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    Get new Cyclecross or fnagle fenders on current bike.

    I have a dilemia. Nashbar has a really good deal on a Mongoose Cyclecross Here is the link: I think they are also offering a coupon for 20% off. So, I may be able to get it for around $400.

    http://www.nashbar.com/webapp/wcs/st...olt@parker.com

    The main reason I would like this is I can put full fenders and a hard mounted rack. On my current bike , Giant OCR Aluminum. It has the bladed front forks. So I could put the full fenders on the front, with some zip ties and the reach arounds at the top, but on the back, there is barely clearance for the tires to fit. I could only put fenders on it up to where the back brake is. I would still get the water ad debris that would fly to the drivetrain. Also, during the winter, there comes a point that the shifters stop working because of the cold.

    Also, the Giant has the Ultegra / 105 mix. Mostly Ultegra, except for brakes / shifters. So, I was thinking that the cyclecross bike could be a good winter bike, but how reliable in general would the component group be related to Ultegra grade that I have. Will I be doing more maintenance / repairs because the bike is an overall cheaper bike?


    Or, would it be better to just rig the Giant with the full fenders as best I can and just deal with the debris?

    Any suggesions would be appreciated.
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    I also have a third option. I have an 02 or 03, stumpjumer hard tail that I could convert to a commuter. I would have to replace the stem as it is slightly big for me. I have fenders for mtb. Also, I forgot to mention that my work reimburses $300 / a year for fitness equipment. They will pay for a bike, new / used, or fitness equipment. So, it amounts to about $150 - $175 after taxes. Also, my commute is 17 - 20 miles each way. Depending on whether I take the quickest route or the safest.

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    Nothing at all wrong with Tiagra.

    I have bikes that are full Sora, 105/Ultegra mix and Ultegra/Dura-Ace mix. They all shift just fine, run quietly, and are reliable.

    If anything, in winter the 9-speed is an advantage over 10-speed since the replacement chains are a whole lot cheaper. Winter is tough on chains. On the other hand, it means keeping spares in stock for both 9 and 10-speed.
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    If you're talking about a 35 to 40 mile commute, I think the cross bike would be a lot more comfortable than the Stumpjumer.
    Don't believe everything you think.

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    Well my 3 bikes are all 9 speed. It makes it easy for chains. I just keep an extra on on hand at all times.

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    The only other question I have is on the brifters. Do all makes of brifters end up not shifting after a certain temp, or is is just the ones that I have?

    If this is the case, I may want to go with my stumpjumer as the shifters on it do not freeze.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gholt View Post
    The only other question I have is on the brifters. Do all makes of brifters end up not shifting after a certain temp, or is is just the ones that I have?

    If this is the case, I may want to go with my stumpjumer as the shifters on it do not freeze.
    I was using lowly Soras on my winter bike last year. They never froze up. The front derailleur was a different story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gholt View Post
    Do all makes of brifters end up not shifting after a certain temp, or is is just the ones that I have?
    I've never had a problem. (Shimano 8-speed R-500s, 10-speed 105s, and 9-speed Ultegras)
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    If you opt to fit your current bike with fenders, this is an option:

    http://rivercitybicycles.com/sitesea...SiteSearch.y=9

    Aside from that, I'm all for the (n)+1 philosophy on bike ownership.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kojak View Post
    If you opt to fit your current bike with fenders, this is an option:

