Originally Posted by CptjohnC
As with most, this isn't a simple question; Sometimes the shoulder is fine. Sometimes it is so full of detritus, that regardless of width it isn't wise to stay right of the line.
And every once in a rare while I take to grass or sidewalks... on purpose.
Where I live, shoulders are so rare that they don't seem to accumulate much debris; but when I have them, I use them, as drivers here are mouth-breathers with myopia.
There are streets here, as well, where taking to the road is near-suicidal... mostly in the ghetto, where I live. A half-mile from my driveway is the most dangerous street in the city for a bike -- 2 lanes, no shoulders, and ABSOLUTELY NO CARE FOR ANOTHER PERSON'S EXISTENCE, WHETHER 2-WHEELED OR 4! (Maybe it's the subwoofers -- they may cause brain damage.... it DOES seem that the louder the stereo, the lower the IQ) Some people who live on that road actually think they're still outside the city, just because this road was outside the city 50 years ago.
Main-artery roads here are deadly; secondaries are sweet, and residential areas are kid-friendly... for the most part.
EDIT: When I say "deadly", I refer to cars passing a cyclist so closely, the cyclist can reach in the car and take a drink from the console; maybe a bit of hyperbole, but not much.... That, to me, is recklessness, and endangering me, just because 'you' as a driver can't move over or wait three f'n seconds. There HAVE been cyclists killed here in just those circumstances! (Four in the last five years....)
Last edited by DX-MAN; 09-01-10 at 07:02 AM.