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    Help me flip a coin, friends,

    between Bontrager Hard Case and All-Condition Armadillo Elite, size 700x28.

    Three factors are nearly equally important:

    1. Puncture resistance - I commute through some pretty gritty neighbourhoods.
    2. Ease of mounting - see #1.
    3. Wet traction performance and cornering.

    AFAIK, Bonts do not come with Kevlar bead and my current tires do - so I am addicted to easy mounting.

    I am very light Athena, working on leaving the ranks, my noble steed is a cyclotank, commute is 30 mi RT at average speed 15-16 mph.

    Crossposting to Road and cyclocross forums with some forum-specific tweaks.

    Thank you

    SF

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    I ran armadillos for a while. Slow, dead feeling tire. I hated that tire.

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    I flipped a quarter twice (really). The first time I got heads while the second time I got an eagle. I don't know how this helps with tires though .

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    I had Bontrager Invert Hard Case on the Trek 7.3FX I used to have.... Blech, what an awful awful tire.

    Constructive advice: Continental Ultra Gatorskins come in 700x28.

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    Get one of each; one for each wheel.


    Buy either set, ride them into the ground and then buy the other set, and then you will know which one YOU like better.
    Last edited by CB HI; 09-05-09 at 04:32 PM.

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    I've used both and in that size too.

    I found the Armadillos to be harsh-riding and slippery when wet.

    My primary commuter came stock with the Race Lite HardCase in 28mm. (The Invert HardCase mentioned above are a completely different tire.) I don't like the two-color tread, but they ride and handle fine, even in the wet. They roll well and I've had no troubles with flats either. Right now I have 8,000 miles on the front with no flats (and plenty of tread life remaining) and 4,000 miles between flats on the rear.

    And I too ride through some pretty gritty neighborhoods, given I both live and work in the city.

    As for Gatorskins, I have those in 25mm on my other bike and like them very much. No flats in 4,000 miles.

    How easily they mount is of no consequence when they don't go flat. I have no trouble with either the Bonty's or the Gatorskins, although others do. Probably rim differences.
    Last edited by tsl; 09-05-09 at 07:12 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsl View Post
    I've used both and in that size too.

    I found the Armadillos to be harsh-riding and slippery when wet.

    My primary commuter came stock with the Race Lite HardCase in 28mm. (The Invert HardCase mentioned above are a completely different tire.) I don't like the two-color tread, but they ride and handle fine, even in the wet. They roll well and I've had no troubles with flats either. Right now I have 8,000 miles on the front with no flats (and plenty of tread life remaining) and 4,000 miles between flats on the rear.

    And I too ride through some pretty gritty neighborhoods, given I both live and work in the city.

    As for Gatorskins, I have those in 25mm on my other bike and like them very much. No flats in 4,000 miles.
    I wasn't sure to which Hard Case the OP might be referring, so I threw caution to the wind and posted away. Frankly the Inverts were bad enough that just the mention of "Hard Case" gives me the willies. Gatorskins though... awesome. Not too pricey either.

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    I understand the ride criticisms for the armadillos. I hit a fair amount of broken glass on my route. Can't really control that. These tires allow me to do that flat free. Worth it in my opinion.
    Oh, so they have internet on computers now!

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