I really don't understand. I've been commuting now for 31 years. I've been commuting at this place for 12 years. Once again I had someone complain about my bike being at my cubicle.

    For the longest time it was just me that commuted to my work. Now there are two of us. THAT was the stupid comment. "So what if everyone wanted to ride their bikes to work? It would look bad".

    We are a company that promotes sustainability and lowering the carbon footprint. Go figure. WTF?

    So, now I'm looking at some type of locker. I think there might be quite a few choices. I was actually looking at some of the small vertical sheds people use for rakes and stuff. Lowes and Home Depot have small Rubbermaid vertical sheds that are cheap and lockable. I think I can stand my bike on the back tire and hook my front wheel on a hook. It will also give me a place to put my bike clothes.

    Just curious, anyone tried that? I did a search on the forums and found out most of us have to MAKE SOMETHING WORK as far as finding a safe place for our bikes.

    And here I thought this issue would get better instead of worse (because of the economy).

    One more obsicle. Good grief.

    Jerry H.
    I work at a "green" company too and when a lot of people started riding and sticking bikes in their cubes the reaction was to set aside some out of the way space in the office for bike parking.

    Have you tried taking to management yet about alternatives for your bike?

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    The only person who's ever said anything to me about parking my bike in my cubicle is my coworker - and I kindly pointed out the weeks worth of dirty dishes he always leaves on his desk that attract insects and he promptly closed his mouth.

    My boss doesn't care that I park my bike there, and on other floors and within other research groups here a lot of people do the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jharte View Post
    I know it's been hashed out before. I really don't understand. I've been commuting now for 31 years. I've been commuting at this place for 12 years. Once again I had someone complain about my bike being at my cubicle.

    For the longest time it was just me that commuted to my work. Now there are two of us. THAT was the stupid comment. "So what if everyone wanted to ride their bikes to work? It would look bad".

    We are a company that promotes sustainability and lowering the carbon footprint. Go figure. WTF?
    Who was it that complained? Was it a supervisor or a manager? I would politely ask if there is someplace else to park your bike, pointing out that you are indeed reducing the carbon footprint. If it's a coworker, perhaps ask management for help resolving the "problem."

    I asked my boss if I could park my bike in a utility closet, and he said sure. I warned him that certain coworkers would complain when they had to go in there (which is seldom), and he said they weren't happy unless they had something to complain about. When the inevitable whining started, he brushed it off.

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    Shouldn't your office have bike parking area with secure racks? it really depends on the office culture. Sure every organization these days want to "reduce carbon footprint" and Green everything. But in actuality, bringing in a greasy dirt crusted bike in a formal office is taboo. There is no real code against it unless it blocks fire exits etc... Again depends on office culture.
    My office promotes bike parking. We have racks in our own underground car park. So there's no real reason to bring bikes into our cubicles when other riders park theirs at the designated racks. Also it is a formal office environment. Besides I often have small meetings in my cube that a bike in there would just decrease the limited real estate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jharte View Post
    I know it's been hashed out before. I really don't understand. I've been commuting now for 31 years. I've been commuting at this place for 12 years. Once again I had someone complain about my bike being at my cubicle.
    So, was this person someone whose opinion you really need to care about? Is this someone who has authority over the facility, complaining over some perceived problem? Is this someone with some other kind of authority complaining about something else like "unprofessional environment" or who knows what? Is this just someone with too much time on their hands and not enough real problems to bellyache about?

    I wouldn't go solving the problem until I knew more about what problem I was trying to solve.
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    if he's a co-worker who's not your superviser, blow it off. it doesn't matter.
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    As to the question of the rubbermaid containers, you just need to pay attention to the dimension, especially the width. Most of those sheds top out at around 24" deep, which might be problematic with MTB bars.

    However, a bigger consideration is price. The larger ones that would fit your bike are around $300-500. I think I would just forgo a storage shed and buy myself a nice folding bike to stash under my desk.

    The other consideration is security. I have one of the smaller sheds, and I don't think I would want to rely on one to hold my bike (and whatnot) securely. Pretty easy to pop the joints off the base and the top and then the whole thing pretty much collapses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jharte View Post
    "So what if everyone wanted to ride their bikes to work? It would look bad".

    Well, if everyone rode a bike the company would provide adequate bike parking - so this wouldn't be an issue.


    I'm sure they think they're making their point, but that's the easiest setup question there is - along the lines of "what if everyone drove a car to work"... where would we put them all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsJustMe View Post
    If everyone rode their bikes to work it would look AWESOME! Especially at a place like you work, I'd think they would encourage conspicuous use of bicycles.

    This is one reason I might like a bigger cubicle. Mine is 6x7 feet so with the L shaped desk I only have about 3 x 5 feet of room. It's fine for me to work in but no room for a bike.

