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Old 08-29-10, 05:08 AM   #1
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Do you wear a helmet on your commute?

Lets not talk about why you do or don't, or anything about helmets. There are plenty of links to read about that.

Just answer yes or no please. This is for your commute, not riding in a race, or riding 50mph downhill, or riding through the mountains, etc. On your commute, no mater how short or long it is. Do you wear a helmet?

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Old 08-29-10, 06:04 AM   #2
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Usually, unless it is like 30 some degrees and I want to wear a stocking hat instead. I know there are helmet-compatible solutions however I usually quit commuting around November so there aren't too many days of that.
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Old 08-29-10, 06:18 AM   #3
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yes. primarily because it makes a good mount for my third eye mirror. i am extremely uncomfortable without the mirror in any sort of traffic.
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yes. primarily because it makes a good mount for my third eye mirror. i am extremely uncomfortable without the mirror in any sort of traffic.
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In traffic yes...with mirror.
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yes. primarily because it makes a good mount for my third eye mirror. i am extremely uncomfortable without the mirror in any sort of traffic.
FWIW, I use the third eye eyeglasses mirror (and I agree! I hate riding without it!). This, of course, is useless if you don't wear eyeglasses or sunglasses.
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On my 12 mile commute, yes.
If I decide to ride down the street at lunch to grab a sammich, which is literally about 1 or 2 blocks long, no.
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Not like this info couldn't be gleaned from the countless other helmet threads, and I'm sure this one will degrade like all the ones before it.

But the answer is "always" since it's not if you're going to have an accident, it's when.
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Lets not talk about why you do or don't, or anything about helmets. There are plenty of links to read about that.

Just answer yes or no please. This is for your commute, not riding in a race, or riding 50mph downhill, or riding through the mountains, etc. On your commute, no mater how short or long it is. Do you wear a helmet?

Thanks.
Sorry, I'm not really good at being told how to respond. 'Yes' or 'no' will not do.
As for your question, I wear my helmet while commuting - sometimes. It depends on my mood, the weather and which way I'm traveling that day.

Besides, I had all the cycling accidents I'll ever have before I was 20. I was reckless, stupid and unaware back then and had enough mishaps and crashes to sustain a crowd of people. I EMBODIED the statistics you read about.
And I survived by some miracle without a helmet, - since we didn't have them - so I am allowed the freedom from being hammered into wearing one by today's 'safety crowd.'

You younger folks who have been inured to the "helmet safety net" are NOT allowed the same choice, however. Put that helmet on, dang-nabbit, for your own good!

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This forum supports polls if you want yes an no answers.

Yes
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Yes.

But yeah, use a poll. And even better, refrain from posting any new helmet threads, LOL
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Always wear a helmet. The mirror is so nice to have as well.

The more time you are on the bike, the higher the probability of an injury. Especially for those of us with long commutes, it's only a matter of time before it happens although I do all I can to try and prevent it.

As for the people saying helmets are for the safety nazis... I have had a lot of head injuries over the years... sure the first few don't matter, but the more you get the longer they take to heal and the residual sides effects start to creep in. It doesn't make sense not to. Many of the results of brain injuries don't show until later in life as well so you don't really know it's damaged until it's too late and the brain doesn't really heal itself well, if at all.

Sorry for the rant, but some of us resisted helmets in sports (for whatever reasons) in general for too long and are paying the price for it now. Whether the freedom crowd, I don't like being told to do stuff crowd, like it or not, the helmet is not that much of an inconvenience and it's worth it.
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Yes and the one time I didn't for my short 2 mile commute I crashed. So now I make damned sure I wear it all the time.
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Yes.

But yeah, use a poll. And even better, refrain from posting any new helmet threads, LOL
More helmet threads!
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Yup, my commute involves about two pretty fast roads and 2 miles of an offroad trail where I've wiped out about half dozen times
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Lets not talk about why you do or don't, or anything about helmets...
Good luck with that. If you don't want a discussion on helmets, you shouldn't post a thread about them.

If you're interested in usage rates, they can be found, and if you're interested in only those who'll respond to a post here, you should be aware the results may not be reflective of helmet use in general.

I'd imagine the majority of bikeforums.net posters wear one, but that might not reflect the general population or different subsets of other cyclists.

It seems a straightforward question but I'm not too sure it is. Some people wear helmets on commutes sometimes but not others. Are they in, or are they out? I've worn a helmet on 95% of my commutes but I don't wear a helmet on my commute anymore.

