Slicks on MTB fast as Road bike?
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Slicks on MTB fast as Road bike?
If I put some slick tires on my Trek 800 can I expect similar speed as a road bicycle for commuting purposes? I figure the decreased rolling resistance will help alot.
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A mountain bike is still going to be heavier than a true roadie, so it'll be slower on starts, and the gearing and weight will also keep your top speed down. Slicks on MTBs are usually still lower pressure than a road bike, so will have more resistance to overcome. If there's any suspension, that's again adding extra weight and an energy suck.
A mountain bike with slicks is probably more in line with a touring bike, or possibly a cross bike, but again, the gearing is still different, and any suspension will reduce the speed.
A mountain bike with slicks is probably more in line with a touring bike, or possibly a cross bike, but again, the gearing is still different, and any suspension will reduce the speed.
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You'll be faster, but not as fast as a road bike. Mainly due to the more aero position that a road bike puts you in versus the upright position of a mountain bike.
I have four different kinds of bikes. My average speed increases about 2 mph between each bike:
Knobby tired mountain bike: 14 mph avg or less.
Smooth tired hybrid: 16 mph avg.
Road bike: 18 mph avg.
TT bike: 20+ mph avg.
I have four different kinds of bikes. My average speed increases about 2 mph between each bike:
Knobby tired mountain bike: 14 mph avg or less.
Smooth tired hybrid: 16 mph avg.
Road bike: 18 mph avg.
TT bike: 20+ mph avg.
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The answer is no, it will be faster than it was but not nearly as fast as a road bike or even a cyclcross bike. I have all three types and have answered that question for myself, the answer is no, not even close.
I get almost exactly the same results as Tundra man above, a 2mph increase from:
mtb with knobbies -----> mtb bike with slicks ------> cyclecross with smooth center tires -----> roadbike on 25mm Conti GP40000 tires.
Yeah, I go from a sustainable 8 to 10 mph to a sustainable 16 to maybe 18 mph (unloaded).
I get almost exactly the same results as Tundra man above, a 2mph increase from:
mtb with knobbies -----> mtb bike with slicks ------> cyclecross with smooth center tires -----> roadbike on 25mm Conti GP40000 tires.
Yeah, I go from a sustainable 8 to 10 mph to a sustainable 16 to maybe 18 mph (unloaded).
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I've been doing my 10-mile commute in about 35 minutes on my road bike (23mm slicks), but this morning on my MTB with 1.5" semi-slicks, it took 44 minutes. There were other factors that slowed me down, but even if all else was equal, a proper road bike is definitely faster for me. That said, I've never tried 23mm slicks on my MTB. That would look silly.
Gearing I think is less relevant, isn't it? Unless you can spin out in top gear on your MTB, there's still a full range of gears. The differences between gears may be greater on a MTB cassette, so maybe there's a few seconds lost here and there with less smooth transitions, but I'm not sure that different gearing will make as much difference as tires, weight, posture, pedals, etc. I actually have road gears on my MTB now, and don't find they make me any faster. I just put them on so that the difference between gears is less jarring.
Gearing I think is less relevant, isn't it? Unless you can spin out in top gear on your MTB, there's still a full range of gears. The differences between gears may be greater on a MTB cassette, so maybe there's a few seconds lost here and there with less smooth transitions, but I'm not sure that different gearing will make as much difference as tires, weight, posture, pedals, etc. I actually have road gears on my MTB now, and don't find they make me any faster. I just put them on so that the difference between gears is less jarring.
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Not all road bikes and MTBs are created equal. In a race if I had a choice between a 40 lb. Schwinn Varsity and lightweight, rigid framed MTB designed for racing that had street tires on it, I'd take the MTB. I know people who've bought 30 year old, low end 10 speeds to do a triathlon when they may have had a better bike already sitting in the garage.
If the idea is to shave time off your commute, the shorter the distance and the more intersections you have to deal with, the less difference it will make as far as which bike you choose. If your commute is lengthy with more significant open stretches, then the differences from one bike to the next will become more pronounced.
If you just like riding a fast, responsive bike, then a road bike can be a lot of fun regardless of distance.
If the idea is to shave time off your commute, the shorter the distance and the more intersections you have to deal with, the less difference it will make as far as which bike you choose. If your commute is lengthy with more significant open stretches, then the differences from one bike to the next will become more pronounced.
If you just like riding a fast, responsive bike, then a road bike can be a lot of fun regardless of distance.
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Gearing I think is less relevant, isn't it? Unless you can spin out in top gear on your MTB, there's still a full range of gears. The differences between gears may be greater on a MTB cassette, so maybe there's a few seconds lost here and there with less smooth transitions, but I'm not sure that different gearing will make as much difference as tires, weight, posture, pedals, etc. I actually have road gears on my MTB now, and don't find they make me any faster.
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Or the lack of rack/fender mounts?
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With road slicks on the MTB the wheel diameter might be closer to 24.5" but that is still a 98" high gear and 29 MPH at a cadence of 100 or 23+ MPH at a cadence of 80. A cadence of 80 should be obtainable by virtually any cyclist and a cadence of 100 is readily obtainable with a bit of practice.
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Agree with the above posts, it won't be as fast as a road bike, but it will make a big difference in your commute. I used to ride a mountain bike to work & can still remember when I wore out my original tires & switched to slicks, it was like Christmas. If the Trek 800 is going to remain your main commuter, there are few things that will make as big of a difference in speed/$ as adding slicks.
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I'll let you know tomorrow. I have a Schwinn MTB (2000 Frontier). Over the long weekend, i switched from 26x1.95 knobbies to 26x1.25 slicks. On tomorrow's commute i fully expect an enjoyable experience. It's a heavy bike, with mountain gearing, so i'll have to get back to you. Also, i went from 45 psi on the old tires to 80 psi on the new (psi range is 65-100 so i might experiment).
For the record, i'm not really looking to add speed, just hoping for an easier ride when it comes to resistance.
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For the record, i'm not really looking to add speed, just hoping for an easier ride when it comes to resistance.
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Thanks for all the replies. I do not want to commute on my road bike because leaving it locked to a rack for an extended period of time is not something I am comfortable with.
Any suggestions on tires? I have heard that its a mistake to cheap out on tires.
Any suggestions on tires? I have heard that its a mistake to cheap out on tires.
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Gearing I think is less relevant, isn't it? Unless you can spin out in top gear on your MTB, there's still a full range of gears. The differences between gears may be greater on a MTB cassette, so maybe there's a few seconds lost here and there with less smooth transitions, but I'm not sure that different gearing will make as much difference as tires, weight, posture, pedals, etc. I actually have road gears on my MTB now, and don't find they make me any faster. I just put them on so that the difference between gears is less jarring.
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Not sure I understand what you're saying. Lots of road bikes have rack and fender mounts. High end racing bikes typically don't but they're only a subset of all road bikes. Between my wife and I we've owned 4 different road bikes in the last few years and everyone of them has had rack and fender mounts including my Specialized Allez (though that only has rack mounts).
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On a commute, where you're not bombing from one set of traffic lights to the next, and in rush hour traffic, I'm guessing your speed will be pretty similar to a road bike. Ultimately, rb will be faster due to it's more aggressive geo but for a commute, doubt it'd make a bunch of difference.