    http://rivercitybicycles.com/sitesea...SiteSearch.y=9

    Aside from that, I'm all for the (n)+1 philosophy on bike ownership.
    I bought those about 2 or so years ago and haven't bothered to put them on yet. I have the full fenders and such. So, this year I am going to put them on, or get a new bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsl View Post
    I've never had a problem. (Shimano 8-speed R-500s, 10-speed 105s, and 9-speed Ultegras)
    Quote Originally Posted by tjspiel View Post
    I was using lowly Soras on my winter bike last year. They never froze up. The front derailleur was a different story.
    So, I have had this happen with two different sets of brifters. one on a Tiagra and another on on a 105. It seems after the temp dips into the 30f or below, they do not shift down. I can shift up, but when I need to shift down, I have to keep shifting the lefer for about 10 - 15 minutes before the shifter wants to cooperate. Any suggestions, as to why this would be the cases. I add a spray lube every so often so they have plenty of lubrication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gholt View Post
    So, I have had this happen with two different sets of brifters. one on a Tiagra and another on on a 105. It seems after the temp dips into the 30f or below, they do not shift down. I can shift up, but when I need to shift down, I have to keep shifting the lefer for about 10 - 15 minutes before the shifter wants to cooperate. Any suggestions, as to why this would be the cases. I add a spray lube every so often so they have plenty of lubrication.
    I've ridden in temps well below 0 F and never had this problem. I have had cables freeze near the derailleurs and it tends to happen when temps dip below freezing after riding in slushy/wet weather. They loosen up after a bit. Make sure you're lubing the cables.

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    Doesn't look like those nashbar bikes are going to be available until after the sale ends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjspiel View Post
    I've ridden in temps well below 0 F and never had this problem. I have had cables freeze near the derailleurs and it tends to happen when temps dip below freezing after riding in slushy/wet weather. They loosen up after a bit. Make sure you're lubing the cables.
    Its always been the shifter. I could never hear or feel it click to the next gear. So, I would move it back and forth for about 10 min and eventually, I think, it would warm up and I could shift down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by himespau View Post
    Doesn't look like those nashbar bikes are going to be available until after the sale ends.
    It shows up in the cart with the discount. I think I can pre order it at the sale price and not have to pay for it for another month. It could be worth a try.

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    Not sure why everything's Tiagra except the FD that is 2200 (and the brakes, crankset and cassette, which are a mish mash as is sort of to be expected). Also wish they told you a weight, but if you want it, seems like a rather inexpensive way to go.

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    40 miles is a hell of a commute, especially in winter.

    I'd want something with drop bars and proper full fenders if I were going to tackle it. Not sure how much snow you get, but if it is anything like Chicago, there will be a lot of days when it is just not worth the risk of falling down and getting run over, or just getting run over.

    The grit you're thinking of ignoring: where would it go? Would it mostly land in harmless areas or is it going to mess up the front derailleur? It will for sure mess up your chain and sprockets.

    I was thinking about winter commuting, but to me, it is just not going to be worth the risk of getting run over. Our streets out here don't have sidewalks, the shoulders are gravel, and they plow the snow onto them anyway. My commute would be about a mile each way, but still not worth the risk.

    Forget the fenders and look for a beater car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gholt View Post
    Its always been the shifter. I could never hear or feel it click to the next gear. So, I would move it back and forth for about 10 min and eventually, I think, it would warm up and I could shift down.
    So, any ideas what would cause a brifter to do this after a certain temp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeremyZ View Post
    40 miles is a hell of a commute, especially in winter.

    I'd want something with drop bars and proper full fenders if I were going to tackle it. Not sure how much snow you get, but if it is anything like Chicago, there will be a lot of days when it is just not worth the risk of falling down and getting run over, or just getting run over.

    The grit you're thinking of ignoring: where would it go? Would it mostly land in harmless areas or is it going to mess up the front derailleur? It will for sure mess up your chain and sprockets.

    I was thinking about winter commuting, but to me, it is just not going to be worth the risk of getting run over. Our streets out here don't have sidewalks, the shoulders are gravel, and they plow the snow onto them anyway. My commute would be about a mile each way, but still not worth the risk.

    Forget the fenders and look for a beater car.
    Alot of the days are like this. When it's snowing or too icy out, I don't go, but when it is dry and just cold. It is not too bad. They sand / not salt the roads and once it is dry, then it is OK to ride. The route I take is country roads. So, I normally don't ride in the shoulder. I ride mainly where the right tire of a car would be. So, I'm real cautious during the winter. A lot of the time, I end up on the trainer at night for 1:30 hrs. Not as much fun, but it is what it is.

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