On which side of the ledger does that fall?

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Always wear a helmet. The mirror is so nice to have as well.

The more time you are on the bike, the higher the probability of an injury. Especially for those of us with long commutes, it's only a matter of time before it happens although I do all I can to try and prevent it.

As for the people saying helmets are for the safety nazis... I have had a lot of head injuries over the years... sure the first few don't matter, but the more you get the longer they take to heal and the residual sides effects start to creep in. It doesn't make sense not to. Many of the results of brain injuries don't show until later in life as well so you don't really know it's damaged until it's too late and the brain doesn't really heal itself well, if at all.

Sorry for the rant, but some of us resisted helmets in sports (for whatever reasons) in general for too long and are paying the price for it now. Whether the freedom crowd, I don't like being told to do stuff crowd, like it or not, the helmet is not that much of an inconvenience and it's worth it.
Ranting is cool. I like to know what a person believes.
Now here are a few bits of information for you... something to chew on, as it were.

First, understand that you cant legislate against stupidity. Many, many cycling injuries are the result not of unwitting accidents, but of people doing stupid things. A surprising number of reported injuries are the direct result of intoxication, poor practices, hazardous conditions, or young men around the age of 15 acting stupidly (as they are wont to do). Unfortunately, laws are passed based on no more than that. Again, you cant fix stupid; although we try over and over.

The injury statistics from the federal government and the CDC also support some rather shocking numbers: there are something like Fifteen injuries per MILLION miles ridden on bicycles in this country! And the CDC says that only one-third of injuries are head-related at all, i.e. according to the CDC, only a third of those bicycle injuries are head injuries, so the rate of injury that a helmet might help with is only FIVE injuries per million miles, (which is essentially the same as taking a walk!). For fatalities, well... they don't even become whole numbers until five million miles have been surpassed! ...

You are nearly twice as likely to be killed by a horse, six times more likely to drown, 100 times more likely to die of pneumonia or the flu, than to be killed while riding a bicycle ( and this makes no mention of death from falling, or suffocation, which are higher... only lightning strikes and skiing deaths come in lower than bicycling.)


There are two important points to take away from all this talk of fatality and injury rates:
  1. On a per-mile basis, the odds of being killed or sustaining a serious head injury while riding a bicycle are about the same as the odds of being killed or injured while out for a walk.
  2. On a per-capita basis, the odds of being killed while riding a bicycle are nearly the same as the odds of being killed by a bolt of lightning; the odds of sustaining a serious head injury while riding a bicycle are about half the odds of sustaining a serious injury while out for a walk. and a side point...
  3. BONUS POINT: Being drunk really screws up your ability to do anything right.
Helmets save lives? Well, sure, occasionally they do. There are always a few freak accidents....Biking is no more dangerous than taking the dog for a walk, and often even safer. We wonder what walking helmets will cost?"

It might also interest one to know that the helmets I've seen all carry a disclaimer stating they will not prevent injury, at all, and that safety is dependent on the user. So what does that say?

Ive always thought it interesting that normally logical people will flock like lemmings to Las Vegas, for the chance to fling they and their money into the sea of gambling offered there... with odds against them winning big as large as the sea itself.
Then, when these same people get home, having fallen afoul of the odds, they insist the rest of us MUST wear a marginally effective helmet... based on similarly oceanic odds of injury.

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Always wear a helmet. The mirror is so nice to have as well.
As I pointed out earlier, you don't need a helmet to have a mirror, even a head-mounted one.

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The more time you are on the bike, the higher the probability of an injury. Especially for those of us with long commutes, it's only a matter of time before it happens although I do all I can to try and prevent it.
... which can be said of any mode of transportation.

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For you. Why are you so sure that what's good for you must be good for everyone else, too? The cost vs benefit is not the same for everyone.

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Sorry for the rant, but some of us resisted helmets in sports (for whatever reasons) in general for too long and are paying the price for it now.
With all due respect, I think the probability of hitting your head regularly playing football is a lot higher than hitting your head regularly commuting by bike. One is an activity with the expectation of some contact - one is simply traveling from point A to point B.

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Whether the freedom crowd, I don't like being told to do stuff crowd, like it or not, the helmet is not that much of an inconvenience and it's worth it.
Thanks, Dad, glad you're here to tell me what's what. Again, why do you think that everyone and their situations are so similar that what is best for you must be best for everyone?

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I earn a living by using my brain, and I must be presentable when I arrive, so the answer is no.
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