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    Schwinnasaur Schwinnsta's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by rekmeyata View Post
    I'm sorry but from what I know about my brakes that isn't true, so I had to do some research to find the answer, I think I have it here: http://sheldonbrown.com/canti-trad.html And here: www.sutherlandsbicycle.com/Chapter11.pdf‎ (you have to look this up since I can't post a PDF file, but see chapter 11 page 11
    You need to quote what ever from these sources. I did look at them and found nothing counter. You, yourself can understand this and in so doing will need no outside source. Your not changing the brakes or the cantilever distance or the force or pull in the main vertical cable. It is true that the tension in the straddle cable increases as the cable sides become horizontal and lessens as it set more vertical. However the vertical uplift component of that tensile force does not change.

    It is very inexpensive to make a longer straddle cable and see if there is any increase in pull. Empirical method always trumps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schwinnsta View Post
    You need to quote what ever from these sources. I did look at them and found nothing counter. You, yourself can understand this and in so doing will need no outside source. Your not changing the brakes or the cantilever distance or the force or pull in the main vertical cable. It is true that the tension in the straddle cable increases as the cable sides become horizontal and lessens as it set more vertical. However the vertical uplift component of that tensile force does not change.

    It is very inexpensive to make a longer straddle cable and see if there is any increase in pull. Empirical method always trumps.
    I know I was having some, howbeit minor issues with the amount of force it took to get my Canti's to stop when applied hard, so after failing at trying to tweak them myself since I never had canti's before so I took it down to the bike shop. They replaced the cables with modern slicker internals, adjusted and lubed the brakes (which I did do), and replaced the straddle cable and explained why just as those sites I listed with the next size smaller, and now they work great and I still have room for larger tires and fenders.

    BUT, after reading your info again the OP can try a longer cable and see what happens, they're cheap and if it works then great and if not so what? he's out $5? no big deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
    That bike is extremely cool...love the bars, design - everything.
    Here's a shot taken in the wild:

    GRAVELBIKE.COM - ride everything

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    Just finished building my Cross Check PMR. I even have a nice set of VO aluminum fenders to add. I will install them if we ever get any rain out here in California.


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    I really like that, Brennan. And if I lived in Oakland, I wouldn't install fenders. Rain isn't that common there, is it?
    Please email me rather than sending me a private message. My address is noglider@pobox.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by noglider View Post
    I really like that, Brennan. And if I lived in Oakland, I wouldn't install fenders. Rain isn't that common there, is it?
    Thanks noglider! Rain is definitely a seasonal thing here. Late spring all the way to late autumn is generally pretty dry. The bulk of our rainfall comes in winter/early spring, and we can get a lot of it during that period. So, I would view fenders as a seasonal item to install/remove twice a year (like snow tires). However, this year's "rainy season" has been the driest in recent memory. The governor officially announced a drought yesterday, so they will start making adjustments to their water management and they are asking residents to reduce use by 20%. The weather has been great for riding (clear and 70-75F this week) but I'm really, really hoping we get a late rally of rainfall long enough to get me to install those fenders!

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    It's been unusually dry here in Portland as well... dry and cold.

    Well- cold for Portland anyway, which of course is still balmy by Rocky Mountain standards.

    Here's a snapshot of my 'PMR' at the builders (TiCycles), my (now refurbished) 650b Panasonic:

    Restoration 02 At TiCycles.jpg

    I'm deeply honored that Dave Levy chose to do the brazing himself rather than delegate it to one of his apprentices.

    Next: paint. Then I get to build a wheelset for it; if I can find a pair in nice shape, I'm thinking maybe Shimano 6400 hubs.
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    My Surly LHT Build.

    Velo Orange pedals, fenders.
    Brooks saddle, bar wrap, toe straps.
    Carradice saddle bag.

    All done myself.

    Get the bike and then build as you can afford. This was all done over 2 years, little by little. Most of the fun is in wanting and dreaming. I could'nt imagine having the same emotional ties to my bike if I rolled out of a shop with it complete like it is.
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    My preferences in bicycles has changed considerably in the last few months. I started out preferring agile bikes but with more experience I've come to prefer bikes with more stability. The first step in that direction was a 1995 Trek 820 MTB that I picked up at a pawn shop. Now, the 80's Takara Highlander that I found on Craigslist, along with several test rides on Surly's Karate Monkey and Troll, have convinced me that stable MTB handling is what I actually prefer in a bike.

    My Takara is at the LBS right now getting overhauled and a new chain. I've spent some time riding it as a single-speed (no derailleur cables) and it's an absolute blast to ride. It makes me feel like a kid again. I had moved somewhat away from my awe of RBW's bikes but knowing that stability and a smooth rides are the most consistent comments I hear about them, my interest is growing once more.

    I've also discovered that I really like 26" wheels with 55mm smooth tires. This would steer me back to RBW's Atlantis model. I would like to find out more about the Specialized model that vaultbrad posted higher up on the page. That bike looks remarkably similar in geometry to the Atlantis it's something I might be able to pick up relatively inexpensively.

    Here's the bike that is leading me on a path back toward a Riv'ish bike:

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    Currently riding a 2013 Handsome Devil custom build and an 80's Takara Highlander (MTB built in the style of an 82-84 Stumpjumper).

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    That's a classy setup, Berlun. Can I ask what kind of saddle-bag holder you have supporting your Carradice? It seems like it is doing a good job of keeping the bag off your wheel, something I've had some issues with on my own ride (I have a Carradice nelson bag).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclotourist View Post
    That's a classy setup, Berlun. Can I ask what kind of saddle-bag holder you have supporting your Carradice? It seems like it is doing a good job of keeping the bag off your wheel, something I've had some issues with on my own ride (I have a Carradice nelson bag).
    Thank you cyclo. Believe it or not, I merely went to the home depot hardware section and purchased a 3 foot length of small round rod and bent it into the shape I needed. Actually I bent to the exact shape as the ones for sale. I picked up two wire clamps and clamped it to the seat frame wire. Less than 7 bucks total. It's lasted over 2, 000 miles so far. I don't mind spending money, but some things in this industry are just over priced for what they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by berlun View Post
    Thank you cyclo. Believe it or not, I merely went to the home depot hardware section and purchased a 3 foot length of small round rod and bent it into the shape I needed. Actually I bent to the exact shape as the ones for sale. I picked up two wire clamps and clamped it to the seat frame wire. Less than 7 bucks total. It's lasted over 2, 000 miles so far. I don't mind spending money, but some things in this industry are just over priced for what they are.
    If it is not too much to ask, would you be willing to show a few close ups of your bag rack?

    I'm intrigued....
    Just one of those dirty pinko commies some people worry about.

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