    At my place, if they gave me hassles about it, I'd park my bike in the middle of a parking space, and since I usually show up before anyone else, it'd be a very close parking space. If anyone touched my bike I'd either call security and cause trouble, or at least the next day there'd be a big heavy object in the space for me to lock to.

    Wouldn't work for most people but A) I can just put my bike in a spot in the parking lot and be sure it wouldn't be stolen in this area, and B) I can afford to make a little noise around work and not worry about my job.

    Yeah, but productivity would suffer. I'd be looking at all the nice rides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjspiel View Post
    I work at a "green" company too and when a lot of people started riding and sticking bikes in their cubes the reaction was to set aside some out of the way space in the office for bike parking.

    Have you tried taking to management yet about alternatives for your bike?
    I'm actually working on that today. I've been looking at some vertical sheds, horizontal storage units (like the ones people use for pool supplies) and just about any other storage unit that might work. Some of the 'bike lockers' are nice but get a little pricey.

    If/when I do come up with a solution, I'll post it here with pics. Maybe I can help other companies make the transition a little easier.

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    Make your company pay for it. If they have a problem with it, they should offer you a solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wunderkind View Post
    Shouldn't your office have bike parking area with secure racks? it really depends on the office culture. Sure every organization these days want to "reduce carbon footprint" and Green everything. But in actuality, bringing in a greasy dirt crusted bike in a formal office is taboo. There is no real code against it unless it blocks fire exits etc... Again depends on office culture.
    My office promotes bike parking. We have racks in our own underground car park. So there's no real reason to bring bikes into our cubicles when other riders park theirs at the designated racks. Also it is a formal office environment. Besides I often have small meetings in my cube that a bike in there would just decrease the limited real estate.
    This IS the issue. Our company officers and directors teach and preach carbon footprint and sustainability and reducing landfill waste but it hasn't gotten to a CULTURE level yet. I'm a crusader. I also teach carbon footprint and sustainability. But like all of us in this forum, we don't just talk the talk. We ride the ride!

    I'll come up with something that is acceptable here to 'most' and take some pics. I'm on a mission! And I certainly won't stop riding my bike!

    Jerry H

    BTW, it was a co-worker that complained. She just happens to be the daughter of the VP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jharte View Post
    "So what if everyone wanted to ride their bikes to work? It would look bad".
    If everyone rode their bike to work,there would be more bicycle parking infrastructure!

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    well since its the daughter of the VP, better to spend a few hundred dollars than get fired from a stable job, especially now!

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    Marry her. Problem solved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jharte View Post
    This IS the issue. Our company officers and directors teach and preach carbon footprint and sustainability and reducing landfill waste but it hasn't gotten to a CULTURE level yet. I'm a crusader. I also teach carbon footprint and sustainability. But like all of us in this forum, we don't just talk the talk. We ride the ride!

    I'll come up with something that is acceptable here to 'most' and take some pics. I'm on a mission! And I certainly won't stop riding my bike!

    Jerry H

    BTW, it was a co-worker that complained. She just happens to be the daughter of the VP.
    consider bike lockers... that way the bikes are out of the way, the company maintains a green image and the co-worker is snubbed.

    If it is declared that there is no "public space" for bike lockers, suggest that one parking space in the garage be dedicated to bike lockers.

    Attack this from a green perspective and don't take no for an answer.

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    I vote: Ignore her.

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    Daughter of the VP? dang. Politics being what they are, I would take it seriously, then. Let us know what you figure out.
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    Daughters can be annoying....I have one, I should know.
    This, of course, doesn't mean that he'll defer to her.

    Perhaps having the rubbermade storage unit right next to your cubicle...it sounds more like a cosmetic issue with her than space.
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    Marry her. Problem solved.
    Good answer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jharte View Post
    This IS the issue. Our company officers and directors teach and preach carbon footprint and sustainability and reducing landfill waste but it hasn't gotten to a CULTURE level yet. I'm a crusader. I also teach carbon footprint and sustainability. But like all of us in this forum, we don't just talk the talk. We ride the ride!

    I'll come up with something that is acceptable here to 'most' and take some pics. I'm on a mission! And I certainly won't stop riding my bike!

    Jerry H

    BTW, it was a co-worker that complained. She just happens to be the daughter of the VP.
    Is this one of the VP's preaching carbon footprint and sustainability and reducing landfill waste? I'd have a nice chat with the VP and see what can be worked out.

    I work at a company that doesn't give a rat's ass about carbon footprint, etc. The former CTO/Founder used to commute to the office in Oakland from Lake Tahoe by Citation Jet! (Talk about carbon footprint! Thats more like carbon monster truck track.) The company still provides bike lockers and I can bring the bike in without hassles if I have too.
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